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posted on May, 21 2009 @ 12:18 PM
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Good Question...

TNX went high after the bond sale and the dollar started sliding...


GB AAA S&P rating in question... :shk:

Gold $949...

Crazy stuff going on at "Vinnys" Bookie Shop



[edit on 5/21/2009 by Hx3_1963]




posted on May, 21 2009 @ 12:21 PM
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Just for perspective...

1853 : 10-year treasury yield : 3.4
1929 : 10-year treasury yield : 3.3

This is setting up to be the third day in the past 4 weeks where bonds and stocks are going to be down together significantly (greater than 1.5%).

Plus the USD index too

We are so scroomed

[edit on 5/21/09 by redhatty]



posted on May, 21 2009 @ 12:25 PM
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And who the treasury is targeting with this sale? Japan, they already have posted big loses due to the tightening of the US consumer wallets.

China? they have better things to do than selling their own bonds to be buying Americas' junk.

You are right this like another desperate attend to fix what it obviously can not be fixed.

We indeed in big ca-ca.



posted on May, 21 2009 @ 12:25 PM
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LOL

I heard on CNBC they are talking about the PPT

Now, we have to know that is disinformation if CNBC is talking about PPT?



posted on May, 21 2009 @ 12:27 PM
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LOL

I heard on CNBC they are talking about the PPT

Now, we have to know that is disinformation if CNBC is talking about PPT?



posted on May, 21 2009 @ 12:28 PM
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Will the treasury now be running like headless chicken like the BofA? I tell you what ever this people are doing they are sinking this nation more and more.

But then again it seems that is the desirable outcome after all.

Like Obama said our Deficit is unsustainable, but he still spending like drunken sailor after a six month tour in the sea




posted on May, 21 2009 @ 12:36 PM
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Just a rumor, but... Hearing that foreign banks, are quite tired of holding (defending) the USD.... Maybe even turning into hate...

Unloading large amounts of USD reserves will bring Bucky even lower

Also rumored that FCB's (Foreign central banks) offered into the Fed this AM...

Oops no longer a rumor, wire item from Reuters


[11:41 US GOVTS: Real Money Using Coupon Passes To Exit; FM Blast] Boston, May

21. There apparently is a new wrinkle to the intermediation trade between buying from Treasury to sell to the Fed with real money, including central banks, now in on the act. Indeed, several Street sources relay central banks were aggressive offers into this morning's coupon pass, with one letting go of a large block of old 5-years. Other offers too are coming in from embedded Asian real money longs -- in the higher coupons -- also looking to sell size without unduly upsetting the market, and especially considering the illiquidity in off- the-run bids from the Street.

Whether influenced or not by the much higher tenders coming in on the Fed
Passes ($45 bln tendered for $7.4 bln bought in today's pass for a 16.2% hit
rate), fast money has been tattooing the bid and especially so in the belly with the 10-year most leaned on. Note as well, earlier this week the Bank of England (BoE) gilt pass too saw a need to offer paper at or below the market's bid side in order to get sales off.

Obviously, this is not a very supportive situation for the treasury market,
if previous sponsors are heading for the exits in a fairly sizeable manner. With this, and $101 bln in supply next week (and another $70 bln in 3s, 10s and 30s to be announced the week after)look for more downside action. Q-E III anyone?

Kenneth.Logan@Thomsonreuters.com/db/mc


Ticker Guy's take on it

[edit on 5/21/09 by redhatty]



posted on May, 21 2009 @ 12:47 PM
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Nice...

So...a week, maybe 2 before this blows up in their face, and we all take our BOB's to the hills with our swine flu masks taped on???



TNX 33.31 ^ :shk:



[edit on 5/21/2009 by Hx3_1963]



posted on May, 21 2009 @ 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043
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Dear they already has gone transparent on Americans tax payer wallets, the banks did it, the fed did, the treasury did it and the government did it.


Naw, you got to be kidding.

www.office365.co.uk...


I guess you are not kidding.



posted on May, 21 2009 @ 01:00 PM
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I have repeatedly warned that it would be a bond market v/ currency market dislocation that set off the real crash.

