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posted on May, 23 2009 @ 02:27 AM
reply to post by Vitchilo
Hmmm...standard MSM responses...

Sounds like all the other reports we've been hearing, but, *I'd guess* they're probably getting ready for TSHTF Sit-x also...

Military to use Burton as a training ground for a week
The Flint Journal
Wednesday May 13, 2009, 7:15 AM

Citing safety and security concerns, the military is being mum on details about the exercises, including the size of the force being trained.

There's also no word on where exactly the operations will take place, although Potter said soldiers could be working in neighborhoods and industrial sites.
More at Links...

Military operation in Burton has some residents running for cover
The Flint Journal
Monday May 18, 2009, 6:51 AM

When Boggs' sister, Cassie Baumbach, asked the soldiers what they were doing she said she was met with silence.

"They ignored me," said Baumbach.

Boggs later found out the helicopters and soldiers were part of a week-long military training exercise in Burton but is upset that more wasn't done to alert residents.

An article about the training ran on the front page of The Journal on Wednesday but Boggs said she didn't see the report until she Googled it following the helicopter sighting.

She and Baumbach said the sound of helicopters terrified their three children.
"We thought the sky was falling," said Boggs.

Added Cassie: "It sounded like our whole house was going to lift off the ground."

The U.S. Special Operations Command is using Burton for a training mission that is expected to end this week.

A Naval spokesman has declined comment on specifics of the operation, including how many soldiers are in town. The purpose of the training in Burton is to prepare the soldiers for deployment overseas by placing them in an unfamiliar urban setting.

Gold $956.34
Oil $61.57

[edit on 5/23/2009 by Hx3_1963]

posted on May, 23 2009 @ 02:40 AM

The purpose of the training in Burton is to prepare the soldiers for deployment overseas by placing them in an unfamiliar urban setting.

Unfamiliar urban setting? What? Do Burton look unfamiliar? What's the difference between Burton and Detroit? Do Burton look like Afghanistan or Iraq or what?

Anyway, training for oversea combat is always the excuse used. Doesn't matter that on certain exercise, they trained to take ``militia guns`` with paid actors being raided saying they were americans...

Anyway the situation is like early 2008, same thing happening now. Calm before another storm.

[edit on 23-5-2009 by Vitchilo]

posted on May, 23 2009 @ 04:19 AM

Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to post by fromunclexcommunicate

It's a US holiday, the rest of the world will have to trade without us.

What is your three-day weekend homework?

You don't have a homework assignment?

Well, in that case I give you one.

Under GM's new capital structure, the government would forgive about $10 billion of its loans and get 50 percent of the company, and the United Auto Workers would own 39 percent for cutting in half the $20 billion GM owes to a union-run retiree health care trust.

1) Where will those dividents (if any) go to when the government has 50% stake in GM? Would they go to the White House to support the war efforts or would they go to the funds used to fix US infrastructure so a bridge wouldn't collapse under a new-improved GM cars?

2) Is GM a half-nationalized company? If so, then the first half of the name G stands for "Government." What would M then stand for?

posted on May, 23 2009 @ 05:06 AM
reply to post by stander

Military Complex!!!'s real easy if you imagine :shk:

*I'd imagine* also, that the 50% will go to fund the above links

BTW: Does this mean the shareholders get the other 11% of .01 ???

[edit on 5/23/2009 by Hx3_1963]

posted on May, 23 2009 @ 06:24 AM
Ha ha ha, something for the weekend to distract ya:

Hunt for accidental millionaires focuses on Hong Kong

Police hunting for a New Zealand couple who allegedly fled the country after a bank mistakenly paid them $NZ10 million ($6 million) believe they traveled to Hong Kong.

TVNZ said the couple applied for an overdraft from Westpac worth up to NZ$100,000 ($61,000). However, on or about May 5, the bank erroneously put NZ$10 million ($6.1 million) into their bank account.

