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posted on Oct, 10 2009 @ 09:53 PM
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Common Stander you know what it means 10,000 in the DOW it means . . . you know it means . . . the Fed can increase interest rates.





posted on Oct, 10 2009 @ 11:01 PM
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The prime rate must go up, so the economy wouldn't be overheating. There are indicators that Bernanke is using to adjust the rate, such as the rush hour traffic on San Diego freeway between Santa Monica and Sherman Oaks. Bernanke travels the distance, gets off on Ventura Blvd., looks at his watch, and then he adjusts the rate accordingly.



posted on Oct, 10 2009 @ 11:31 PM
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Originally posted by stander
reply to post by marg6043
 

The prime rate must go up, so the economy wouldn't be overheating. There are indicators that Bernanke is using to adjust the rate, such as the rush hour traffic on San Diego freeway between Santa Monica and Sherman Oaks. Bernanke travels the distance, gets off on Ventura Blvd., looks at his watch, and then he adjusts the rate accordingly.


So how's the economy, Ben?

Tubular . . . Totallyyyyy.



posted on Oct, 11 2009 @ 08:37 AM
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I think we most ask that question to Goldman Sach,

"How is the economy Mr. Goldman?"

Mr. Goldman - "Is time to raise the interest rates, (screaming) Bernanke !!!!! were are my interest rate increase !!!!! didn't I tell you to raise them"

Bernanke - "but Master, I mean Mr. Goldman the markets are not 10,000 yet."

Mr. Goldman - "Darn I forget to manipulate them again so they can reach 10,000 this week, (screaming) Obama !!!!!! we need another bailout!!!!"

Mr. obama - "is coming !!!!!! but congress is taking too long, and it has to sound good enough for the sheeple (I mean the people) to buy it"





posted on Oct, 11 2009 @ 10:00 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by stander
 


I think we most ask that question to Goldman Sach,


Hey, Goldy, is it soup yet?

Naw.

$11.2 trillion: Total losses in the stock market from the Dow's peak in October 2007 to the March 2009 bottom.

$4.6 trillion: Total gains in the stock market since March 9.

I'm still $6.6 trillion short.

When the market hit the bottom back in March, people stopped buying cars and TVs, coz sending their money to the funds instead was an opportunity hard to miss. $70,000 deposited with Mr. Goldman in April is now worth $90,000. Not $95,000, coz Mr. Goldman has expenses.

But if you don't buy cars and TVs, there is no reason to make them, and there is no reason to pay workers for doing nothing. And so the equilibrium point has been reached: unemployment = 9.8(%), Dow Jones = 9.8(k).
We have also reached the Point of Acceleration coz 9.8 is also
www.open2.net...
the acceleration due to gravity.


Are you ready for the fall into the
(With more doom accent on the first syllable, please.)
Aaaaaaare you ready for the fall into the Abysmal Incinerator of Unusual Desires, Mr. Goldman?

Yes, I humbly am, Heavenly Father.

drivaneios.files.wordpress.com...

I know it seems rather odd
but there are ways to outsmart God
there are ways to outsmart Jesus
whenever the Trader pleases.



~ pornfield noodles! ~







[edit on 10/11/2009 by stander]



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 07:05 AM
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How does it look like?

The third quarter earnings?

Yes.

Terrible.

Well, do something about it. Launch estimates.

Yes, Mr. Goldman.


Futures indicated a mildly higher open for Wall Street on Monday as better-than-expected third-quarter results began trickling in, boosting investors' optimism about the overall earnings season.



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 08:14 AM
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Mr goldman is it true that you benefit should the largest lender to small and mid sized companies file (CIT) for bankruptcy....

well i wouldn't put it that way necessarily.....especially in print


ok....then off the record.....

off the record that would be GREAT .....see we hold a very nice position with credit default swaps should CIT go under (not CITI) ...CIT..so yes we would clean up ...the only problem is we gotta

gotta what?

keep things quiet

why is that?

