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posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 04:21 PM
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Schapiro said any proposal to ban the transactions would require approval from SEC commissioners and public comment. SEC rulemaking is usually a two-step process. The agency’s staff proposes a regulation, and commissioners vote to solicit public feedback for between 30 and 90 days.


Who is the "public?" Randomly chosen individuals? Do they pick them the way jurors are assembled?


“These issues are very complex and not widely understood,” said Lawrence Harris, a former SEC chief economist who is now a business professor at the University of Southern California in Los Angeles.


I think we are moving rapidly away from the "For the people, by the people," coz "the people" have increasingly hard time to figure out all the hi-tech schemes running in the background.


Exchange give information to their clients about orders for a fraction of a second before the trades are routed to rival platforms. The technique is meant to give investors another opportunity to complete a transaction.


A fraction of a second advantage?
Phew. Here, in this thread, we have the whole session in the bag before the lunch. Right, Greeny?




posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 05:18 PM
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LOL Stander. Yeah we'll see what happens with the TALK.

Seen questions here that the Ticker Guy answers quite well today.

Strongly recommend reading Money Management: The Key To Survival

And if you don't know what any of the terms are in that ticker, you got some studying to do BEFORE you start trading!



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 05:52 PM
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Still In Bear Flag Past 4 Days Now....

It keeps coming back...

NASDAQ is out of control this year and I am going to pull up some charts that I think that will look identical to whats happening right now if I remember right...

No use in even going the other way..

Our 60 minute chart is rediculous

233 tick still resistance on old support

[edit on 4-8-2009 by GreenBicMan]



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 05:57 PM
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I also think these two moves are pretty identical

So potentially we move a few % points higher if this is the case before anything really comes back..

Its a pretty interesting time right now

here



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 06:01 PM
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Actually I just spin in a chair with my head to my shoulder for 10 minutes when I wake up then drink 2 glasses of orange juice and hit a volcano.

No big deal really, but few things in life give you vision like sitting in a cow pasture for 3 hours with your eyes closed listening to dark side of the moon.



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 06:54 PM
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I think that it was more or less a matter of luck that I came close within 0.05% of the Close Value to the actual Close = 9320. I did some alchemy on the pre-lunch data and projected the Close at 9317. You were bearish as well with your call 1001 on SP500.

But I learned where the crucial point is: it's about 3:50pm where the high volume comes back and starts to f-ck with the curve. You need to know where the curve would be at about 3:50 and how it got there. This is hard to tell before 1pm. This is similar to betting on horses: you need to know where your horse is likely to be at the quarter pole and other calls throughout the race.

Note that for the second time in two weeks, the Close Point was the same as the Max Point of the entire session.



I try to figure out what would be the Min Point tomorrow between 9:30 and 10:00 when the volume is high again. If the traders didn't leave the Max Point alone and started to take from the piggy bank, then the Close Point, which is identical to the Max Point, should be the Sell Point as well.

I wonder why they don't do mass selling to bring the index down to 8,700 or so. Any idea?



[edit on 8/4/2009 by stander]



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 06:57 PM
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I think a lot of big NASDAQ names are just being chased. I mean...some of them were obviously too beaten down, like AAPL. But they had an almost parabolic rise, and now AAPL is something like 13% of the NASDAQ 100, so if that stock goes down it can take the rest of the market with it.



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 07:17 PM
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I wonder why they don't do mass selling to bring the index down to 8,700 or so. Any idea?


Its a less schizophrenic market if it trends strongly either up or down without fighting over tops and bottoms. I'm a bear based on the lack of fundamentals so I'm not comfortable jumping in and going long after a 1200 point run up. That still doesn't mean I think I can pick the trend reversal until it happens.

I'm sure a lot of other people that would normally be short selling this market are standing aside and letting the bull trend completely run itself out. The more overbought we can get the market the more worthwhile it will be to short on a pullback.



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 09:08 PM
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Originally posted by fromunclexcommunicate



I wonder why they don't do mass selling to bring the index down to 8,700 or so. Any idea?


Its a less schizophrenic market if it trends strongly either up or down without fighting over tops and bottoms. I'm a bear based on the lack of fundamentals so I'm not comfortable jumping in and going long after a 1200 point run up. That still doesn't mean I think I can pick the trend reversal until it happens.

I'm sure a lot of other people that would normally be short selling this market are standing aside and letting the bull trend completely run itself out. The more overbought we can get the market the more worthwhile it will be to short on a pullback.

Aha.

I thought that there is this naive scenario that prevents a major profit taking: If you want to sell, there must be someone willing to buy at a price. If you plan on buying your loot back at a "discount" price, the price should get there. But if someone buys you stock and sits on it, then the price wouldn't move farther down.

Is there any way to create a bogus sell off, like a few guys starting to sell and buy and sell again to create a feeling that something is wrong and let the outsiders dump their shares as well and when all is sitting nicely on its ass to buy it back at the discount?



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 10:47 PM
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Yeah, that bogus sell-off happens every morning from 945-952 AM EST lol



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 10:49 PM
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The end of the day is so dangerous when all those leveraged ETF's start dumping or accumulating SPY contracts and all that... looks like today something like that happened as we "jumped" to the top of the resistance.. I wasnt there though



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 12:20 AM
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Originally posted by GreenBicMan
Still In Bear Flag Past 4 Days Now....

