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The "up-to-the-minute Market Data" thread

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posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 01:13 PM
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It is the DROP in living standard that is destroying markets. And who destroyed living standard?
= Gambling with prospects.

Big investors destroyed market. They saw profits in imaginary projections, and neglected reality.

Now they can have their imaginary gambling paradise in the echo tunnel.

Hope someone is going to bring them down to the little gray French machine...




posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 01:20 PM
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Thats what deregulation does to a nation's economy, still I see now the big fuss behind the Federal government shutdown, is all about some laws that they were working on to allowed the federal government to finance itself, now where the money is suppose to come from? more printing?, I guess.




posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 01:24 PM
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CNBC says there was just a 100 point rebound.



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 01:30 PM
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They can either print or tax. If they print, it's because they're afraid of direct confrontation with people. Inflation will create parallel, black markets, where the authorities will be even more criminalized and stealing (not taxing!) more.




posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 01:45 PM
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Euro, Stocks Soar On FT Report EU "Looks To Swift Recap" Of European Banks

Just a Rumour,so some People can make a quick Profit or something...doesn´t matter,didn´t work very long anyway

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posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 01:46 PM
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Well Obama is asking the EU to help fix their economies, I thought that the fed lend money last week to the EU just for that, so where did the money go.

I guess just like our own government money is going every month to the point that it needs monthly infusions to keep working.


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posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 02:07 PM
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And the truth will set you free,

The ugly truth about the super powers economies is showing its face,

China under estimated their production growth and Europe is near another recession


Economic news was bad around the world. A closely watched survey in Europe indicated a recession could be on the way there, and a manufacturing survey suggested a slowdown in China, which has been one of the hottest economies


www.startribune.com...



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 02:12 PM
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CNBC: Dow down 400...now



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 02:15 PM
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"Lowest close in a year"



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 02:20 PM
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So whose going to bet on tomorrow being Black Friday, Sept. 23, 2011?



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 02:21 PM
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Originally posted by simone50m
"Lowest close in a year"

Well the SP 500 is around December 2009 levels.

So yeah.

And it ain't over... not by a long shot. Unless Ben announces more assets purchases very soon, we'll see lower numbers than in 2008.

Dow 6000 and SP500 600 here we come!



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 02:26 PM
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CNBC: "We are going to go commercial free until the top of the hour."

Holy smithereens, that can't be good.........



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 02:32 PM
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Originally posted by relocator
So whose going to bet on tomorrow being Black Friday, Sept. 23, 2011?

I'll bet on it!!! ...On the short end that is.



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 02:35 PM
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You know the markets are not crashing unless cnbc is telling you to buy



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 06:56 PM
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Operning on the aussie is 5 minutes and counting.
this fall is going to be precipitus.



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 07:11 PM
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The next big threat your 401K, Market Havoc And Threats To Your Pension..."Looting The 401k's Has Started"


We have warned subscribers and listeners and those on the Internet over and over again that government was going to come after your private retirement funds including 401K’s and IRA’s that hold $6.6 trillion in investments.

This past week in a grand deficit cutting bargain the Senate Finance Committee explored “Tax Reform Options Promoting Retirement Security.” The excuse is to make 401K plans more efficient; to keep Social Security afloat and to switch funds from these retirement plans to be used elsewhere by government. It is called a looting procedure. The idea is to replace the 401K with a tax break that would allow government to offer bigger benefits to low earners and changes in withdrawal choices at retirement. It would include a change in the way Social Security benefits are calculated to reduce eventual payout and subsidize the poor via a government guaranteed annuity. There would also be an increase in the retirement age. This approach is similar to something you would find in the communist manifesto.


______beforeitsnews/story/1114/021/Market_Havoc_And_Threats_To_Your_Pension..._Looting_The_401ks_Has_Started.html

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posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 09:17 PM
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Originally posted by simone50m
CNBC says there was just a 100 point rebound.


typical CNBC Cheer leaders this rebound will be short lived


rebound based on what false hopes?
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posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 11:45 PM
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Gold has taken a big hit today, down over $43 an ounce on the spot market., This decline was to be expected, and even welcomed.

It’s a fact — no bull market goes straight up. We need consolidations and pullbacks, not only for the general health of the market, but for opportunities to get into our targeted positions at value prices.

However, what is disappointing is what happened after the Federal Reserve officially announced what is being called “Operation Twist,” in which it will shed some of its shorter-dated bonds for longer-dated ones, an effort to reduce supply and increase demand of the latter. (By doing so, the Fed’s expectation is the price of those long-term bonds will rise, lowering the yields, which in turn drives down long-term interest rates on mortgages, car loans and the like.)

Operation Twist will be a failure, I have no doubt. It’ll do nothing to help the economy.

But more tellingly, when Operation Twist was announced yesterday, the stock market reacted with a swift and deep drop. That tells me the recent market rally was based on an expectation the Fed would rev up the virtual printing presses again for more “quantitative easing,” which is fuel for short-term market gains (but also for massive inflationary conflagration in the long run).

Yes, the expectation was for the Fed to save the day — for the big wigs on Wall Street, at least! But it didn’t happen, at least not yet.

You don’t need a long memory to recall the market rallied on QE2 into the second quarter of 2011. Yet, it is now obviously clear in hindsight that the economy was in bad shape and slowing by the first quarter of the year, conditions that continue today. In other words, when all was said and done, QE2 did nothing for the economy other than create a lot of Wall Street bonuses!

What that screams to me, however, is bargains are underfoot. The bull market in gold is ongoing, and gold-mining stocks are very cheap when compared to the price of bullion, which remains over $1,700 an ounce.

Meanwhile, the gold stocks do need some overall market stability, a stock market that remains relatively stable or at least only gradually declines. When the Dow drops 400 points in a day, it instills panic and people throw out the good stocks with the bad.

Here’s the good news, though. In my analysis, I believe we are nearing a panic bottom. Whenever you begin to see that the only things going up in price are the U.S. dollar, U.S. Treasurys, and the Japanese yen, that is always the sign of full-on-panic mode, and that you’re nearing a bottom.

Keep in mind, gold tends to get smashed near a bottom, because people are selling everything in a dash for cash. Say as a large investor, you get a margin call on your Dow stock or more aggressive holdings; you’ll then sell gold to raise capital to meet that margin call.

This “forced liquidation” tends to be a sign that we’re near the end of something in terms of the selling environment, not at the start.

Everyone seems to be blaming this selloff on the European debt crisis. However, what people fail to note is other than Greece, the other so-called PIIGS (Portugal Ireland, Italy and Spain) have interest rates that are lower than their highs of the summer.

So the market is not moving down solely based on the issues facing Europe. All in all, I think the market is very oversold and will rally shortly.



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 12:45 AM
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Moody's cut Greek bank outlooks, any questions???

Whitman is back at "HP"!!!

Hoooo Raahhhh!!!!



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 12:55 AM
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Greece down 47 %!!!!!

WTF??????



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