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The "up-to-the-minute Market Data" thread

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posted on Sep, 18 2009 @ 12:11 PM
Hm. When it comes to milking the cow, don't forget that cow has to eat something, and that something is the production of real stuff. But someone has grazed the grass, and skimmed the milk and cow has become a virtual cow...

Ghost market yields ghost profit. The inflation is still represented by this market and it is not going up, only the numbers are going up, and real cow can't graze numbers...

There will be more bailouts, and since more taxes won't work, there will be inflated dollar very soon. And that's where the virtual business will bloom again. Because people will have to sell their real wealth for denominated dollars. Guess who's gonna profit. I've seen this before.

posted on Sep, 18 2009 @ 01:01 PM
reply to post by stander

central computer receiving orders from around the world through the Internet. Like Hotmail

So as far as I know we are still talking about staying within the speed limits defined by relativity, which explains why a program algo would be a little retarded. So what you are really proposing is a secure connection with little chance of a MITM attack? Guess I need to stop reading Nietze and go reread cryptonomicon.

Your search - CRFE - did not match any documents.


* Make sure all words are spelled correctly.
* Try different keywords.
* Try more general keywords.

[edit on 18-9-2009 by fromunclexcommunicate]

posted on Sep, 18 2009 @ 07:27 PM
I want to officially apologize for my rude outburst to GBM...

That was going to far and I wish I could take it back, but, alas the edit button is mouth...insert foot...

He has done a good job with his analysis and charting...he seems to be in sync with the current trader mentality...unlike an emotional me...

As someone stated...I'm majorly frustrated that Wall St lives in the land of OZ and so far "Dorthy" can't wake from her cash induced coma...maybe she will wake up on the farm and everything will be Hunky-Dorey...

My apologizes to all...

Failed Bank List

Irwin Union Bank, F.S.B. Louisville KY 57068 September 18, 2009

Irwin Union Bank and Trust Company Columbus IN 10100 September 18, 2009

The FDIC estimates that the cost to the Deposit Insurance Fund (DIF) for both institutions will be $850 million.

[edit on 9/18/2009 by Hx3_1963]

posted on Sep, 18 2009 @ 08:45 PM
The linear projection based on critical points is an interesting subject.

It's true that the mornings have had higher volatility than the afternoons, and so the critical points are likely to materialize there.

But the these points have their own velocity, and so there are weak critical and strong critical points. These points are similar to the inflection points from geometry -- but in on the Dow curve, they are mostly easy to spot. The difference between geometrical inflection points and the critical points on the Dow curve is that the latter case is multidimensional -- a parameter, like the volume bellow the point, modifies the character of the point. Sometimes there are too many points that qualify for being called that way; sometimes there are only a few, which is the preferable instance.

The evidence that these points do exist and can survive under different conditions is bellow.

What creates these points is Reason. If they are not created by reason, then they likely materialized as a result of random variability and are no good as a tool to make a projection with.

(The yellow points are the two lowest points on the curve. The intersecting line runs almost parallel with the projection line defined by other two critical points. But most often there is no clear boundary between the top and the bottom, like in this case.)

posted on Sep, 18 2009 @ 09:12 PM

Originally posted by fromunclexcommunicate
Your search - CRFE - did not match any documents.


* Make sure all words are spelled correctly.
* Try different keywords.
* Try more general keywords.

That's because CRFE is a very esoteric subject -- it stands for Cryogenic Receiver Front-End and the topic doesn't relate to football by any means. It does relate to superconductivity, but in the context of things, cryogenics is a way to preserve biochemical life-forms under low temperatures for the reason that when the medical science advances enough, the lifeform can be brought back to life. And so the only way to make sh-tload of money with the help of your semi-direct PC_ NYSE connection is to have your butt freeze, and when the links are in place around 2158 AD, have it unfreeze.

posted on Sep, 20 2009 @ 07:04 AM
This is getting good isn't it?

Can we rally right down to the finish line, end of September?

That is what I think.

Rally for Ramadan!
Rally for Rosh Hashanah!
Rally for THX-1138!

Bring back the green kid!


posted on Sep, 20 2009 @ 08:29 AM
Let the Protectionism begin!

Spanish protest against Magna over Opel

MADRID, Sept 19 (Reuters) - Thousands of people marched through the streets of Zaragoza in northeast Spain on Saturday to protest against Canada's Magna (MGa.TO) acquiring 55 percent of General Motors' [GM.UL] Opel, Spanish media reported.

Talks between European unions and representatives from General Motors and Magna are due to start next week over plans to cut some 10,000 jobs at Opel in Europe.

posted on Sep, 20 2009 @ 12:28 PM
The Option-ARM and Alt-A reset waves have already begun, which will make subprime look like a picnic. Then there's Basel III compliance:

September 30th is the date all banks worldwide must become Basel II and Basel III compliant. Those who do not will not be allowed to trade outside of their borders with any bank, nor within their borders with a Basel II or III bank. US banks have massive derivative exposure “off balance sheet”, thus they won’t qualify under Basel III. If pursued the world will find out that the US banking system is bankrupt. The world knows the Fed is the lender of last resort and its problems are beyond repair, so is it any wonder gold has broken out to new highs. This is a monumental event and if it has to be adhered too all hell will brake loose in October.