They are so busy with this case,

New Zealand authorities have sought help from Interpol in locating the couple who disappeared May 7, two days after an employee error at Westpac bank paid them 100 times the amount they asked for.

But the cases of non accidental millionaires rest in pieces...

posted on May, 23 2009 @ 06:28 AM
What a dirty political game this is:

Exacerbating the problem, the Obama administration on Thursday all but formally rejected a request by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger for a $6 billion loan guarantee to back the state’s debt. Speaking to Congress, Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner said he was skeptical that he had the authority to provide aid to the state without new legislation, a view echoed by the White House press secretary, Robert Gibbs.

The example must be set, people must understand they're going down, mercilessly. No schools, green a dream, no soup at the end of the line...

And you thought GM was in trouble

posted on May, 23 2009 @ 06:37 AM
reply to post by DangerDeath
Speaking of Dirty Politics... :shk:

Nice huh?

Blue Double Cross

That didn’t take long. Less than two weeks have passed since much of the medical-industrial complex made a big show of working with President Obama on health care reform — and the double-crossing is already well under way. Indeed, it’s now clear that even as they met with the president, pretending to be cooperative, insurers were gearing up to play the same destructive role they did the last time health reform was on the agenda.

So here’s the question: Will Mr. Obama gloss over the reality of what’s happening, and try to preserve the appearance of cooperation? Or will he honor his own pledge, made back during the campaign, to go on the offensive against special interests if they stand in the way of reform?

The story so far: on May 11 the White House called a news conference to announce that major players in health care, including the American Hospital Association and the lobbying group America’s Health Insurance Plans, had come together to support a national effort to control health care costs.

The fact sheet on the meeting, one has to say, was classic Obama in its message of post-partisanship and, um, hope. “For too long, politics and point-scoring have prevented our country from tackling this growing crisis,” it said, adding, “The American people are eager to put the old Washington ways behind them.”

But just three days later the hospital association insisted that it had not, in fact, promised what the president said it had promised — that it had made no commitment to the administration’s goal of reducing the rate at which health care costs are rising by 1.5 percentage points a year. And the head of the insurance lobby said that the idea was merely to “ramp up” savings, whatever that means.
More at Link...

posted on May, 23 2009 @ 07:13 AM
Pardon if a Re-Post didn't actually see these...

A better late than never FDIC Thursday/Friday update this week :shk:


BankUnited Acquires the Banking Operations of BankUnited, FSB, Coral Gables, Florida

Midland States Bank, Effingham, Illinois, Assumes All of the Deposits of Strategic Capital Bank, Champaign , Illinois

Morton Community Bank, Morton, Illinois, Assumes All of the Deposits of Citizens National Bank, Macomb, Illinois

[edit on 5/23/2009 by Hx3_1963]

posted on May, 23 2009 @ 07:26 AM

Originally posted by stander
What causes?

I don't know. Maybe you know. If we don't know the cause(s), then we can't devise a remedy.

Common Stander, you are a very smart and witty person,
You know that the thing we didn't have in the 80s that is eating us right now is is Free trade, NAFTA and the WTO, plus the death of our industrial base and the outsourcing and in sourcing of American jobs.

That is what is causing the high unemployment now, and I know that you know that is not going to get any better because this problems are not even in the table to be addressed.

posted on May, 23 2009 @ 08:51 AM
reply to post by Hx3_1963

I think Reinhardt is right again. The goal is to reduce wages in the USA. It is all about that. And someone also said, common people were living like kings and queens. It has to stop. The health care is promised to the world population, but in America it limps and drags, for a very certain purpose.

Jobless people will jump into anything, even voluntary "social service", just for bed and a couple of meals. And we can expect a whole cultural construction works creating means to make people "feel proud" for handling themselves in such a difficult times. Think: revolutionary, pardon - patriotic music, lots of anthem situations, heated speeches, marches, etc. In the very near future.No need to quote Churchill here

posted on May, 23 2009 @ 08:59 AM
it's amazing how "the S*** hitting the fan", keeps getting pushed farther and farther into the future. could someone update me on when the next date is? thank you in advance.

posted on May, 23 2009 @ 09:18 AM
reply to post by jimmyx
It might be a lot closer than you'd like to think...

