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The "up-to-the-minute Market Data" thread

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posted on Oct, 1 2009 @ 11:04 PM
It's been keenly observed that NIKKEI amplifies NYSE, and it would be interesting to see if the Japanese traders submerge their main index by full 3%. NIKKEI is around -2.5% at this time, so the chances are there.

It's been keenly observed by the world traders that if they sacrifice each October some of the share prices and offer them to Southern Release, the god responsible for the October 1987 sudden market crash, then the first half of the next year is serene, and Southern Release leaves the world indexes alone. So that's why the October markets experience these slips.

posted on Oct, 1 2009 @ 11:26 PM

Well the main stream media isnt about to tell the general public that CIT Group Inc. is in talks to borrow $4 billion to $6 billion that could be used as secured funds if its restructuring plan succeeds, or used as financing to see the company through a bankruptcy ... To many people lying there butts off and only now are people waking up

It funny....I've seen this pattern before. a company considering of filing for bankruptcy, stock holders flee, stocks drops to pennies on the dollar, company or someone in the company buys back all the shares, typical.....

Of course they are going to get bailed out, it's "to big to fail".......then i'm thinking "Who" will buy up all the stocks for pennies on the dollar if not CIT..... then WHO....the FEDS?, that would explain why the FEDs has not infused CIT yet.

posted on Oct, 1 2009 @ 11:29 PM
reply to post by Hx3_1963

Fair Value is : Cash SP500 [1+r (x/360)] - Dividends (to exp. of futures)

x = days to expiration

r= interest rate


[edit on 1-10-2009 by GreenBicMan]

posted on Oct, 1 2009 @ 11:52 PM
reply to post by GreenBicMan
Good One!!!

Now..."Show me the Money!!!"

Where's that line in the sand fer tomorrow!

50 EMA?

Hang Seng 20,469.29 12:36AM ET Down 485.96 (2.32%)
Nikkei 225 9,746.67 12:31AM ET Down 231.97 (2.32%)

[edit on 10/1/2009 by Hx3_1963]

posted on Oct, 2 2009 @ 01:08 AM
Aah, the Trickster is here. Wonder what is it this time . . .

Originally posted by Hx3_1963
50 EMA?

Ummmm . . . No, its the other way around: 50 AME.

Oooh, can you see? Fifty stars, lalalalaaaaaaaaaaa . . .

50 united states of AMErica.

we've built a racetrack in out town
where everything is upside down
let's begin the truth for quest
finish last and you're the best

laalalaaaaaa . . .

NIKKEI got two hours to go, but it doesn't look that the index will lose 3% of its value today. Maybe some other day . . .

posted on Oct, 2 2009 @ 01:25 AM
Nikkei 225 9,731.87 2:00AM ET Down 246.77 (2.47%)

Good call...not good, but...

European stock index futures point to weaker start

LONDON, Oct 2 (Reuters) - European stock index futures pointed to a fall in equities on Friday, with investors awaiting U.S. non-farm payrolls data later in the session for near-term market direction.

At 0603 GMT, futures for the Eurostoxx 50 STXEc1, Germany's DAX FDXc1 and the French CAC 40 FCEc1 were down between 0.8 percent and 1.1 percent.

On Thursday, the FTSEurofirst 300 .FTEU3 index of top European shares ended 1.6 percent lower at 981.70 points, the lowest closing level in three weeks.

posted on Oct, 2 2009 @ 05:32 AM
Today is a critical day for the Dow: its performance tells us whether it divorces itself from the pattern of recovery set in August and September. Another loss above 0.5% would indicate a break up with the recent past, but if the Dow shows a gain above 0.5%, the 10k mark could be only fourteen trading days away. If the index finishes within the -0.5% to 0.5% interval, then the 10k mark would be reached later, probably in November. If the Dow shows another loss around 1% or even above, then the 10k festivities could be delayed indeterminably.

There is an interesting projection based on the oil/Dow deferred correlation, and it says -- in a rather quiet voice, though -- that the Dow could gain more than 100 points today. That would make some folks on the floor seasick, I guess.

~ doritos! ~

posted on Oct, 2 2009 @ 06:49 AM
reply to post by stander

How can
anybody make predictions with the US markets when the Fed keeps bailing them out, when money is move around and under the table and everything seems to be nothing but deceptions.

I don't get it, you know, is all an illusion.

BTW what in the hell is wrong with JP morgan and Cit? more bailouts?.

[edit on 2-10-2009 by marg6043]

posted on Oct, 2 2009 @ 06:53 AM
Here comes the big heads to tell us what is wrong with the Markets.

Double-Dip Recession Still in Frame: Strauss-Kahn

The possibility of a double-dip recession is still there although it is not the main scenario envisaged by the International Monetary Fund and governments should not rush to exit economic stimulus packages, IMF Managing Director Dominique Strauss-Kahn told CNBC Friday.

Current DateTime: 03:30:19 02 Oct 2009
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US Jobless Rate May Hit 10%Second Credit Crunch Coming?Where Jim Rogers Would Put $1 MillionTrading With the Experts

The global economy is recovering but unemployment usually lags recoveries by 10 months if not more and "we shouldn't be too optimistic," Strauss-Kahn told "Worldwide Exchange."

Is the unemployment dummies

posted on Oct, 2 2009 @ 06:55 AM
Cit "needs" and infusion and so BofA and JP Morgan

CIT [CIT 1.06 -0.15 (-12.4%) ] launched on Thursday a debt-exchange plan that the struggling lender to small and mid-sized companies hopes will prevent it from filing for bankruptcy.

