The "up-to-the-minute Market Data" thread, page 570
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reply posted on 21-11-2009 @ 07:56 AM by DaddyBare
reply to post by Cabaret Voltaire



I've been out of the market of a while now...I stil think were in for another big drop... My focus has been on buying fixing up and renting out foreclosed homes... made a few great deal took a few lumps but all in all the old rule of thumb is right, real wealth lies in real estate... not that I'll be what any would call rich, but I don't worry about paying my bills and to some that is being rich right??


reply posted on 21-11-2009 @ 04:59 PM by irishchic
reply to post by Cabaret Voltaire




I haven't "lost" a bunch on my long-term stuff,it's holding it's own lately but am not doing much day to day trading at all currently.Made a solid chunk on Apple a few weeks ago and then it got to $ to re-buy with any slush-factor.
Sort of waiting to see how it plays out in Dec.,traditionally it's a more "quiet" time in the market?
The problem with real estate as an investment is that I do think prices will continue to drop for a while and unless you can hang tight,you have taxes and gains and all that jazz to deal with...


reply posted on 22-11-2009 @ 11:41 AM by Vitchilo
The sequel of The Day The American Dollar Died...


Stunned, I reached for the half full glass of now somewhat warm wine and chugged it. While the sheeple as I affectionately nicknamed them might have slept through this announcement, it was Armageddon for our country. Screw it. I’m going to play golf one more time before it hits the fan. This is absurd.



And Part 3

[edit on 22-11-2009 by Vitchilo]



reply posted on 23-11-2009 @ 09:27 PM by nydsdan
The disconnect between rational "investment" theory and what is happening right now is growing larger. We all use rational thought to try to figure out what is going on, but what we have now defies logic. Yes, the falling dollar may help explain where we are at, but the whole notion of "investment" in stocks because you believe in a company is lost.

Today we "invest" on pure speculation of profit. Rarely do we have a scenario where people invest on faith of a long term success in a stock. Yes, it still occurs, but I believe most of the volume we see today is pure speculation on technical factors with no rational human thought behind it.

I figured we would be on a decline by now, but the market keeps soaring higher and higher while commodities continue to rise and the dollar falters. I expect this trend to continue and the only thing that can break the market rally will be a USD rally of some sort. I don't know what could cause such a USD rally, but that is the only thing I can think of that would break the soaring momentum the market holds right now.

I was bearish as hell until this fall. I saw the entire summer as a bounce in a W recession but the second leg is waaaay overdue. Now I don't see any real decline until after the new year. Dow 11000? Why not?

The only thing I know is this is purely manufactured and some sort of power/money grab has been in place for over a year now. I wish I had a copy of the playbook. I sold gold at the end of Oct.


reply posted on 23-11-2009 @ 11:41 PM by GreenBicMan
reply to post by nydsdan



1) I feel your pain on the gold, even though I only sold scrap when we broke the new high, I still feel cheated of course - although a gain is a gain

2) I dont think we are overvalued given the situation and easy money- we will have that giving our corps huge profits + weak dollar = multiple wave bull market = nasdaq 2003 (like i keep saying)


reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 02:43 AM by Cabaret Voltaire
Here ya go... www.marketwatch.com...

Right there is an old boy that wasted no time posting early Tuesday morning with a headline It's beginning to look a lot like a "W." to get the fear started.

Bring on the DOOM!!

[edit on 24-11-2009 by Cabaret Voltaire]



reply posted on 27-11-2009 @ 08:23 AM by DaddyBare
reply to post by marg6043



do you remember this little project?


To built this playground for the ultra rich they took out 53 billion in loans... in thirty days the first payment of 4.3 billion is due and they don't have the money... the next payment of 9.7 billion comes up in March and it looks like there's no way they'll make either of those payments on time.

There was talk their Arab neighbours would float another loan but everyone is backing away from them quick as they can... lets face it 53 billion in total debt is a hell of a lot of money and no one wants to be stuck with the tab when the piper comes calling.


reply posted on 27-11-2009 @ 08:29 AM by marg6043
reply to post by DaddyBare



Thanks, I new that they were doing all kind of projects and that they were to become the "Capital of the super Rich". . . did Bush was offered a penthouse in Dubai?

Still I thought they have lot of oil to back their projects spending with.

I would never have dream that they could spend billions with not backing whatsoever, I guess the global economic crisis is making even the billionaires to hold to their pockets after all.

What a waste of money, and then we most rethink how much of that money has gone to finance terrorism also.

I wish somebody from Dubai will throw some pocket money my way it seems they had no trouble with waste and abuse.
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