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posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 07:02 AM
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Originally posted by Maya00a

Originally posted by Hx3_1963
reply to post by GreenBicMan
 
Nice Charting, but, I was alluding to more of the current run up with 1928/29 charts vs 2008/2009...hmmm nice coincidence 80 yrs BTW...

Find one on the run up to "Chart" and compare...like the prior year to the crash...and compare...?

(yeah I *said* 6 months, but, guess that's a little to tight to see the run...)

[edit on 8/4/2009 by Hx3_1963]


Yesterday there was a chart posted over at Urban Survival regarding the S&P recent action compared to 1929/1930. Sorry but I haven't a clue how to post the chart here.

Seems the chart originally came from David Rosenberg, Chief Economist and Strategist with wealth management firm Gluskin/Sheff in Toronto.

Hopefully it's useful posting the link here and maybe someone that knows how can post it directly in the thread, if it is useful. If not, sorry for the intrusion - I stop by everyday to see what's being discussed in this thread. Love it and thanks for the effort you all put in.

Edit to add that I think it's a great idea to have a separate thread for "Market Speculation/Prediction/Trend"

[edit on 4-8-2009 by Maya00a]



I already tried making one a long time ago (thread) and the MODS moved it to belowtopsecret.com and no one goes there so I just left it be




posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 07:03 AM
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The pound has continued to gain against the dollar, rising above $1.70 for the first time since October on optimism about the UK economy.

Hmmm...imagine that...I wonder what happened when this last occurred?

And per CNBS...more "Better than Expected" but actual losses...


Now we're over-extend more to the up...but less...as we were over-extended more to the down earlier...K?


Market Speak for: Being as we priced our stock at a 99% discount...a 98% loss is a positive...
WTH?

Gruebel Says UBS Bracing for More Withdrawals After a Third Quarterly Loss
www.bloomberg.com...

[edit on 8/4/2009 by Hx3_1963]



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 07:10 AM
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Great Example of getting stuck under an EMA (50 IN BLUE) and a major support level..

Usually squeeze much lower when this happens..

Should be interesting today

here



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 07:14 AM
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Originally posted by GreenBicMan
Great Example of getting stuck under an EMA (50 IN BLUE) and a major support level..

Usually squeeze much lower when this happens..

Should be interesting today

here

Ok I'll "bite"...

Yer "line" is going straight to the moon, but, no...means a re-tracement?

Good thing yer good at making "lines" on a chart 'cause most don't reflect anything more to me than da gubbermint giving away free money to GS to play...



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 07:17 AM
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Originally posted by Hx3_1963

Originally posted by GreenBicMan
Great Example of getting stuck under an EMA (50 IN BLUE) and a major support level..

Usually squeeze much lower when this happens..

Should be interesting today

here

Ok I'll "bite"...

Yer "line" is going straight to the moon, but, no...means a re-tracement?

Good thing yer good at making "lines" on a chart 'cause most don't reflect anything more to me than da gubbermint giving away free money to GS to play...


Sure

Well that yellow line is nothing but support

if you go back a couple posts you will see some pretty strong support lines in blue

If we break that well everyone has an opinion on retracement..

Mine after that run now is bumped up to 96x levels (15 jump yesterday was shooting for 94x on the pullback) so give or take..

I have this all layed out on the posts before this with retracement levels on one of my charts



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 07:20 AM
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Alrighty then...

So 96 is good and 94 is bad?...what's this have to do with the price of Oil in Kentucky?

Do you even follow FX or earning reports?



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 07:23 AM
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I just magnified it a bit and made an annotation so its easier to see..

Lets see if this holds?

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2 chart look - that would be the next support yellow (the chart with the hot pink in it)

[edit on 4-8-2009 by GreenBicMan]



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 07:25 AM
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I think I have access to FX but it is not REALTIME so its basically worthless for an UP TO THE MINUTE thread, if it was the DELAYED 15 MIN THREAD I could prob. swing that haha

But I think SP500 realtime chart doesnt get anymore up to the minute in the markets bc its the most looked at worldwide pretty much so..

Nah, but like I said I dont really follow ind. stocks too much anymore just because I haven't been into that much lately with my other prog's



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 07:28 AM
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Hmmm...

Gold was falling down to $951...making a run now to $960...

And here's the DJIA making it's predictable up...