It keeps coming back...

NASDAQ is out of control this year and I am going to pull up some charts that I think that will look identical to whats happening right now if I remember right...

No use in even going the other way..

Our 60 minute chart is rediculous

233 tick still resistance on old support

[edit on 4-8-2009 by GreenBicMan]



update



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 12:37 AM
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Originally posted by GreenBicMan

Originally posted by GreenBicMan
Still In Bear Flag Past 4 Days Now....

It keeps coming back...

NASDAQ is out of control this year and I am going to pull up some charts that I think that will look identical to whats happening right now if I remember right...

No use in even going the other way..

Our 60 minute chart is rediculous

233 tick still resistance on old support

[edit on 4-8-2009 by GreenBicMan]



update


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posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 12:51 AM
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Looks like yer stairway is getting a little thin at the top end...?

finance.yahoo.com...

^AORD All Ordinaries 4,283.70 1:29AM ET Down 30.20 (0.70%)
^SSEC Shanghai Composite 3,420.40 1:34AM ET Down 51.04 (1.47%)
^HSI Hang Seng 20,757.54 1:34AM ET Down 38.89 (0.19%) Chart, More
^BSESN BSE 30 15,814.50 1:39AM ET Down 16.48 (0.10%)
^JKSE Jakarta Composite 2,332.64 12:59AM ET Down 27.45 (1.16%)
^KLSE KLSE Composite 1,179.88 Aug 4 Up 8.57 (0.73%)
^N225 Nikkei 225 10,293.84 1:29AM ET Down 81.17 (0.78%)
^NZ50 NZSE 50 3,084.07 1:01AM ET Down 8.73 (0.28%)
^STI Straits Times 2,642.63 1:34AM ET Down 6.13 (0.23%)
^KS11 Seoul Composite 1,559.72 1:29AM ET Down 6.65 (0.42%)
^TWII Taiwan Weighted 6,844.54 1:29AM ET Down 111.33 (1.60%)

Gold $964.00

Oil $71.29

INDEX: DXY
www.marketwatch.com...

77.72

Change

-0.05 -0.06%

Aug 5, 2009 1:21 a.m.

[edit on 8/5/2009 by Hx3_1963]



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 12:58 AM
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*** My friends, I have had a vision. ***

Prophet Yahweh and I share a common bond now. Oh seer of Isreal!



But it is true I believe that things will unfold like this..

Been looking at a lot of bullish setups lately and this might be our path to enlightenment.

If this unfolds as such, I will summon a UFO for ATS.



The digital scramble in your ear should tell you that you have reached your limit



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 01:01 AM
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For future reference GBM, when you post charts you should post your interpretation of it and maybe explain what you are looking at since 99% of us aren't that skilled at technical analysis or we are too tired to try and decipher all the lines and squigly's
I have to get up in 4 hours for work see you all tomorrow, happy days



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 01:24 AM
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finance.yahoo.com...

^AORD All Ordinaries 4,275.40 2:03AM ET Down 38.50 (0.89%)
^SSEC Shanghai Composite 3,406.67 1:47AM ET Down 64.77 (1.87%)
^HSI Hang Seng 20,757.54 2:08AM ET Down 38.89 (0.19%)
^BSESN BSE 30 15,748.78 2:13AM ET Down 82.20 (0.52%)
^JKSE Jakarta Composite 2,332.64 12:59AM ET Down 27.45 (1.16%)
^KLSE KLSE Composite 1,179.88 Aug 4 Up 8.57 (0.73%)
^N225 Nikkei 225 10,252.53 1:42AM ET Down 122.48 (1.18%)
^NZ50 NZSE 50 3,084.07 1:32AM ET Down 8.73 (0.28%)
^STI Straits Times 2,624.76 2:23AM ET Down 24.00 (0.91%)
^KS11 Seoul Composite 1,559.47 1:42AM ET Down 6.90 (0.44%)
^TWII Taiwan Weighted 6,848.24 1:43AM ET Down 107.63 (1.55%)

Lloyds Posts $5.2 Billion First-Half Loss on Corporate, Real Estate Loans
www.bloomberg.com...

Societe Generale Earnings Fall 52% on Writedowns, Provisions for Bad Loans
www.bloomberg.com...

[edit on 8/5/2009 by Hx3_1963]



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 01:43 AM
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Just in: Lloyds Banking Group post a net loss of £3.124 billion ($5.3 billion) for the first half of the year.

That's sure to give us at least a +200 points!



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 01:44 AM
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Just an insight as to what is going on to keep things at a steady...
U.S. Dollar breach below 77. not if we can help it...


So the whole "business" day like this...U.S. Dollars chart 08-04-2009.
The behind the behind the scenes intervention has to be massive.



Timmy is swearing somewhere!


Benny looks unusually stressed




[edit on 5-8-2009 by burntheships]



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 01:46 AM
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Dollar short term is good going down..

Market likes that

It is not affecting anyone in the short term anyways unless you are vacationing in Italy this summer or something

If the dollar goes to 60 will you panic?



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