NWO Vision is Finalized, Final Preparations in Progress

Things are progressing quite nicely by the "Chicken Scratches" on their calendar... :shk:

Pork Bellies

Lean Hogs

posted on May, 23 2009 @ 10:49 AM
From April 7th, 2008 for your consideration. Seems almost prophetic now IMHO

[edit on 5/23/09 by redhatty]

posted on May, 23 2009 @ 10:52 AM
This is one of the best articles I've seen:

As a side note: we have the Case-Shiller Index and the Case-Shiller Futures Index telling us precisely how close we are to the housing market "bottom." Anybody who is ignoring this data and trying to call the bottom (Jim Cramer) is either an idiot or a fraud.

reply to post by jimmyx

I detect sarcasm, but I'll give you an answer anyway:

In many ways, our current financial problem in the USA most resembles that of Argentina, a decade ago. Their Depression began in 1999 and their economic collapse took place in 2002.

I expect 2011 to be a tough year. The banks are going to suffer huge losses due to the financial time bombs known as option-ARMs. This is also when many insiders expect Commercial Real Estate to completely collapse.

Of course, TSHTF-scenario varies from region to region. Several states are already toast -- as are several nations.

[edit on 23-5-2009 by theWCH]

posted on May, 24 2009 @ 12:06 PM
Hmmm...ya think

Flu scare seen dampening investor sentiment

MANILA, Philippines - As the Philippines confirmed its first case of the Influenza A(H1N1) virus, short-term risk aversion is seen creeping up among investors particularly due to a potential dampening effect of such an epidemic on consumer confidence, analysts said.

“Although it is too early to tell how the public will react, we anticipate some heightened degree of risk aversion to take place, probably temporary. Consumer may tend to shy away from public places, which means less eat outs and lesser trips to commercial centers,” said Jose Mari Lacson, head of research at stock brokerage Campos Lanuza & Co.

“There will be some knee-jerk reaction, although it is not alarming, because of concerns that it may have an impact on spending, particularly tourism and mall traffic,” said Paul Joseph Garcia, chief investment officer at ING Investment Management.
More at Link...

posted on May, 24 2009 @ 12:16 PM

Originally posted by jimmyx
it's amazing how "the S*** hitting the fan", keeps getting pushed farther and farther into the future. could someone update me on when the next date is? thank you in advance.

It's happening right now, right before your eyes...we're being slow cooked, some feel it getting warmer and think " no biggie, I've been through all this before"...while others see the outcome plain as day and have jumped out of the pot entirely, trying to warn the others to get out...

posted on May, 24 2009 @ 02:57 PM
Ok Y'all...

Fire up yer TOS or other favorite market tools, pop yer popcorn, grab yer chilled Grog Mugs and...

Let's get rrreadyyy to crrrumble!!!

Last week on as the Market Crumbles...

New Zealand 2760.54 -15.77 -0.57% 05/22
Australia 3755.40 -49.30 -1.30% 05/22
Nikkei 225 9225.81 -38.34 -0.41% 05/22
TOPIX 875.88 -5.56 -0.63% 05/22
TSE 2nd Sec 1972.08 6.84 0.35% 05/22
JASDAQ 42.47 0.00 0.00% 05/22
Korea 1403.75 -17.90 -1.26% 05/22
Taiwan 6737.29 18.48 0.28% 05/22
Taiwan OTC 109.69 2.64 2.47% 05/22
Shanghai 2597.60 -13.02 -0.50% 05/22
Shanghai A 2726.38 -13.76 -0.50% 05/22
Shanghai B 173.76 0.59 0.34% 05/22
Shenzhen A 922.15 -1.68 -0.18% 05/22
Shenzhen B 406.99 1.53 0.38% 05/22
SHSZ 300 2740.68 -9.33 -0.34% 05/22
Shenzhen comp 10072.63 -36.22 -0.36% 05/22
Hong Kong 17062.52 -136.97 -0.80% 05/22
HK CN Ent 9790.79 -136.49 -1.37% 05/22
HK Aff Crp 3614.42 -40.30 -1.10% 05/22
Singapore 2245.27 34.30 1.55% 05/22
SGX China 78.31 1.21 1.57% 05/22
Vietnam 404.58 -7.93 -1.92% 05/22
Thailand 554.02 5.25 0.96% 05/22
Philippines 2316.89 -16.90 -0.72% 05/22
Malaysia 1045.26 9.70 0.94% 05/22
Indonesia 1881.71 -4.01 -0.21% 05/22
India 13887.15 150.61 1.10% 05/22
Pakistan 5124.56 123.37 2.47% 05/22

