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posted on Jun, 4 2010 @ 07:49 PM
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my analysis of todays ~323 dollar plunge!


a bunch of traders/investors/player-in-the-casino-market
are getting busy in divesting themselves of overpriced stocks

yo, the 30-1 price-earnings ratio is great for a pumped up market
with all the schmucks buying because its the popular thing-to-do


but that scenario was prior to the 2007...'wake up call'

all thats been going on is the micro-second traders
are pilfering from one-another in a type of musical-chairs
==dare me== 'i'm all in' poker strategy...
with all the FED money given to these 'Primary Dealers'/
'Market Maker' banks & finance house (goldman/BoA/Morgan/Citi/et al)


i'm seriously hoping that the stock market goes dismal.
with no parties buying into the hyped up corps.
to get the actual market valuations in line with the actual numbers.


i.e. Apple is really worth $58 rather than the $258 garbage on the
DOW presently... and A
LL those deepwater drillers are only really worth 10% of their overpriced
trading valuations...

why is this the norm----because these banksters are being given FED
monies (in the ballpark or $12 Trillion) to help inflate the mess we are in


don't wanna bore youse with rhetorical things, so i'll close


but with the thought that the DOW will decrease to the 6,400 or below
level as the needed 'Deflation' proceeds...and establishes an equilibrium
in the price of stocks , whatever their pumped up earning are fictionalized to be




posted on Jun, 4 2010 @ 08:28 PM
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The Market of the Bailout Money, that it should be called...

A false economy in an artificially created volume floating above the 6.400 line.

It doesn't help economy. It brings in confusion and neglect. Distraction and misdirection.



posted on Jun, 4 2010 @ 08:58 PM
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You are so right is not funny, I feel that we are entering a time in the global manipulation of economies that have not return.

We either will sink together or the major economies will never be able to raise to former glories.



posted on Jun, 5 2010 @ 05:03 AM
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i never seen the markets being scripted like this monday the media said wait and look to friday's numbers of job creation the media said you have no idea what obama the anti christ and his lovely wife jezabel have been doing with the white house garden now they didnt want to hang at arlington cemetary over the weekend and honor the dead like most presidents did they wanted forge a new path and were chased by a few strokes of lightning off the pulpit in shy town i think that theres bad karma around them but the media is way passed blind to it i'm in cash look out below you have anybody else i could consult maybe barney frank he always tells the truth nancy peloisi shes such a sweetie good looking thing and that ole thing that bill clinton got tired of and sent her halfway around the world just to get away from her hiliary the world is a better place with all these keepers in it not!



posted on Jun, 5 2010 @ 05:09 AM
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Originally posted by TheCoffinman
www.reuters.com...

President Barack Obama said on Friday the gain of 431,000 jobs in May is a sign the U.S. economy is getting stronger


liar!!!


Can you believe the government hired an outstanding 411,000 people? .. Not all census jobs either.. the Government is on a hiring rampage.



posted on Jun, 5 2010 @ 07:31 AM
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The best illustration of present political and economic situation:




BP, facing a U.S. criminal probe amid mounting lawsuits, dwindling investor confidence and growing questions about its credit-worthiness, delayed word on whether it would suspend an upcoming dividend payment to shareholders, as some U.S. politicians demanded.


www.reuters.com...




"What I don't want to hear is, when they're spending that kind of money on their shareholders and spending that kind of money on TV advertising, that they're nickel and diming fishermen or small businesses here in the Gulf," Obama said.


When are next elections?



posted on Jun, 5 2010 @ 08:43 AM
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It seems folks in Spain are waking up to perpetual debt enslavement:





(—taken outside the current Bilderberg meeting).

Discussion here


Peaceful, but purposeful. Powerful stuff. You have to wonder what the bankers will say to such an awakening, and what effect it might eventually have on the whole system...



posted on Jun, 5 2010 @ 09:04 AM
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Originally posted by TheCoffinman
www.reuters.com...

President Barack Obama said on Friday the gain of 431,000 jobs in May is a sign the U.S. economy is getting stronger


liar!!!


Unbelievable, that he would tell such a bold in your face lie,



posted on Jun, 5 2010 @ 09:08 AM
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You are so right is not funny, I feel that we are entering a time in the global manipulation of economies that have not return. We either will sink together or the major economies will never be able to raise to former glories.


Maybe this is why Michelle Obama (Mrs. President?), has planted a garden.

A subliminal message to the masses. Sow your own seeds, for soon will pick your own crops, to feed you and your family!

All I can say is, I dont have the stomach/or funds! to play this shell game!



posted on Jun, 5 2010 @ 11:03 PM
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Political cowards around the world have chosen Mises’ second outcome – “a total catastrophe of the currency system involved.”None of the countries have the resources to continue to fund current programs. As their economies deteriorate, they will “print money” in order to continue meeting obligations and stimulating. At some point, the money supply will explode vis a vis the goods available.

We have seen many “impossibles” in the last couple of years. Be prepared for the next — a hyperinflationary depression. It is not impossible, it is not an oxymoron and it should surprise no thinking economist. It is nearly upon us.

