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posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 01:17 PM
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Originally posted by Vitchilo

FED EXPECTS TO MAINTAIN `HIGHLY ACCOMMODATIVE' MONETARY POLICY
FED SEES `EXCEPTIONALLY LOW' RATES THROUGH AT LEAST LATE 2014
FED TO KEEP REINVESTING HOUSING DEBT INTO MORTGAGE SECURITIES
FED SAYS INFLATION `SUBDUED'
FED SAYS HOUSING `REMAINS DEPRESSED'
FED REITERATES `SIGNIFICANT DOWNSIDE RISKS'


No QE3 yet.

The interest on US bonds just collapsed.
10YR

This is good... for deficit spending. 3 trillion deficits, yes we can! Seriously, the nutjobs in Washington DC think that the interest on the debt will NEVER go back up.
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They will make it so it will never go up. we will be like japan with its own bank buying 95% of japans debt. We are now at the point of infinite operation twist. Infinite operation twist will devalue the dollar as much as the yen is and create a race to the bottom




posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 02:43 PM
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Martin Armstrong latest: Not long but effective...

www.martinarmstrong.org...


The recent incident with Senator Paul being detained by TSA guards who specialize in harassing 6 year old little girls, is just the tip of the iceberg. The American tourist Trade has suffered a loss of $600 billion and should exceed $1 trillion very soon – the entire cost of the Iraq War. So while our Backroom Bureaucratic Dictatorship cannot sleep at night unless a TSA guard looks under your bed at night, they are systematically destroying the economy and world trade. Those 19 guys and a camel accomplished more than taking down the World Trade Center – they discovered the real way to destroy Western economies – unleash the Backroom Bureaucratic Dictatorship and they will take down society faster than Superman.
Three Stooges Law of Diminishing Government Competence boils down to this; all you have to do is smack the guy in charge, and he will smack the others. What no standing army was ever able to accomplish, those 19 guys and a camel have in a single act, destroyed all LIBERTY and set in motion the Decline & Fall of the Western Economy and Civilization. Numerous countries now fingerprint world travelers. This is having a very serious impact the same as protectionism of the 1930s. Teenage girls that dreamed about visiting Disneyland have to be interviewed by a US Embassy before they will be granted a visa. They have single-handedly wiped out the tourist trade and that was just the beginning. Business travel has been reduced. Commerce is slowing internationally or being diverted to more friendly nations. The Backroom Bureaucratic Dictatorship has succeeded in accomplishing its goal – to keep track of everyone just in case they may be up to something. This East German “Papers Please” attitude that has become the hallmark of the USA, is pretty much saying – get the hell out and stay out!



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 01:43 PM
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The US senate failed to block Obama's debt ceiling raise... 52 to 48... aw. Would have been epic.


And yet another ``stimulus`` fail...
Taxpayers Lose Another $118.5 Million As Next Obama Stimulus Pet Project Files For Bankruptcy



posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 08:03 AM
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So while our corporate dictatorship government claims we have not money and American peoples have to deal with austerity on their own, they have millions of tax payer dollars to waste and abuse, no only paying out fail ventures but also giving away billions in the EU to keep the corrupted banking system in the US from collapsing if the EU collapse.

And people still doesn't get it.


The corruption going on in our government is exuding from every orifice in our nations financial deals and people are still blind to it.


But that is ok as per latest poll regarding Obama's administration, most Americans are now happy with the state of the economy
but just a few weeks ago, more than half of the population were dissatisfied with the government overall.

Is nice when you can manipulate data to make yourself look peachy.
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posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 07:29 PM
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The US Senate approved another debt ceiling raise, but it was just a show vote according to Judge Napolitano. When needed the ceiling can be raised, how scary of a thought is that???? How far can it go before things come to a head? I can't see the entitlement class ever rising up unless their benefits are cut. I ask myself often what will it take for 3/4th of the US to say enough.

I would mention Europe and the down grades but it is too depressing....



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 03:54 AM
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Indonesia revokes gold mining permit amid violence


Indonesia on Saturday revoked a gold mining exploration permit granted to an Australian miner following a series of violent protests against the project left two dead last month, reports said. The decision came after thousands of people on Thursday demonstrated in the city of Bima on Sumbawa Island


1 mine lesser in gold production.



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posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 04:07 AM
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Debt limit...


Endgame Begins - UK "Foreign Office Sources Say Merkel Now Thinks Greece Will Default"

Well duh.

