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Originally posted by GreenBicMan
reply to post by DangerDeath
Those are terrible things some of those men and woman did.
I think we can all agree on that.
I guess I am not sure as to what your point is though? That there is some sort of manipulation in this market at times? I agree. Do I think it is rampant? No, not at all. People do "get away with murder" though.. and I am sure these are the few that just got caught.
Just an observation, your continued cynicism and negativity is getting no one anywhere either at the same time. Too much bleakness and negativity isn't a way to live.
And that will be something a lot more personal than the famous "professional - nothing personal" agenda.
Originally posted by Hastobemoretolife
reply to post by GreenBicMan
Here ya go. Here is some interesting reading for you take back and soak in. I don't trade in the markets. Yes there is money to be made in the stock market, but it is not an indicator of the economy when the Treasury has a 700 billion dollar slush fund and a bank to buy what ever it is they would like too.
I'm not listening to the MSM, everybody on TV is saying we are going to have a recovery, apparently you do too. That isn't the case. You need to be watching the Bond Market.
We are in a process called Debt Deflation and it has been put off for decades. The last time we were in a period of Debt Deflation was the Great Depression. It isn't so much of when the economy is going to crash again it is only a matter of when.
America is a War economy, ever notice how since WWII we have had the Korean War, Vietnam War, Gulf War, we had intervention in Somalia, Bosnia, now we are in Afghanistan and Iraq.
I don't think you are getting the big picture. You are looking at the few trees in the front of the forest and you aren't noticing all the other trees behind it.
It's real simple, we can't not support our current spending, even if everyone was to give 100% income to the gov we cannot sustain the levels of spending we have.
The DIJA, NASDAQ, S&P, etc are nothing but false indicators. What was once could be a calculated investment, is now literally a big giant casino, where the house has 1000:1 odds of winning.
But hey, that is the truth, Ben Bernake and Paulson saw this coming years ago and went into inflation mode while claiming that they didn't know this was coming to CYA.
Continue to believe what you want to believe, but don't try to convince me that the economy is turning around and everything is hunky dorry just a long recession. All the info is there you are just refusing to see it.
And oil to me is just a trade. In fact a trade you can make quite a bit of $ on with the correct trading algorithm. I don't think its based on supply or demand, it has turned into a total trade. (price wise)