Your lifestyle will depend on how prepared you are to meet this newest, biggest and most horrific Black Swan. This beast will destroy economies, overthrow some governments, and alter the nature of the world.
Wake up people! Your politicians have no intention of heading this off.


thecomingdepression.blogspot.com...



posted on Jun, 5 2010 @ 11:46 PM
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Has anyone stopped and thought about the numbers from the Jobs report? 431,000 jobs created minus 411,000 census workers equals 20,000 jobs. The average number of new potential workers entering the job market every month is estimated at 150,000 according to government numbers. That puts us at 130,000 new people jobless this month AT LEAST considering the census bureau artificially inflated the numbers by hiring and firing their workers over and over again.. >_



posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 09:23 AM
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Rating Cut by Fitch on Wealthiest U.S. State
When the wealthiest state in the US is in trouble... yeah...

And DAMN it's good to see those protests at Bilderberg! I was at the 2006 meeting... and we were what... 20 people AT MOST?

It's good to see that many people! BILDERBERG EXPOSED.



posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 12:57 PM
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That's sobering news. Funny how a recovery can be characterized by ever-worsening public finances.


The advert beside the article was almost as worrying:







Will they never learn?



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 02:37 AM
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hungary is saying they're getting low on goulash tonight cant buy cheap potatoes anymore from russia the price of vodka is skyrocketing do we need to send in our slighted cnn reporters to cover this story or do we need to send the heavy weights obama and his lovely wife jezabel it worked for 3 days last week but then the real job #s came out and most of america took a bath for the week i dont think nancy peloisi will be waving her pom pom's like she did last week i'm going to track her investments this week she's such a leader she was over at al sharptons place over the weekend he said he did mind having her over there but he said he lost 3 mirrors under mysterious circumstances he said nothing ever happened when he lit his crack pipe in front of any of his mirrors before women it's time for you to go let me take back to your c-22 so you can leave al sharpton was seen over the weekend at home depot buying a few new mirrors for the house



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 05:11 AM
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China is going after Goldman Sach.

Goldman Sachs Stung by Backlash in China


Public criticism of Goldman Sachs has come to China, where the investment bank has been lambasted in articles in state-controlled media.

Parts of the media, apparently emboldened by congressional inquiries and public anger in the west, have openly slated Goldman [GS 142.25 -1.79 (-1.24%) ] , arguably the most successful foreign investment bank in China.

“Many people believe Goldman Sachs, which goes around the Chinese market slurping gold and sucking silver, may have, using all kinds of deals, created even bigger losses for Chinese companies and investors than it did with its fraudulent actions in the U.S.,” read the opening lines of an article in the China Youth Daily, a state-owned daily newspaper, last week.


So Goldman is trying to do the same dirty trick it has done to the US and China is retaliating against them with a line of propaganda to warn their investors about their practices.

Interesting.

Goldman is dirty, corrupted and nasty, but they rule US government, in American they are gods.

www.cnbc.com...



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 05:14 AM
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Is going to be an interesting day of trading, things are not looking good with the Euro.

Euro Falls Further on Debt, Hungary Worries


The euro fell broadly on Monday, hitting its lowest in more than four years against the dollar on concerns about debt and fragile growth in the euro zone, exacerbated by worries about Hungary's fiscal situation.

Weaker-than-expected U.S. jobs data, mounting worries about the potential dent to euro zone growth from austerity measures in some countries and concerns Hungary may be the next Greece prompted investors to dump risky assets.

The higher-yielding Australian dollar [AUD=X 0.8165 -0.0049 (-0.6%) ] fell as equities and commodity prices took a knock while traders unwound carry trades, where money is borrowed in lower-yielding currencies to fund higher-yielding investments.


www.cnbc.com...



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 09:10 AM
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The FED is having an emergency discount rate meeting today...

IMO they received orders from Bilderberg to do that, IMO they gonna raise interest rates so the debt becomes more and more unsustainable, so the government have to tax people even more saying that if they don't they gonna go bankrupt...

We'll see what they do...

UPDATE:
In 5 Years, UK Will Be Spending More On Interest Than Schools, Climate, And Transport Combined
Nice uh?

College Students This Is Your Future: High Unemployment And Student Loan Hell

U.S. Will be Like Greece in ‘Seven to 10 Years,’ Say Congressmen, Experts
Way before that IMO.

Btw, windows 7 x64 is great!


[edit on 7-6-2010 by Vitchilo]



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 09:14 AM
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The thing is that is going to be taxes starting next year, is all over the CNBC a discussion this morning between the NY mayor and McCain, yes Obama is going to tax us to death starting next year.

So raising interest rates will be the sign to deceive people into believing that the economy is getting better, right? even if they are still unemployed and getting salary cuts, falling into food stamps and welfare

America is going to become unbearable for the middle class next year and when the HCR hits, you see what is heading our way.



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 09:38 AM
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Call me uneducated to the ways of the market if you will, but.. Does it look like there is major sleight of hand going on in the markets lately?? Horrible news on Friday, and the DJI nosedives below 10k again. Euro and Asian markets tank hard before US trading today, and low and behold.. Dow is climbing back toward the 10k mark... We've had such a horrible cycle of volatility lately, seems like the "wobble before the spinning coin falls" wouldn't be able to sustain this long..



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 09:38 AM
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Originally posted by Vitchilo
The FED is having an emergency discount rate meeting today...

IMO they received orders from Bilderberg to do that, IMO they gonna raise interest rates so the debt becomes more and more unsustainable, so the government have to tax people even more saying that if they don't they gonna go bankrupt...


Nope !

it's nothing to do with the numbers it's to do with iserail wanting more help from the USA.

Check out all the major names in banking and see where the path leads.



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