DJIA Futures 9242.56 9203.0 -39.56

EURO trending toward $1.44

GBP TRYING to hold mid $1.69's

FTSE 100 4,641.08 8:13AM ET Down 41.38 (0.88%)
CAC 40 3,452.58 8:28AM ET Down 25.22 (0.73%)
DAX 5,382.03 8:13AM ET Down 44.82 (0.83%)

Person income down 1.3%

Personal spending up .4%

[edit on 8/4/2009 by Hx3_1963]



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 07:28 AM
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Hx/GBM showdown. I missed the billboards. Got some popcorn, though.


FTSE 4641.98 -40.48 -0.86%

Source




[edit on 4/8/09 by pause4thought]



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 07:32 AM
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Originally posted by pause4thought
Hx/GBM showdown. I missed the billboards. Got some popcorn, though.


FTSE 4641.98 -40.48 -0.86%

Source

[edit on 4/8/09 by pause4thought]

Nah...no show downs...

Look at US just released income and spending #'s...+ Treasury is going to name names in the bad bank story now to shame them into truth


[edit on 8/4/2009 by Hx3_1963]



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 07:33 AM
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Originally posted by pause4thought
Hx/GBM showdown. I missed the billboards. Got some popcorn, though.


FTSE 4641.98 -40.48 -0.86%

Source




[edit on 4/8/09 by pause4thought]


Moving to a new timeslot, figured after Dancing With The Stars we could get more exposure?



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 07:39 AM
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Yep, this is prime time. So where do you think we're heading today (in words).


I won't hold you to it. I just suspect many folks find round figures easier to deal with than charts that are open to so many interpretations.

(Just trying to keep the discussion as clear and coherent as possible.)



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 07:42 AM
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Personal Incomes in U.S. Declined 1.3% in June, Biggest Drop in Four Years
Real consumer spending falls 0.1%, third drop in past four months
www.marketwatch.com...

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) - Personal incomes of U.S. residents fell 1.3% in June, reversing the 1.3% gain in May that was due to a one-time stimulus payment to Social Security recipients, the Commerce Department reported Tuesday.

Excluding the one-time payment in May, incomes fell 0.1% in June after a decline of less than 0.1% in May. Incomes are down this year despite the on-going prop to incomes from the stimulus, including tax credits and expanded unemployment benefits.

The monthly report released Tuesday expands on information released last Friday with the benchmark revision to gross domestic product. The revisions show that incomes, spending and savings were all modestly higher in 2007 and 2008 than previously reported.

The recession, however, has been deeper than previously reported. GDP is down 3.9% from its peak, the largest economic contraction in the post-World War II era.
More at Link...

[edit on 8/4/2009 by Hx3_1963]



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 07:47 AM
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FTSE 100 4,633.02 8:31AM ET Down 49.44 (1.06%)
CAC 40 3,453.63 8:46AM ET Down 24.17 (0.69%)
DAX 5,374.54 8:32AM ET Down 52.31 (0.96%)

Eeewww...


Stockholm General 269.00 8:46AM ET Down 4.74 (1.73%)



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 07:48 AM
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Its tough to keep everything in one spot when this thread moves so fast everything gets lost in the mix a little bit..

Trying to reedit and then go back etc..

Anyways - lower is my call again of course..

Lining up to at least see 991 on that one chart (with pink wedge) and just depends how far we break and with what velocity..

* here *



[edit on 4-8-2009 by GreenBicMan]



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 07:52 AM
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What was the est?

Cant find that



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 07:57 AM
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posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 07:59 AM
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Yepo...

And Becky Sick ends her Senate interview on CNBS with...

Thank You for inviting us into YOUR HOUSE...it's OUR HOUSE...they work for US!!!

DAMM...I thought our ancestors paid taxes and blood for that HOUSE they were sitting in...

And thanks???

WTH???

This should be standard operating procedure...we should all get a chance to question these "Rats"...


And...

Of the top 5 banks doing Mortgage Re-Fi's...the average is 9% !!!! TOTAL...of all 5...

WTH?!?


FTSE 100 4,629.22 8:51AM ET Down 53.24 (1.14%)
CAC 40 3,458.39 9:06AM ET Down 19.41 (0.56%)
DAX 5,381.78 8:51AM ET Down 45.07 (0.83%)

[edit on 8/4/2009 by Hx3_1963]



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 08:27 AM
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Looks like I am starting to bc worthless again..

Had the same streak for a few days like I said about a month ago

Would be smart to fade patterns the past couple days..

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We also had the 12% occurance day yesterday where VIX goes up and SP500 goes up



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