Russia 1013.37 12.01 1.20% 05/22
London 4365.29 19.82 0.46% 05/22
Paris 3227.97 10.56 0.33% 05/22
Frankfurt 4918.75 18.08 0.37% 05/22
Turkey 35014.50 293.95 0.85% 05/22
Hungary 15261.25 42.85 0.28% 05/22
Austria 2053.88 -53.00 -2.52% 05/22
Poland 29399.62 -281.74 -0.95% 05/22
Czech 925.80 -2.30 -0.25% 05/22
Sweden 769.40 -14.31 -1.83% 05/22
Finland 5781.22 -208.91 -3.49% 05/22
Norway 256.47 -5.64 -2.15% 05/22
Greece 2280.15 29.15 1.29% 05/22
Italy 15801.00 93.00 0.59% 05/22
Luxembourg 1071.23 14.53 1.38% 05/22
Netherlands 260.14 1.12 0.43% 05/22
Iceland 259.79 1.74 0.67% 05/22
Denmark 308.27 3.44 1.13% 05/20
Switzerland 5409.26 -100.01 -1.82% 05/22
Spain 964.12 8.86 0.93% 05/22
Portugal 2510.63 22.45 0.90% 05/22
Ireland 2697.98 -16.88 -0.62% 05/22
Israel 860.45 -9.22 -1.06% 05/21
Egypt 523.56 -22.05 -4.04% 05/21
S. Africa 20310.65 412.45 2.07% 05/22
Morocco 23053.96 -184.14 -0.79% 05/22
Jordan 2863.05 0.20 0.01% 05/21
UAE Dubai 1666.83 4.38 0.26% 05/21

United States 8277.32 -14.81 -0.18% 05/22
NASDAQ 1692.01 -3.24 -0.19% 05/22
Rus 2000 477.62 -3.60 -0.75% 05/22
S&P 500 887.00 -1.33 -0.15% 05/22
Gold & Silver 151.40 1.52 1.01% 05/22
PreMetals 304.05 2.63 0.87% 05/22
Gold GOX 181.43 2.89 1.62% 05/22
Gold Bugs 379.15 5.48 1.47% 05/22

Gold $956.34^
Silver $14.64^
Oil $61.57^

Gold tops $960 for first time in two months as dollar weakens
May 22, 2009, 2:09 p.m. EST

DXY 79.88v :shk:
79.10?!? Hmmm...

Dollar slides to 2009 low versus euro
May 22, 2009, 5:21 p.m. EST

TNX 34.48^

Treasurys gain as yields touch 7-month highs
May 22, 2009, 9:01 a.m. EST

Well...8:30pm est update all open are this rate throw in the Black Plague, Cali sliding into the Pacific, and the Moon imploding and well have a GIANT RALLY! :shk:

South Korean markets have fallen after the North conducted a successful nuclear test. The Kospi is down more than 5% to 1,333.99.22 minutes ago from BNO Headquarters

Nikkei pares gains after North Korea nuclear test

[edit on 5/24/2009 by Hx3_1963]

posted on May, 25 2009 @ 06:31 AM
reply to post by Hx3_1963

Bank failures

The FDIC has taken over many banks since the start of 2008, including the largest ever failed bank in history. Here's the list so far.

