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posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 09:59 PM
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Originally posted by GreenBicMan
F and GM, BAC, what plays were out there at one time.. i tried to tell everyone i could on here - although not ford really

point being, my post was about knowing the dollar is falling, so I dont care because I know to go long the inverse of that


Well I traded Ford not this March, I traded it the FIRST time GM was asking for the bail outs...you know when the private plane issue came up with congress and Bush was in office? That is when I traded Ford. Unfortunately I really didn't buy much in March. I did however buy BAC after they announced a suspension on M2M accounting, but didn't hold it nearly as long as I should have.




posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 10:01 PM
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Here is a conspiracy that links to yours.


My guess was last year that the "spec's" GS and friends - were doing that to see JUST HOW FAR THEY COULD PUSH IT before civil war in the USA..

I think they found it.. about 5.00 a gallon - and I think we will see that again when "they want to"



posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 10:02 PM
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Originally posted by GreenBicMan
F and GM, BAC, what plays were out there at one time.. i tried to tell everyone i could on here - although not ford really

point being, my post was about knowing the dollar is falling, so I dont care because I know to go long the inverse of that


Well I traded Ford not this March, I traded it the FIRST time GM was asking for the bail outs...you know when the private plane issue came up with congress and Bush was in office? That is when I traded Ford. Unfortunately I really didn't buy much in March. I did however buy BAC after they announced a suspension on M2M accounting, but didn't hold it nearly as long as I should have.



posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 10:03 PM
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Im guessing you made some dough on that bird

BAC was so overkill - same as C though - IMO - and from what I have heard - (which links to our convo) they have been making a killing on currency exchange and will keep this up for quite a while - also hear they are auctioning off the govt's stake or something but i havent read into it



posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 10:05 PM
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Originally posted by GreenBicMan
reply to post by RetinoidReceptor
 


Here is a conspiracy that links to yours.


My guess was last year that the "spec's" GS and friends - were doing that to see JUST HOW FAR THEY COULD PUSH IT before civil war in the USA..

I think they found it.. about 5.00 a gallon - and I think we will see that again when "they want to"


Why would they want to see how long it would take to create a civil war...? Also, you must understand that GS and friends could not have increased oil to that degree without the government either being in on it or purposely turning a blind eye to it. The CFTC could have said, "Oh we are limiting the amount of contracts you can hold on the long position now". That, in itself, would have cratered oil.

And I cannot believe these people got bail outs afterwards. I am telling you, I should have been valedictorian in high school with 1500SAT's and gone to Harvard and majored in History to become a hedge fund manager for GS. I chose the WRONG path



posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 10:08 PM
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GS and friends = govt. sorry should have clarified

and why? - bc, why not?

edit: let me clarify that

now "they" know that they can push gas to 3.50 a gallon and we have been "conditioned" for that

something similar to psych. behavior

[edit on 16-9-2009 by GreenBicMan]



posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 10:10 PM
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Originally posted by RetinoidReceptor
Where does your son go to college and what is he majoring in?


Southeastern Louisiana University

Major in Computer Systems Engineering (I think lol) minoring in Business, but already considering switching majors and minors


Real Proud of him, he managed to win scholarships that covered all but $2K of his 1st yr tuition and costs.



posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 10:11 PM
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Originally posted by GreenBicMan


GS and friends = govt. sorry should have clarified

and why? - bc, why not?


Just so they can jack off to the realization that they have all this power of us minions? I didn't know the government was into that kinky stuff.



posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 10:11 PM
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i edited my post


Example:

1. Rumsfield lost 1 Billion dollars? No big deal lets jack up oil and short the hell out of it afterwards to cover that up

2. pay off black ops for 9-11? No big deal, just bring oil to 140 a barrel and go long at 70, that gives us enough to pay those scientists enough and any "eye witnesses" to say whatever we need them to in the future

To me it all adds up

[edit on 16-9-2009 by GreenBicMan]



posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 10:17 PM
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Originally posted by redhatty

Southeastern Louisiana University

Major in Computer Systems Engineering (I think lol) minoring in Business, but already considering switching majors and minors


Real Proud of him, he managed to win scholarships that covered all but $2K of his 1st yr tuition and costs.


Oh good for him...I think I used to cut myself over C++...I HATE computer stuff. Unless I can learn to hack into things. I mean just the process, not the mechanisms behind it...

