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posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 02:57 PM
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Geez its only money, just print some more!!


Seriously, the line between want and need is so distorted. $500 billion over??? I would love to know what jobs these people hold that is so important.




posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 03:06 PM
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Greece 1987.58 -61.11 -2.98% 17:19

UAE Dubai 1800.12 -38.95 -2.12% 13:59

Argentina 2449.05 -37.67 -1.51% 16:30

Baltic Capesize 3377.00 -52.00 -1.52% 04/06

...as the market falls!...brought to you by BB&TT


United States 10897.52 -72.47 -0.66% 16:03

Consumer Credit: OUCH!
market-ticker.org
market-ticker.org...
www.federalreserve.gov...

From The Mail Box: AIG Goes Parabolic As Repo Desks And Prime Brokers Pulls Borrow And Force Short Covering
www.zerohedge.com...



(Hmmm...a graveyard here these days...It'll pick up soon
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[edit on 4/7/2010 by Hx3_1963]

[edit on 4/7/2010 by Hx3_1963]



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 06:14 PM
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Just when you thought it couldn't get worse (or even that things were getting better):

The largest fraud in history

Yep. Doom addicts strap yourselves in.

Hx: strike up the BarBe.

(Onions & mustard, please.)



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 08:59 PM
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I still can't understand why yields on Tbills are going down since the US is financially FUBAR...

They should be going up and up. Investors need to stop buying US T-bills and buy gold and silver instead.



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 09:09 PM
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Originally posted by OBE1

dharma notes: Arch Crawford’s track record has an accuracy of somewhere around 85% and he has been ranked #1 stock market timer out of a field of 500 investment newsletters multiple years by Hulbert’s Digest since he started publishing in 1977.

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Originally posted by OBE1
He also called Gold to make strong moves beginning around the 1st week in April.


"Gold to “take off like a rocket” the first week in April."

I just checked and it's still the first week in April...we even lost an extra trading day to the Easter holiday.

Could be the beginning of an astronomical upleg in Gold


Crawford Perspectives



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 09:38 PM
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Maybe because the economy isn't FUBAR, just a thought. major indexes' volume is increasing. Productivity in manufacturing is at an all time high, full-time hiring will gradually pick-up. the only things that can screw it up (that are in gov't/fed control) are increasing intrest rates to fast or starting a trade war with anyone or any kind of protectionist policy changes.

As Americans we want to spend money, hopefully we can learn to spend wisely.



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 10:04 PM
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Originally posted by Vitchilo
I still can't understand why yields on Tbills are going down since the US is financially FUBAR...

They should be going up and up. Investors need to stop buying US T-bills and buy gold and silver instead.


We have already seen the beginning of that very thing. What we have to remember is that there is still massive manipulation of every market. That's the reason that Dave Maguire came out against JPM's metal manipulations, he understands that they've scewed it so badly that when it does go it may very well take countries and the global economy with it.

That truly is the scary part of messing with the free market, it creates aberrations that would have never existed if it was allowed to correct along the way. They went 'all in' with their attempt to save their system. It didn't work and now the balance is so far off that when they lose control it's gonna happen fast and be catastophic.


The dollars so called strength against collapsing currencies hasn't been able to touch gold lately, so the paradigm seems to have shifted and is shifting to the only money that has ruled for over 5000 years. When it becomes clear that there is 100 times as much paper gold and silver as physical.........BOOM!



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 10:13 PM
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They went 'all in' with their attempt to save their system. It didn't work and now the balance is so far off that when they lose control it's gonna happen fast and be catastophic.


remember, they have more to lose than we do.

it ain't over yet, I agree with the balance of what your saying, but saying its all over, we are doooommmed, ia a little premature.

you can hope for change, I will trust in greed



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 11:05 PM
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Doomed isn't my word, it's yours. I think it may be the fear of change that leads people to that word. Change is the only constant.

As far as premature, I wasn't trying to put a time frame on it.



posted on Apr, 8 2010 @ 01:00 AM
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I've been reading doom and gloom about the economy for months now, and its just the same now, as it was then. I no longer believe any of the doom and gloom anymore. Everyone here, vancouver, canada, is doing fantastic. Economy is improving at steady rates, people are spending money all over the place. Even in the usa..... 300,000 ipads sold in one day. People are spending money, so that means people can afford to spend money.

Every single time I go out for dinner, or to a movie, or whatever, it's always packed.Every time. There are constructions crews building condo's which are selling before they are even built. Entire streets of farmland are being torn up, and apartments condos, industry are all going up at alarming rates.

It looks to me like the economy is doing great. I'm tired of everyone saying its awful and that its going to collapse, when it clearly looks like its doing well.

They always bail out whoever needs it, and they always find a way to keep things going. So I'm not worried, and I'm not even going to bother coming in this forum anymore because its depressing. I've told people that the economy isn't doing good because of the things i've read here, and they looks at me like I'm crazy. I'm tired of all the false information, so there is just no way to prepare for anything until it happens, if it happens.



posted on Apr, 8 2010 @ 02:15 AM
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Economy is improving at steady rates, people are spending money all over the place. Even in the usa..... 300,000 ipads sold in one day. People are spending money, so that means people can afford to spend money.