Date / Name of bank / Assets / City State / Aquired by / FDIC cost

5/26/2009 Hx Thrift and Loan $20 Broke Cal. Rock & Puck Bank $7

5/21/2009 BankUnited FSB $12.8 billion Coral Gables Fla. WL Ross & Co., Carlyle Investment Management, Blackstone Capital Partners, Centerbridge Capital Partners, LeFrak Organization, The Wellcome Trust, Greenaap Investments and East Rock Endowment Fund $4.9

5/12/2009 Westsound Bank $334.6 million Bremerton Wash. Kitsap Bank $108 million

5/1/2009 Silverton Bank, National Association $4.1 billion Atlanta Ga. n/a $1.3 billion

5/1/2009 Citizens Community Bank $45.1 million Ridgewood N.J. North Jersey Community Bank $18.1 million

5/1/2009 America West Bank $299.4 million Layton Utah Cache Valley Bank $119.4 million
4/27/2009 American Southern Bank $112.3 million Kennesaw Ga. Bank of North Georgia $41.9 million

4/27/2009 Michigan Heritage Bank $184.6 million Farmington Hills Mich. Level One Bank $71.3 million

4/27/2009 First Bank of Beverly Hills $1.5 billion Calabasas Calif. n/a $394

4/27/2009 First Bank of Idaho $488.9 million Ketchum Idaho U.S. Bank $191.2 million

4/17/2009 American Sterling Bank $181 million Sugar Creek Mo. Metcalf Bank $42 million

4/17/2009 Great Basin Bank of Nevada $270.9 million Elko Nev. Nevada State Bank $42 million

4/10/2009 Cape Fear Bank $492 million Wilmington N.C. First Federal Savings and Loan Association of Charleston $131 million

4/10/2009 New Frontier Bank $2 billion Greeley Colo. n/a $670 million

3/27/2009 Omni National Bank $956.0 million Atlanta Ga. SunTrust Bank $290 million

3/20/2009 FirstCity Bank $297 million Stockbridge Ga. n/a $100 million

3/20/2009 Colorado National Bank $123.5 million Colorado Springs Colo. Herring Bank $9 million

3/20/2009 Teambank $669.8 million N.A. Paola Kan. Great Southern Bank $98 million

3/6/2009 Freedom Bank of Georgia $173 million Commerce Ga. Northeast Georgia Bank $36.2 million

2/27/2009 Heritage Community Bank $232.9 million Glenwood Ill. MB Financial Bank $41.6 million

2/27/2009 Security Savings Bank $238.3 million Henderson Nev. Bank of Nevada $59.1 million

2/20/2009 Silver Falls Bank $131.4 million Silverton Ore. Citizens Bank $50 million

2/13/2009 Sherman County Bank $129.8 million Loup City Neb. Heritage Bank $28 million

2/13/2009 Riverside Bank of the Gulf Coast $539 million Cape Coral Fla. TIB Bank $201.5 million

2/13/2009 Corn Belt Bank and Trust Colo. $271.8 million Pittsfield Ill. Carlinville National Bank $100 million

2/13/2009 Pinnacle Bank $73 million Beaverton Ore. Washington Trust Bank $12.1 million

2/6/2009 FirstBank Financial Services $337 million McDonough Ga. Regions Bank $111 million

2/6/2009 Alliance Bank $1.1 billion Culver City Calif. California Bank & Trust $206 million

2/6/2009 County Bank $1.7 billion Merced Calif. Westamerica Bank $135 million
1/30/2009 MagnetBank $292.9 million Salt Lake City Utah n/a $119.4

1/30/2009 Suburban Federal Savings Bank $360 million Crofton Md. Bank of Essex $126 million

1/30/2009 Ocala National Bank $223.5 million Ocala Fla. CenterState Bank of Florida $99.6 million