The Silent Anschluss: Germany Formally Requests That Greece Hand Over Its Fiscal Independence

It was tried previously (several times) under "slightly different" circumstances, and failed. Yet when it comes to taking over a country without spilling even one drop of blood, and converting its citizens into debt slaves, Germany's Merkel may have just succeeded where so many of her predecessors failed. According to a Reuters exclusive, "Germany is pushing for Greece to relinquish control over its budget policy to European institutions [ZH: read ze Germans] as part of discussions over a second rescue package, a European source told Reuters on Friday." Reuters add: "There are internal discussions within the Euro group and proposals, one of which comes from Germany, on how to constructively treat country aid programs that are continuously off track, whether this can simply be ignored or whether we say that's enough,"

Update: Formal Greek annexation order attached.

Update 2: the first local headlines are coming in now, from Spiegel: Griechenland soll Kontrolle über Haushalt abgeben (loosely Greece must give up domestic control), and Kathimerini: Germany proposes Greece relinquish some fiscal powers, sources say


All heil the fourth reich!


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posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 10:45 AM
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Well occurs is going to be easy for Hail Merkel to do that, isn't that the reason the EU pushed a puppet technocrat to run Greece? without democratic process and against the Greece people right to vote.

Well, this is what is all about it.



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 11:27 PM
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www.bbc.co.uk...

Greeks reject German plan for EU budget commissioner



And I thought they were going to accept



posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 02:05 AM
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Martin Armstrong


The number one question pouring in is about the banks and their profit margin. Yes, the bottom line remains that the cost of money declines sharply for depositors while the cost of borrowing rises. Where the value of cash for three years is 0.7% to a depositor, for a fully collateralized borrower, the cost is about 4%. This is a profit margin for the banks of 571%. In other words, when the discount rate was 17% in 1981, this would have been the equivalent of a prime rate at 9707%. The profit margin at banks has NEVER been so high. The Fed has increased the profit margins of banks but they in turn are not accommodating the economy. They require more stringent collateral today than at any time in the past and want ZERO risk failing to stimulate anything. Have a brokerage account? Ask the broker how much he will lend you against fully collateralized shares. You will quickly see that the profit margins are EXTRAORDINARILY high for no risk at all! This is becoming a giant shell game whereby everyone THINKS the objective is to “stimulate” the economy, but in reality, it is bailing out the banks once again covertly by allowing their profit margins to increase dramatically. Therefore, lower interest rates only widen the spreads increasing profits to the banks while the economy fails to expand significantly. It has not led to a borrowing boom in the slightest – essential for inflation.


www.martinarmstrong.org...

If I understand this correctly, the economy has become simply "banking economy". They don't seem to care about anything else at all



posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 08:45 AM
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They will take it eventually, why? because its just a show to appease the population, but when a population is suffering economically like the Greeks are, the next bailout to "help" the Greek economy will come with attachments and one of those is the proposed monitoring of their economy by outside forces, the people will either accept to it or suffer, this is a done deal.



posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 12:02 PM
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It's Official: German Economy Minister Demands Surrender Of Greek Budget Policy, Says It Is First Of Many Such Sovereign "Requests"

Philipp Roesler became the first German cabinet member to openly endorse a proposal for Greece to surrender budget control after Reuters quoted a European source on Friday as saying Berlin wants Athens to give up budget control."

A government source in Berlin said Germany's proposal was aimed not just at Greece but also at other struggling euro zone members that receive aid and are unable to make good on their obligations.

All hail the Fourth Reich!

Germany is controlled by the bankers once again. Hopefully it doesn't end like in the 30s.



posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 12:58 PM
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The Report That Will Blow Up The Eurozone


In Holland, where I'll be for a few more days, there's a "rogue" right-wing party named PVV (Party for Freedom). It has no cabinet ministers, but the minority moderate right-wing government needs its support to stay in the saddle. The PVV, like other European right-wingers, is, among many other things, against much of what the European Union stands for. It's certainly against the Euro, and the bailouts with Dutch taxpayer money of countries like Greece and Portugal.

A few months ago, the PVV announced they had commissioned a report from British financial consultancy firm Lombard Street Research on the economic consequences of staying in the Eurozone versus returning to the guilder.

