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The "up-to-the-minute Market Data" thread

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posted on Jul, 16 2010 @ 11:26 AM
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Oh well yeah hello!
Gravity works again


DOW -212
Gold 1,191

And they call it "sentiment dives"... Antidepressant please




posted on Jul, 16 2010 @ 12:42 PM
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Meh, I ain't worried. Next week it will rise again, probably above 10,500 and it will be economic recovery again. Then the week after everyone will be thinking there is no recovery, then the week after that it will rise and everyone will say how great its doing. It's ******* stupid.

[edit on 16-7-2010 by xxshadowfaxx]



posted on Jul, 16 2010 @ 12:45 PM
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Controlled demolition.

It looks like there's no rhyme or reason (other than profit-making for the big boys). But there surely is...



posted on Jul, 16 2010 @ 01:09 PM
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Rarely before have a few coded words in the minutes of the US Federal Reserve caused such an upheaval in the global currency system, or such a sudden flight from the dollar.



The euro rocketed to a two-month high of $1.29 and sterling jumped two cents to almost $1.54 after the Fed confessed that the US economy may not recover for five or six years. Far from winding down emergency stimulus, the bank may need a fresh blast of bond purchases or quantitative easing.


When even the FED thinks the recovery is utter BS, well you get those results...DUH. And of course you gonna do QE 2.0...



posted on Jul, 16 2010 @ 01:14 PM
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Soooooooo.........?

The Cap Test is going well, but BP stock is going down, and the DOW is going down a lot.......and there was a thread last night about 2 key energy and electronics companies that had an unusual amount of "short" calls, or bets on them going way down in price?

If the well is capped, then BP stock should be going up?

If the well is capped, then the outlook for the coast gets better, and the economic climate for a large part of the US starts to look better, so what is this "sentiment" they are talking about?

WTH is going on?



posted on Jul, 16 2010 @ 01:19 PM
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This is the way it goes, when the market drops everyone is OH NOOOO! on monday we'll be back to economic recovery and everyone will have forgotten today. I don't even check this everyday anymore, there is no way to tell when its going to crash, or if its going to. So I kinda gave up. Nothing makes sense, its obviously rigged. But why are they letting it be so volatile? Bank of america profits top 3 billion?? Anyway, I'm going to go to work, and pretend everything is fine, because, it always is.



posted on Jul, 16 2010 @ 01:32 PM
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The fed lost its ability to control the economy and the markets with their influences.

The big rats in Wall street found out that they can do that without the fed help and still reap the profits and still keep their wealth, thanks to the control they now have on congress.

So as we can see no even the fed can predict anymore how our markets will go.

And as for the illusion of economic recovery only a fool will fall for that one.



posted on Jul, 16 2010 @ 05:59 PM
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Time for QE 2.0 then! Let's print money and devalue the dollar! YAY!

This week, 6 banks going down for a total cost to the FDIC of 334 million $.. a little more than a buck for every american... no big deal right?



posted on Jul, 17 2010 @ 01:39 PM
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That really was quite a fall on the Dow yesterday:


10097.90 down 261.41 (-2.52%)


But I suppose it's just business as usual. Crazy times.

US stocks down on recovery fears


Leading US stock markets tumbled more than 2.5% as poor company results and fresh economic data hit investor confidence in the economic recovery.

On Wall Street the benchmark Dow Jones Industrial Average fell 2.5%, while the S&P 500 index was down 2.9%.

Shares in Citigroup and Bank of America were hit, with both reporting falling revenues.

US consumer confidence also fell to its lowest level since August 2009, according to one report.

The poor results were not limited to US banks, however, with General Electric also down 5% after reporting falling revenues, despite a rise in profits...



posted on Jul, 17 2010 @ 04:42 PM
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Recovery fear... lol. More like on continuous decline...

The dollar fell the most against the euro in 14 months


and dropped to the lowest level this year versus the yen as economic reports added to evidence that the U.S. recovery is losing momentum.

The U.S. currency dropped 2.3 percent to 86.57 yen, from 88.62 yen, after reaching 86.27 yesterday, the lowest level since Dec. 1.



posted on Jul, 17 2010 @ 07:13 PM
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You're gunna love this...

Goldman Sachs sets aside $9billion for pay as revenues drop


Goldman Sachs is set to pay as much as 45pc of its 2010 revenues to its staff in a move that is likely to reignite political anger with the investment bank just days after it settled a high-profile fraud case with American regulators.

Analysts expect Goldman to say that its closely-watched compensation ratio, which indicates the intended level of staff pay as a proportion of its revenues, is between 40pc and 45pc when it announces its second quarter results this week.

Goldman's results will also show for the first time a $600m (£392m) hit for the UK's bonus tax.