Yeah, I think everyone switches their majors/minors. Everytime I switched mine I hated it the same, so I concluded I would hate anything and everything so I stuck to accounting and math. I am still taking accounting classes for that damned cpa exam...



posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 10:18 PM
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Why wouldn't they just print the money? Besides, isn't that what the drug trade is for? So they can make money for their black ops?



posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 10:20 PM
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#iostream.h
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c in> need to program automated trading system

c out> should have stayed in school
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]

[edit on 16-9-2009 by GreenBicMan]



posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 10:22 PM
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I think we always have had printing presses rolling and drug trade prob amts to 50% at least yes.. but do you think drug trade could pay for all of 9/11 and future upcoming bigger "catastrophies" committed by the 110 year old OBL?



posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 10:34 PM
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Originally posted by GreenBicMan
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I think we always have had printing presses rolling and drug trade prob amts to 50% at least yes.. but do you think drug trade could pay for all of 9/11 and future upcoming bigger "catastrophies" committed by the 110 year old OBL?


Wow I cannot believe I am reading what I am reading. Mr. Technicals and markets are efficient is actually saying the government manipulates the markets and makes it its own ATM...



posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 10:35 PM
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Which brings me to another point.

During my LHVA class that I had to take (florida makes you) I was talking to the instructor about 9/11 and insurance claims

Now, normally, the insurance company would launch a HUGE investigation even into a single murder for an insurance claim (thats just 1 person remember)

Think about how many lives were taken and how much $$$ in insurance were on those buildings.

Instructor said the USA TOLD the insurance companies ranging from all aspects to avoid investigation and issue the sums of money

You cannot tell me 9/11 wasn't setup (not talking to you in this instance, just stating a point)



posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 10:36 PM
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tech's dont tell you everything, they just point you in the right direction, as evidence I am wrong about 40% of the time, its just that I know when to get out better than most that makes me more profitable in the longrun "in theory"



posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 10:38 PM
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I honestly don't know what to believe anymore. But I am glad a lot of people are coming to realize that Big Brother isn't the government of Thomas Jefferson, but it intrudes into everything. From the stock market to the news to what we put in our bodies. Maybe I will work for the CIA...



posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 10:39 PM
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Originally posted by RetinoidReceptor
I am telling you, I should have been valedictorian in high school with 1500SAT's and gone to Harvard and majored in History to become a hedge fund manager for GS...

...or to become an edge fun manager for NBC Network handling Jay Leno and other "ass ETs."


The way CPI is computed resembles the "informative" average taken from two values: (2+1000)/2=501, but that 501 doesn't really exist in reality -- only 2 and 1000. The folks on Social Security have a different spending habits than 35-year-old "edge fun" manager. But the corrupt government statisticians use vastly generalized CPI and apply it to anyone. In this case the annual increase in Social Security checks due to inflation is not happening. But the senior folks have been faced with an increase in prices of goods that they buy most frequently. The gas is heading for $5 retail, which will send food higher still, coz the food prices didn't join the price of oil when it took a trip to Down the last year.


[edit on 9/16/2009 by stander]



posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 10:41 PM
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Originally posted by RetinoidReceptor
Oh good for him...I think I used to cut myself over C++...I HATE computer stuff. Unless I can learn to hack into things. I mean just the process, not the mechanisms behind it...

Yeah, I think everyone switches their majors/minors. Everytime I switched mine I hated it the same, so I concluded I would hate anything and everything so I stuck to accounting and math. I am still taking accounting classes for that damned cpa exam...


So far he's loving Java, which could be a good thing in the end


He did a boatload of accounting courses via U of Phoenix after he finished his "grade school". He was homeschooled, so after the GED & ACT/SAT stuff, I had him stay schooling until he decided where to go to college "for real"

Kid's always been a math whiz, but he was humbled very quickly with a 1st test in Coll Algebra that was almost exclusively quadratic equations LOL

He needed the humbling, it's made him focus even harder



posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 10:42 PM
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Reminds me of the south park where they think Cartman is a robot (awesomo-5000) and he keeps coming up with new Adam Sandler stupid movies to make cash

"Night of a Thousand $hits" I believe is the title, you can watch it free on southparkstudios.com, its hilarious



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