1/23/2009 1st Centennial Bank $803.3 million Redlands Calif. First California Bank $227 million

1/16/2009 National Bank of Commerce $430.9 million Berkeley Ill. Republic Bank of Chicago $97.1 million

1/16/2009 Bank of Clark County $446.5 million Vancouver Wash. Umpqua Bank $145 million

12/12/2008 Haven Trust Bank $572 million Guluth Ga. Branch Banking & Trust (BB&T) $200 million

12/12/2008 Sanderson State Bank $37 million Sanderson Texas Pecos County State Bank $12.5 million

12/5/2008 First Georgia Community Bank $237.5 million Jackson Ga. United Bank $72.2 million

11/21/2008 The Community Bank $681 million Loganville Ga. Bank of Essex $240 million

11/21/2008 Downey Savings and Loan Association $12.8 billion Newport Beach Calif. U.S. Bank, National Association $1.4 billion

11/21/2008 PFF Bank and Trust $3.7 billion Pomona Calif. U.S. Bank, National Association $700 million

11/7/2008 Franklin Bank $5.1 billion Houston Texas Prosperity Bank $1.6 billion

11/7/2008 Security Pacific Bank $561.1 million Los Angeles Calif. Pacific Western Bank $210
million 10/31/2008 Freedom Bank $287 million Bradenton Fla. Fifth Third Bank $104 million

10/24/2008 Alpha Bank & Trust $354.1 million Alpharetta Ga. Stearns Bank $158.1 million

10/10/2008 Main Street Bank $98 million Northville Mich. Monroe Bank & Trust $39 million

10/10/2008 Meridian Bank $39.2 million Eldred Ill. National Bank $14.5

9/25/2008 Washington Mutual Bank $307 billion Henderson Nev. JPMorgan Chase Bank $0

9/19/2008 Ameribank $115 million Northfork W. Va. The Citizens Savings Bank $42 million

9/5/2008 Silver State Bank $2 billion Henderson Nev. Nevada State Bank $550 million

8/29/2008 Integrity Bank $1.1 billion Alpharetta Ga. Regions Bank $350 million

8/22/2008 The Columbian Bank and Trust Company $752 million Topeka Kan. Citizens Bank & Trust $60 million

8/1/2008 First Priority Bank $259 million Bradenton Fla. SunTrust Bank $72 million

7/25/2008 First National Bank of Nevada $3.4 billion Reno Nev. Mutual of Omaha Bank $862 million 1

7/25/2008 First Heritage Bank $254 million Newport Beach Calif. Mutual of Omaha Bank $862 million 1

7/11/2008 IndyMac Bank $32 billion Pasadena Calif. n/a $10.7 billion

5/30/2008 First Integrity Bank $54.7 million Staples Minn. First International Bank and Trust $2.3 million

5/9/2008 ANB Financial $2.1 billion Bentonvile Ark. Pulaski Bank and Trust Company $214 million

3/7/2008 Hume Bank $18.7 million Hume Mo. Security Bank $0

1/25/2008 Douglass National Bank $58.5 million Kansas City Mo. Liberty Bank and Trust Company $5.6 million

Total cost to fund: $28 billion

1FDIC issued a combined estimate for First Heritage Bank and First National Bank of Nevada

Source: FDIC

posted on May, 25 2009 @ 12:24 PM
Futures still traded today if anyone is caring..

Dow futures were up around 47 points..

Charts below~


posted on May, 25 2009 @ 04:57 PM
GM Creditors Watch Chrysler Lawsuit

"General Motors bondholders, pushing for a better deal under the carmaker’s restructuring, will be watching a New York court on Tuesday as a group of Chrysler creditors tries to block the imminent emergence of GM’s smaller rival from bankruptcy protection.

GM’s offer to the bondholders of a 10 per cent equity stake in the restructured company expires at midnight. The bondholders, with $27bn in unsecured claims, are widely expected to reject the proposal, setting the stage for GM to file for bankruptcy protection by June 1."

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