Sux to be right sometimes

Days... Weeks... Who knows - how many more rabbits do Ben & Timmy have to pull out of their magic hats?



posted on May, 21 2009 @ 01:01 PM
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Eeewww...

TNX 33.47^

33.53^

33.59^

33.64^

33.70^

going for the day high now?

34 on the chart now


$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


[edit on 5/21/2009 by Hx3_1963]



posted on May, 21 2009 @ 01:07 PM
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GOOD NEWS! GOOD NEWS! Gather round and hear.


NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- In two indications of continuing job market weakness, a drop in the government's weekly reading of initial unemployment claim filings failed to match the surge of the prior week, and the number of people filing on an ongoing basis rose to a record high for the 16th straight week.

A total of 631,000 people filed new claims for jobless benefits in the week ended May 16, the Labor Department said. That's a decrease of 12,000 from an upwardly revised 643,000 in the previous week.

The total was less than expected. Economists surveyed by Briefing.com had forecast 625,000 initial claims, according to a consensus estimate.


Just wait when this reaches Trader Joe's ear.



Moving the Market

Initial jobless claims and continuing claims come in worse than expected.



But Joe . . .

Stander, stop bugging me, will ya? I got an expensive mistress. You now sh-t what it costs.

(We never make it past 10K.)



posted on May, 21 2009 @ 01:08 PM
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TNX 33.72^


and on it goes




DXY 80.64v

80.61v

80.60v

80.59v

Get ready for the PPT!!!!


Gold $953.68^

DJIA sliding hard -193

[edit on 5/21/2009 by Hx3_1963]



posted on May, 21 2009 @ 01:18 PM
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The Treasury market has cratered. The 10 year note has returned to the 3.30 percent level. Why did we crater?I think I have a solid answer(s) but wish I had thought this through earlier.

In the purest trading sense today is Friday. The treasury just announced $ 101 billion of new supply which will trade next week.

Dealers, as is their custom, establish outright shorts and hedged shorts, to prepare for the bidding process. Certainly much of that process happens in advance of the auctions but the announcement is often a catalyst.

Today it is a special catalyst as tomorrow is a short working day before the holiday and Monday is a holiday. If you wish to have a starter kit short in place one had better get working on it as there is only scant time before the bidding begins next week.

So I think that the short week/ auction supply dynamic is driving much of this.


More at link

Since yesterdays open:

SPX down 44 points (almost 5%)
TLT down 4 points (more than 4%)
DX down 1.5 points (more than 2%)
Gold up 26 dollars (3%)
VIX up 5.6 points (more than 20%)

Even pigman extrordinaire Gross admitted there was the scent of US capital flight in the air.

[edit on 5/21/09 by redhatty]



posted on May, 21 2009 @ 01:24 PM
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TNX 33.74^



:shk:

DXY 80.55V

80.53v

80.50v


[edit on 5/21/2009 by Hx3_1963]



posted on May, 21 2009 @ 01:29 PM
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We need to close above 8290 for my theory to continue...

SHAKE AND BAKE !!!!

LOL



posted on May, 21 2009 @ 01:36 PM
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DXY 80.40v

80.38v

80.37v





Ay GBM...wherz's me Gold Booty now?!?!? Aaarrr Matey!



[edit on 5/21/2009 by Hx3_1963]



posted on May, 21 2009 @ 01:48 PM
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Mom, what does it mean "bankruptcy?"

Well, honey, it means that a company is not doing well and may not be a company any more.

Like GM?

Yes, like GM, for example.









posted on May, 21 2009 @ 01:53 PM
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Dow Jones Industrial Average 8,222.92 2:54pm ET Down 199.12 (2.36%)

Dow Jones Transportation Averag 2,989.24 2:51pm ET Down 150.37 (4.79%)

REGIONS FINANCIAL CP 4.06 2:38PM ET Down 0.83 (16.97%) 405,290,302

Ouch...


Gold $953.45


[edit on 5/21/2009 by Hx3_1963]



posted on May, 21 2009 @ 01:53 PM
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Oh yeah you could short the phone book right now & not lose :-)

Darts anyone? ROFL



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