Well you know all that non-sense sold to the public that bailing out gambling houses...i mean investment banks....i mean commercial bank holding company's (as of late 08) was necessary for a strong economy...well how would it look to show the REALITY ....that as a for profit company....we make a nice profit should the biggest lender to the small and mid-sized businesses in the country go bankrupt.......and as one of the bondholders of CIT we can actually help this process occur by refusing to work with them on any restructuring as they try to avoid bankruptcy and make a deal with the creditors.

DISGUSTING.....PATHETIC....AND ALLOWED to HAPPEN HERE IN THE USA......

Unregulated Capitalism stemming from Political Conflict of Interests leads to Economic Destruction (for profit) and HIGH LEVEL NEED FOR MSM propoganda spin.....when former high level Goldman Execs sit in high level public office positions for over a decade they will find a way ...given time...to strip the economy of profits...then move on to another country

[edit on 12-10-2009 by cpdaman]



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 09:20 AM
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You guys are still missing one factor into your recovery formulas...

bout 28% of the U.S population is a baby boomer.... the largest single segment of the population and by far the richest generation to have ever been born... yes I'm a boomer too.... We represent 68% home buying and new car purchases... or we did...

after the crash all our accumulated wealth went poof... 401K's mostly gone. IRA's worthless if the bank goes bankrupt. Stock Portfolios less than 1/4 there value....

They wiped out the nations largest consumers... I know other boomers who worry they will have to rely on their kids to take care of them... so much for retirement and very little to pass along to our children....

Don't forget to factor in the loss of the boomers when thinking about when or if a recovery is possible



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 09:41 AM
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Originally posted by DaddyBare
You guys are still missing one factor into your recovery formulas...

bout 28% of the U.S population is a baby boomer.... the largest single segment of the population and by far the richest generation to have ever been born... yes I'm a boomer too.... We represent 68% home buying and new car purchases... or we did...

after the crash all our accumulated wealth went poof... 401K's mostly gone. IRA's worthless if the bank goes bankrupt. Stock Portfolios less than 1/4 there value....

They wiped out the nations largest consumers... I know other boomers who worry they will have to rely on their kids to take care of them... so much for retirement and very little to pass along to our children....

Don't forget to factor in the loss of the boomers when thinking about when or if a recovery is possible


the only recovery will be a technical one......it will be be jobless and earnings less........then we will double dip technically into another recession (in 2011 the latest)....thru another prizm this is called a depressionary process.

The real economy will keep crapping itself so long as banks continue to CUT LENDING.....and big "banks" like GS benefit from productive banks like (CIT) going bankrupt....

[edit on 12-10-2009 by cpdaman]



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 11:25 AM
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I had to dump my CIT stocks, was dragging down my other stocks. I was looking into another stock named INAR, Penny stocks...yes, but for 26 cents, awfully tempting......, beside, it's suppose to go online(internet) at the end of October. I'm not making a sales pitch or anything but need others incite as to whether it a good buy or not.



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 04:07 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043
"How is the economy Mr. Goldman?"

Not now, marg. Mr. Goldman is busy.

Bonus or charitable donation?
Bonus, Mr. Goldman.
Cash or stock?
Cash, Mr. Goldman.



In an effort to reduce criticism over distributing $20 billion in bonuses, banking giant Goldman Sachs will likely either give away most of its bonuses in the form of stock, or significantly increase its charitable donations, according to sources close to the bank.



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 04:09 PM
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Nice to have you aboard. Investment advice is a No Go, though. (Ts&Cs, etc.)

Informed analysis/public pillorying, on the other hand, is No Holds Barred. (Ts &Cs notwithstanding.)





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I take it the President runs a charity?..






[edit on 12/10/09 by pause4thought]



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 04:13 PM
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I will like to see those records, but hey congress now allow corrupted entities call "corporations privacy"



So we will never know, right Mr. Goldman?



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 04:35 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by stander
 


Common Stander you know what it means 10,000 in the DOW it means . . . you know it means . . . the Fed can increase interest rates.