The bank is estimated to have set aside just over $9bn in pay for its staff in the first half of 2010, working out at an average payout of $235,429 for each of its 38,500 employees for the last six months of work. Goldman bankers are on track to be paid nearly $500,000 each at full year, with senior bankers being paid far more...





posted on Jul, 18 2010 @ 03:39 PM
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Goldman Sachs love their money.

China and Japan being net sellers of US treasuries in May

China's holdings fell $32.5 billion to $867.7 billion, but it maintained the top position among foreign countries.

Japan, the second largest holder of Treasurys, was a net seller, slimming its portfolio to $786.7 billion from $795.5 billion in April.



And big news :

The Next Leg Of Eurocrisis 2010? The Hungary Wolfpack Cometh As IMF, EU Cancel $25 Billion Rescue Loan Access

In the most surprising news of the weekend (so far), the IMF and the EU effectively suspended Hungary's access to the remaining funds in a $25 billion rescue loan package created in 2008 to prevent a financial meltdown of the country.

"One would definitely expect a weakening forint Monday. A 10-forint weakening (versus the euro) is quite plausible, and nobody knows how nervous the market's reaction might be."

Although Hungary, seeking to secure a precautionary loan deal with the International Monetary Fund, was to continue discussions with officials of the IMF and the European Union on Monday, the mission from the Washington-based lender decided to return home. The EU also postponed the conclusion of the review of the country’s EUR 20 billion credit facility granted in the autumn of 2008. The reason is that "a range of issues remain open" and the cabinet that will need to provide clarification for these. Brace yourself for Monday, folks!



Big bank from the UK manipulating the currency market?
Probably an operation from the FED...


[edit on 18-7-2010 by Vitchilo]



posted on Jul, 18 2010 @ 03:57 PM
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From that article:


...Selling by China since late last year for four consecutive months raised some concerns that the largest creditor nation to the U.S. may be reducing its exposure to the dollar...

Gotta love the MSM commentary. May be reducing its exposure to the dollar.
Who do they think they're kiddin'?

A strong/stable US economy & currency is what we all want to see. But what's the point in trying to pull the wool over people's eyes? Loss of confidence in the dollar —what do you expect with massive 'quantitative easing'?— & gradual dumping of US treasury holdings (sufficiently slowly as to not cause immediate alarm) is as plain as day.


edit to add:

That's a pretty significant 'Stop Press' addition re Hungary!



[edit on 18/7/10 by pause4thought]



posted on Jul, 18 2010 @ 04:26 PM
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That's a pretty significant 'Stop Press' addition re Hungary!

Yep. Hungary will be the new Greece monday IMO. Prepare for more economic doom this week. YAY!



posted on Jul, 18 2010 @ 05:40 PM
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Hey, Vitchilo, what's with the additional Stop Press? Nearly missed it!

That's a pretty big conspiracy being posited on Zero Hedge:


This is increasingly appearing as shadow Fed debt monetization operation, operating out of the United Kingdom...

Yep, looks like it could be quite a week.



posted on Jul, 18 2010 @ 05:49 PM
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I love stopping printing presses, it screws with people


Indeed this week is gonna be interesting...

Now I'm leaving to go see a concert of Rammstein!



posted on Jul, 18 2010 @ 06:29 PM
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Just noticed there's a fresh thread on the subject:

US and UK central banks operating shadow monetization program

While we're at it, there's a discussion of the Goldman Sachs $9billion bonus payout here:

You gotta be kiddin'

Plus more about the Hungary situation:

Markets braced for turmoil

Hold onto your hats.



posted on Jul, 19 2010 @ 02:15 AM
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The show was great, there were around 110.000 people! A record!

Moodys downgrades Ireland's rating to Aa2

A journalist/blogger who exposed lots of political and economic corruption in Greece was assassinated today by cops in front of his house, mafia style. The whole media industry in Greece is shocked.

It's in Greek...
The journalist name was Socrates Giolias.

May you rest in peace, truth seeker!


IMO this kind of thing will happen in the entire west, US included. Talk bad about Goldman Sachs or the FED? They gonna put a few holes in you.

[edit on 19-7-2010 by Vitchilo]



posted on Jul, 19 2010 @ 05:34 AM
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Another good post. It's difficult to keep up!

Ireland being downgraded is would normally be enough to keep us occupied, but the news about the Greek blogger has somewhat stolen the limelight. Trying to get to the bottom of it here.


It seems trite in comparison, but the news about Hungary doesn't seem to have blighted the opening in London:




FTSE:

5176.61 down 17.76 (-0.34%)

Source



posted on Jul, 19 2010 @ 08:14 AM
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The prediction for the markets are not to be taken slightly, but rather be apprehensive, even interested, because we are going to see political manipulation at its finest.

The Democrats are doing badly even Vice president Biden came out public with the depressing poll numbers that are giving a view of things to come on mid term elections.

So yes markets will hold steady, even will look better than expected so the political campaign of Obma economic recovery can be promoted.

But only fools will fall for good things to come in the next few months.



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