Paying 500 bucks for that toy proves only one thing...



posted on Apr, 8 2010 @ 02:18 AM
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Originally posted by DangerDeath
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Economy is improving at steady rates, people are spending money all over the place. Even in the usa..... 300,000 ipads sold in one day. People are spending money, so that means people can afford to spend money.


Paying 500 bucks for that toy proves only one thing...





So people are spending money because the can afford to do it.
I have to wonder if that is exactly the type of thinking that got into this mess. But what do I know.



posted on Apr, 8 2010 @ 02:24 AM
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Originally posted by DangerDeath
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Economy is improving at steady rates, people are spending money all over the place. Even in the usa..... 300,000 ipads sold in one day. People are spending money, so that means people can afford to spend money.


Paying 500 bucks for that toy proves only one thing...


A fool and it's money are easily separated?


The ``local economy`` might be doing good, but that's because all the people in trouble moved in tent cities.


Not to mention that the government is taking over everything, the states are bankrupt, people are angry, the deficits they run will run the debt so high the IMF will sooner or later take over the US economic policy and then it's game over.



posted on Apr, 8 2010 @ 02:38 AM
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Take a look at this video.

It's about the people who can't afford to buy iPad


news.bbc.co.uk...

And have a drink in a nearby cafe...



posted on Apr, 8 2010 @ 02:40 AM
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I would recommend anyone watch the Dollar Bubble





posted on Apr, 8 2010 @ 07:55 AM
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I no longer believe any of the doom and gloom anymore. Everyone here, vancouver, canada, is doing fantastic.


Market tops usually happen when investor sentiment is running high.

From a market psychology standpoint it is times like these when everyone is bullish and expecting new highs that nobody is left to buy in and drive the market higher.

Yesterday morning the Dow gaped down at the open for the first time in weeks. The Dow Sept futures have recently trading at a discount of more than 100 points lower than cash. They could be factoring in the expectation of higher interest rates but there may be more to it than that. The Fed may no longer be actively supporting the equity markets to the extent they had been. Who knows what kind of deals they made behind the scene with investment houses like Goldman Sachs to keep the indexes up through the worst part of the recession.

We may not have to wait till the fed comes out and announces an increase in the discount rate, to see a correction in stock prices. It may be time for another 500 point correction in the Dow like we have seen in the past to let the market breath.



posted on Apr, 8 2010 @ 09:56 AM
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So I'm not worried, and I'm not even going to bother coming in this forum anymore

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So why the need to even make that statement? Why didn't you just do it? Because in the back of your mind you see the facts, you simply can't face them. There's nothing special about that, it's called denial. Things are looking just fine, so catch ya later!


Looks like Greece is in trouble, Spain next, and our deficit to gdp in the US ain't much different than theirs. LA to run out of money in a month, Illinois debt downgrade, etc, etc........

[edit on 8-4-2010 by HimWhoHathAnEar]



posted on Apr, 8 2010 @ 10:50 AM
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Originally posted by xxshadowfaxx
I've been reading doom and gloom about the economy for months now, and its just the same now, as it was then. I no longer believe any of the doom and gloom anymore.


!!!Good for you my friend!!! such optimism should be taken with high regards . . .

And in the news

Initial Jobless Claims Drive Markets Down


Markets slid during trading yesterday for the second consecutive session. The Dow Jones led the fall with a 0.66 percent (72.47 points) drop, followed closely by the S&P 500 (0.59 percent, 6.99 points). The NASDAQ performed better, but still ended up falling 0.23 percent (5.65 points) at the closing bell.

According to CNNMoney.com, markets will drop again for much of today. After pushing a strong rally for much of the last two weeks, investors have backed away from their own progress and are now creating a mild slump.


money.cnn.com...

Important Daily News You Need to Know, Today's Issue: Inflation

www.economyincrisis.org...

Manipulation is such a wonderful thing

Goldman Sachs Has No Apologies


The much-maligned financial firm recently referred to as “the Great American Bubble Machine,” Goldman Sachs, issued its annual earnings report Wednesday featuring a full-throated defense of its role in the housing market collapse, its heavily criticized executive compensation packages and the extraordinary help it has received from the federal government.

The company, which received $10 billion in preferred stock investment from the U.S. Treasury through the Troubled Assets Relief Program in October 2008, downplayed the aid it received from the federal government in the midst of the crisis.

"Goldman did not and does not operate or manage our risk with any expectation of outside assistance," the report says.


www.economyincrisis.org...

[edit on 8-4-2010 by marg6043]



posted on Apr, 8 2010 @ 12:15 PM
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Here's a little something from your neck of the woods. Everyone down here thought housing prices always went up too.
market-ticker.org...


The latest median household income I can find for Canada is closer to $53,000 - or about half of what it should be. That is, homes in Canada - on the whole - are selling for double reasonable "fair values."
I'm willing to bet that in Vancouver they're overvalued by a factor of five - or more
I can't tell you when it will blow up, but I can tell you with absolute certainty that it will.



posted on Apr, 8 2010 @ 12:29 PM
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The housing market is doing great here. Everything is super expensive however, but that isn't stopping people from buying anything. They're selling out after a week in the market. The biggest problem is for the younger folks. Myself included. If you don't have a second income, chances are you can't afford to buy anything. The new HST coming to bc soon, is really going to screw things up for the young crowd. I don't know what I'm going to do when it comes to buying a house. But its hard enough to even find one, without a sold tag on it. I don't understand where people get their money.



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