Hi,

I've seen this mentioned a few times; however, stock market performance doesn't = how the economy is doing. Why would 10K be a magic interest rate hike number?



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 04:46 PM
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It's not that I can give you any links to substantiate that, but looking at the pass few months and the steady rise on the Markets even when the rest of the nation failing economically, unemployment, foreclosures, more bailouts in the making, people wonder where all this is coming from, the markets doing well while the rest of the nation decay.

The talks of raising interest rates has been in the media that is a fact, but is to early because is not a magic number yet, that number seems to be 10,000, that is when Bernanke can claim that the Markets are completely recovered and money can be make from raising interest rates, even when the rest of the nation is still in precarious economic situation.

It only shows that when it comes to the nations population we are nothing but servants to those that rules the nation.

Now that is my personal opinion.


So I could be wrong, but if interest rates are raised after the markets hit 10,000 then my prediction will be right.
and I would have prove a personal point.
after all inflation will hit us eventually and that is unavoidable, but the nation work force will not be able to handle inflation still.



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 06:35 PM
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Are you ready for the fall into the
(With more doom accent on the first syllable, please.)
Aaaaaaare you ready for the fall into the Abysmal Incinerator of Unusual Desires, Mr. Goldman?

Yes, I humbly am, Heavenly Father.
drivaneios.files.wordpress.com...

I know it seems rather odd
but there are ways to outsmart God
there are ways to outsmart Jesus
whenever the Trader pleases.

~ pornfield noodles! ~

Not to worry my Children...I have made arrangements...


Hey...a Guy has to have a ~Back-up Plan~...no?


[edit on 10/12/2009 by Hx3_1963]



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 06:35 PM
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Originally posted by DaddyBare
after the crash all our accumulated wealth went poof... 401K's mostly gone. IRA's worthless if the bank goes bankrupt. Stock Portfolios less than 1/4 there value....

That's why Mr. Goldman work so hard to put it back where it was: he recovered about one third of the lost value in six month that were plagued by high unemployment -- only a genius can do that. So by the time you retire the Dow would be well above 15,000. Mr. Goldman cares as much as he can. He wants to build an educational system module where folks would be educated in financial matters. He worries about the sanity of those who decided to put their retirement in the arms of highly volatile stock market. He wants also educate people on the matter of house purchase. It's obvious that the little naive and greedy American dreamer wiped out himself by skipping the fine print attached to the subprime deals.
www.helium.com...
It takes a village to raise a child; it takes a town to screw up the economy.

[edit on 10/12/2009 by stander]



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 07:31 PM
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I don't know that I would be trading in stocks right now...
See the consensus is once we reach 10.2% unemployment we'll see another market crash.... A very big crash!!!!

See a U3 of 10.2% would represent 1/3 off All Americans out of work... A number that would drag the economy down and stay that way for a very very long time.... we creep closer to that number every time we get a new labor report... it is also a number that will automatically trigger massive sell orders on a scale sure to close E-trading



posted on Oct, 12 2009 @ 11:19 PM
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i.dailymail.co.uk...

the NASA people bombed the moon
Armageddon's coming soon
never mix a man with gold
it doesn't know what's buy & hold





~ dumplings! ~



posted on Oct, 13 2009 @ 12:00 AM
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Coming to a Bank near you...Hmmm...


DSB Bank Placed Under Dutch Central Bank Management
www.bloomberg.com...

Oct. 12 (Bloomberg) -- DSB Bank NV, run by the owner of the Dutch national soccer champion, was placed under the control of the central bank as the outflow of capital threatened the financial-services company’s existence.

DSB Bank’s solvency is under “great pressure,” the Amsterdam-based central bank said today, revising an Oct. 1 statement that the lender met requirements for solvency and liquidity. DSB’s problems weren’t caused by the credit crisis, Dutch Finance Minister Wouter Bos said at a press conference in Amsterdam, adding he has no concerns about other Dutch banks.
More at Link...

Now...who says Eastern Europe isn't stressin' some one?
(Think Latvia & ...)

[edit on 10/13/2009 by Hx3_1963]



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