Hurry up Obama get those infusions of bailout ready once again or the Markets will crash.

posted on Oct, 2 2009 @ 08:20 AM
Things could get real bad real soon if the market does another nose dive...

The FDIC is ready to close the 100th bank of the year. nearly 500 more banks are on the edge and because of that the FDIC wants all banks to pay all fee's up to 2012 to cover an expected 100 billion loss...

then we hear CIT is in talks to raise up to 6 billion, just in case the have to file chapter 11... BofA has started to close "Less productive" branches across the country too...

to add to those woes 15.1 million Americans are now out of work, the department said. And more than 7.2 million jobs have been eliminated since the recession began in December 2007. thanks to congresses failure to pass the unemployment bill every week that passes some one million of those folks will be dropped from those roles leaving huge numbers of out of work unemployed out in the cold.

As if that wasn't scary enough as you read this there some one million homes ready to be foreclosed upon, that number is only slightly up from last month. a government study found that more than half the people who had their loans modified still default and in some cases those loan modifications only resulted in homeowners being stuck with higher payments.

Main stream media may have been cheering a turnaround but it's all smoke and mirrors... now that investors are waking up to reality we should see a major drop in the markets. we can only hope its not to big that it makes things even worse

[edit on 2-10-2009 by DaddyBare]

posted on Oct, 2 2009 @ 10:07 AM
Anyone else watching these wild swings???
sure looks like TPTB are trying to shore up the markets... again...

Also sad to read that today's big mover is CIT climbing 15 percent to a whopping one dollar twenty two cents per share

posted on Oct, 2 2009 @ 10:18 AM
Anyone know when the FDIC announces the bank failures today?

I've checked the site and it hasn't been updated yet.

FDIC Failed Bank List

posted on Oct, 2 2009 @ 10:20 AM
reply to post by DaddyBare

Yeah I got a intraday chart going.

Another one of those 'seizure' days.

posted on Oct, 2 2009 @ 10:48 AM
reply to post by DaddyBare

Well perhaps this show what is going on,

CIT Exchange To Give Debtholders 93 Percent of Firm

The plan offers bondholders new debt in the company as well. Investors holding notes maturing in 2009 would get more new debt than those holding debt maturing between 2013 and 2018.

The company is also looking for votes for a prepackaged bankruptcy, should the exchange offer prove unsuccessful. Under the terms outlined on Friday, most debtholders would get 70 cents of new debt on the dollar, plus new common stock.

posted on Oct, 2 2009 @ 10:52 AM

Originally posted by Hx3_1963
reply to post by GreenBicMan
Good One!!!

Now..."Show me the Money!!!"

Where's that line in the sand fer tomorrow!

50 EMA?

Hang Seng 20,469.29 12:36AM ET Down 485.96 (2.32%)
Nikkei 225 9,746.67 12:31AM ET Down 231.97 (2.32%)

[edit on 10/1/2009 by Hx3_1963]

Interesting you said that, looks like it was for the time being...

As I said, that dragon pattern shows high volatility almost 100% of the time, so watch your back and wear your shank vest

[edit on 2-10-2009 by GreenBicMan]

posted on Oct, 2 2009 @ 10:58 AM
Well Retailers to keep employees through the holidays with not hiring but offering present employees longer hours of work.

Toys R Us will be doing some hiring about 30,000 nation wide for the holidays.

That will sure bring tears of joy to many seasonal workers and to the government numbers so they can claim again that unemployment is slowing down at least for one month in December.

Did Bernanke made that late night deposit to stop a downfall in the Markets today? I wonder

posted on Oct, 2 2009 @ 11:20 AM
reply to post by lucentenigma
FDIC Friday usually starts after Market not to scare the traders...5 pm est till around 9 pm est...

On a FDIC "Hot Potato" Friday it could start earlier and/or last later...

Banks With 20% Unpaid Loans at 18-Year High Amid Recovery Doubt

Nigeria's Central Bank Fires Three Bank Chiefs and Injects $1.4 Billion

[edit on 10/2/2009 by Hx3_1963]

posted on Oct, 2 2009 @ 12:48 PM
It looks that the Dow recovery based on the August and September template is kicking in. The traders who call the shots don't like to fix something that works, like anyone else -- as the high-volume morning buybacks indicate. And so the Dow is very unlikely to dip below 9.4k for the next 14 trading days when another re-evaluation takes place. But we need to see the result of another trading day to be sure.

The market analysts need to recover from the shock received by seeing the value of their houses adjusting themselves to look more realistically over the past year -- a shock that probably causes the utter vagueness of their comments.

[edit on 10/2/2009 by stander]

posted on Oct, 2 2009 @ 04:05 PM

5:20 pm est and no Flaming Banks yet...

Is FDIC to broke to act now???

Great... :shk:

Ding...Ding...Ding...we have a Winner at 6:05 pm est...

Failed Bank List

Warren Bank Warren MI 34824 October 2, 2009

The FDIC estimates that the cost to the Deposit Insurance Fund (DIF) will be $275 million.

Warren Bank is the 96th FDIC-insured institution to fail in the nation this year, and the second in Michigan. The last FDIC-insured institution closed in the state was Michigan Heritage Bank, Farmington Hills, on April 24, 2009.

[edit on 10/2/2009 by Hx3_1963]

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