That report is about to be published "within days". It will prove to be highly explosive material. And the PVV will do all it possibly can to make sure it receives a lot of media attention.



posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 07:45 PM
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Renegade slave - how horribly accusing that sounds


This is becoming more and more a Roman Empire situation with lots of renegade gladiators refusing to fight for their masters' profits. Totally renegade!



posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 08:35 AM
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Hong Kong to start yuan based silver bar trade this year



www.bullionstreet.com...


After launching the first yaun-denominated gold bar trading in October last year, Hong Kong's Chinese Gold & Silver Exchange Society said it also plans yuan-denominated silver market.

According to Haywood Cheung Tak-hay, president of CGSE, the launch will be on the second half of this year as a lot of preparatory work needed to be done as silver market is more volatile than gold.

He said he expects daily transaction of gold in the city's gold exchange to increase 30% in the next two years, boosted by yuan-denominated gold products. Gold transactions on the exchange currently exceed HK$50 billion each day.



posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 11:42 AM
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They just stopped! Is this what we will be seeing in the Euro-zone as things decline?


Spain's fourth-largest airline Spanair has collapsed, leaving more than 20,000 passengers stranded across Europe and Africa. The Barcelona-based firm stopped operating on Friday and more than 200 flights were abruptly cancelled. The Spanish government is taking legal action and said Spanair could be fined 9m euros (£7.6m; $11.9m) over the collapse. In 2010, Spanair reported an operating loss of 115m euros. The collapse comes after Qatar Airways stopped takeover talks, ending the prospect of further financing, and also reflects weak demand for air travel in Spain.


www.bbc.co.uk...

The Spanish Gov't is suing a company that is operating at a loss and has collapsed?



posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 12:13 PM
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This Is Europe's Scariest Chart

Some may be surprised to learn that while Portugal, and Greece, are quite bad, at 30.7% and 46.6% respectively, it is Spain where the youth unemployment pain is most acute: at 51.4%, more than half of the youth eligible for work does not have a job!

51% youth unemployment...



posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 12:44 PM
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Originally posted by AuntB
They just stopped! Is this what we will be seeing in the Euro-zone as things decline?


Spain's fourth-largest airline Spanair has collapsed, leaving more than 20,000 passengers stranded across Europe and Africa. The Barcelona-based firm stopped operating on Friday and more than 200 flights were abruptly cancelled. The Spanish government is taking legal action and said Spanair could be fined 9m euros (£7.6m; $11.9m) over the collapse. In 2010, Spanair reported an operating loss of 115m euros. The collapse comes after Qatar Airways stopped takeover talks, ending the prospect of further financing, and also reflects weak demand for air travel in Spain.


www.bbc.co.uk...

The Spanish Gov't is suing a company that is operating at a loss and has collapsed?


Thanks for the link AuntB! I just got done talking to my future wife about going to europe on are honeymoon. She wants to go and doesn’t understand that Europe is imploding right now. I told her before I even knew of this article that airlines could go bankrupt and we could get stranded. Her friend then chimed in and said “well whats the big deal, you already have the return ticket home so they would have to fly you home.” ….WOW I then face palmed myself and walked away.


I just sent her the link now.



posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by AuntB
They just stopped! Is this what we will be seeing in the Euro-zone as things decline?


Spain's fourth-largest airline Spanair has collapsed, leaving more than 20,000 passengers stranded across Europe and Africa. The Barcelona-based firm stopped operating on Friday and more than 200 flights were abruptly cancelled. The Spanish government is taking legal action and said Spanair could be fined 9m euros (£7.6m; $11.9m) over the collapse. In 2010, Spanair reported an operating loss of 115m euros. The collapse comes after Qatar Airways stopped takeover talks, ending the prospect of further financing, and also reflects weak demand for air travel in Spain.


www.bbc.co.uk...

The Spanish Gov't is suing a company that is operating at a loss and has collapsed?


That's priceless . . . a broke country suiing a broke airline . . thus dedicating resources the don't have to create a debt they'll never collect.

Sheesh . . .



posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 03:26 PM
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Oh, look at Sarkozy trying to look like the good guy...

SARKOZY REJECTS GREECE CEDING BUDGET MANAGEMENT TO EU
SARKOZY SAYS NO QUESTION OF PUTTING GREECE `UNDER TUTELAGE'
SARKOZY SAYS EU TAKEOVER OF GREECE WOULD NOT BE REASONABLE, "DEMOCRATIC"

Yeah, all a coincidence that there's an election in less than 3 months and Sarko is set to get his butt kicked... I'm sure this ain't related in no ways at all...

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