I hear the fat lady tuning her voice in the background.

posted on Sep, 20 2009 @ 08:29 PM
Global bank regulator urges caution
By Patrick Jenkins in London

Published: September 21 2009 03:00 | Last updated: September 21 2009 03:00

The head of the body that oversees global banking regulation has issued a stern warning that the world cannot afford to slip into a "complacent" assumption that the financial sector has rebounded for good.

Speaking ahead of this week's G20 meeting in Pittsburgh - when the world's leading politicians will seek to define a common direction for the future control of the sector - Jaime Caruana, general manager of the Bank for International Settlements and a former governor of Spain's central bank, said the recent market rebound should not be misinterpreted.

"It is not the right time for complacency," Mr Caruana told the Financial Times.

rest of the story here

posted on Sep, 20 2009 @ 08:54 PM
reply to post by TrainDispatcher

The timing on Basel II does seem suspect considering that the BIS aka One World Bank does know how to put 'hits' on financials. He seems to being engaging in double speak with 'we'll calibrate capital requirements' and then at the end 'living wills' for winding down systemically important banks.

My personal opinion is that they want the US taken out of the number one spot so they can more easily control maybe 4 smaller entities with themselves as the World Bank Reserve Currency.
With JPMorgan and Government Sachs holding tens of Trillions in Derivitaves, Basel III is enough to accomplish it.

posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 01:10 AM

Originally posted by stander
And so the only way to make sh-tload of money with the help of your semi-direct PC_ NYSE connection is to have your butt freeze, and when the links are in place around 2158 AD, have it unfreeze.

Yaaawn . . .
What time is it?

It's 2158 AD.

Alright!!! Let's make some bubbles -- lots of them -- and send that life on its way.

[edit on 9/21/2009 by stander]

posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 03:30 AM

9758.2 9669.0 -89.20
1063.7 1052.7 -11.00

Gold $1000.50

FTSE 100 5,123.67 5:42AM ET Down 40.28 (0.78%)
CAC 40 3,796.6299 5:42AM ET Down 31.21 (0.82%)
DAX 5,620.68 5:42AM ET Down 83.15 (1.46%)

[edit on 9/21/2009 by Hx3_1963]

posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 05:42 AM
The dollar index is headed back up ahead of the G20 meeting in Pittsburgh. That should give the equities markets a good pullback.

No real reason for the G20 to do anything drastic to support the US dollar yet, but the meeting is a good excuse to go long on the dollar. As the late GBM explained the us dollar was testing the bottom of its trading range and was becoming oversold.

posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 07:37 AM

Originally posted by fromunclexcommunicate
The dollar index is headed back up ahead of the G20 meeting in Pittsburgh. That should give the equities markets a good pullback.

All those attendees who gather at the G7 and G20 meetings are lunatics.

Why do you think that they are crazy?

I didn't say they are crazy; I said that they are lunatics.

?________G 7
?________G 20

Hmm... Nope.

The lunatic is on the grass, the lunatic is on the grass ...

Hmmmm . . . Nope.

See you on the dark side of the moon...

armstronG 7
armstronG 20

Deny ignorance!

Oh, you mean the gatherings are affecting the market like the moon affects the tide in the oceans?

[edit on 9/21/2009 by stander]

posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 07:41 AM
reply to post by Hx3_1963

You bad, bad person.

we all get frustrated some times, GBM is harmless and actually I love his fresh and hopeful outlook of things in life and the markets.

He will forgive you as he is such a forgiving person that is why I like him so much.

BTW I am just kidding when I said "bad person"

posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 09:33 AM
It's not easy to keep up with all the jargons and acronyms to the words that no one can even pronounce -- words coined to disguise the real meaning of mostly dubious activities of the financial word:

The drive for Dow 10,000 hit a bump on the road Monday as investors took a breather, sending stocks down more than half a percent at the opening bell.

A breather?
What's wrong with the word "money"?

For how long will that "breather" last?
It all depends on the "investors" when they decide on buybacks. They usually make these decisions before going to lunch according to recent EAS data.

(EAS = "Etch A Sketch" --> DJIA = "Dow Jones Industrial Average")

posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 09:48 AM
Mortgage Delinquencies Rise Alongside Unemployment

House Moves to Extend Unemployment Benefits

Another day in Americas economic saga.

posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 10:03 AM
OK, This was the first I had ever heard of a Bassel anything. So I looked it up and saw things like the Federal Reserve is not Basel III ready and what that means. I dont exactly understand what that means and if they were actually serious. Is the world really saying that we have to go back to currency that states that it is gold backed or else that currency is no longer worth anything?

Im confused.

posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 10:08 AM
Well I did some digging and this is serious,

The plan is for the Federal Reserve to be terminated by the end of the present U.S. Government's fiscal year of September 30, 2009. Any bank not having a gold charter and not compliant with Basal III will be closed.

I don't know if is true.

posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 10:11 AM
All I know is that the debt ceiling needs to be raised, but America deficit is out of hand so how can the government keep working if the debt deficit is not raised as the government intend to do and has been warn by the Fed and the treasury secretary.

U.S. to Hit Debt Ceiling- Again

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