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The "up-to-the-minute Market Data" thread

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posted on May, 21 2009 @ 02:01 AM
Wednesday market started on an upbeat note played by news about banks displaying the desire to get the feds of their back. But then, the market retreated. Someone was seen buying stuff.

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner told a Senate panel that financial markets are "starting to heal" and that a program to remove toxic assets from bank balance sheets would begin in the next six weeks.

Do I understand this that the banks are still toxic as ever?

You don't have to tell the traders twice to cash in on news like that.

The jobless claims slowed down a bit, and so the traders get busy tomorrow -- providing Tim Geithner is through.

How many folks bought GM shares recently available for 90 cents or so?

General Motors [GM 1.45 0.18 (+14.17%) ] was the biggest percentage gainer on the Dow, up 14 percent, after the automaker said it's expecting three offers for its German Opel unit.

Hey, Rock, did you know about this?

Germa(n Ope)l.

Neither did I.

posted on May, 21 2009 @ 02:26 AM

Originally posted by Rockpuck
Jesus christ I swear to god I am SICK of my articles disappearing while I type my posts! Wasn't even 3 mins and I go back to the story and it's gone..

Perhaps if you change the tone of your posts and your attitude toward the present and future of this great country, your articles will not be disappearing.


posted on May, 21 2009 @ 02:27 AM
There's something really disgusting that happened...

HR2187. To give money to modernize, repair or renovate public schools. It didn't passed the house. Democrats ALL voted against it. They vote for more money for the war, bigger deficit, ect... but when it comes to money for education, they vote against it.

Great move, democrats.

posted on May, 21 2009 @ 03:52 AM
Another beautiful day in "Market La-La Land"

Standard & Poor's cuts U.K. outlook to negative
May 21, 2009, 4:36 a.m. EST

LONDON (MarketWatch) -- Standard & Poor's cut its credit-rating outlook on the U.K. to negative from stable though it affirmed the country's AAA sovereign credit rating. "We have revised the outlook on the U.K. to negative due to our view that, even assuming additional fiscal tightening, the net general government debt burden could approach 100% of GDP and remain near that level in the medium term," Standard & Poor's credit analyst David Beers said. "We base our opinion on our updated projections of general government deficits in 2009-2013. These projections reflect our more cautious view of how quickly the erosion in the government's revenue base may be repaired, the extent to which the growth in government spending can be curtailed, and consequently the pace at which historically high fiscal deficits are likely to narrow."

S&P 500 -5.90 894.00 5/21 5:20am
Fair Value 902.14 5/20 10:11pm
Difference* -8.14

NASDAQ -5.75 1386.75 5/21 4:42am
Fair Value 1393.31 5/20 10:11pm
Difference* -6.56

Dow Jones -42.00 8353.00 5/21 5:13am
Shanghai Composite 2,610.62 3:00AM ET Down 40.79 (1.54%)
Hang Seng 17,199.49 5:18AM ET Down 276.35 (1.58%)
Nikkei 225 9,264.15 3:00AM ET Down 80.49 (0.86%)
Straits Times 2,210.97 5:10AM ET Down 58.27 (2.57%)
FTSE 100 4,363.10 5:18AM ET Down 105.31 (2.36%)
CAC 40 3,246.57 5:34AM ET Down 56.80 (1.72%)
DAX 4,943.85 5:19AM ET Down 95.09 (1.89%)
Gold $940.80

[edit on 5/21/2009 by Hx3_1963]

posted on May, 21 2009 @ 06:17 AM

Originally posted by Hx3_1963
S&P 500 -5.90 894.00 5/21 5:20am
Fair Value 902.14 5/20 10:11pm
Difference* -8.14

NASDAQ -5.75 1386.75 5/21 4:42am
Fair Value 1393.31 5/20 10:11pm
Difference* -6.56

Dow Jones -42.00 8353.00 5/21 5:13am

Hex, that needs to be verbalized -- the Artificial Intelligence nanochip implanted in the brain is still a few decade away. How about this way:

U.S. stock futures fell Thursday, dragged lower by ongoing concerns about the economic outlook.

At 5:15 a.m. ET, Dow Jones industrial average, S&P 500 and Nasdaq 100 futures were lower.

Futures measure current index values against perceived future performance and offer an indication of how markets may open when trading begins in New York.

Now comes a brief wrap up of the last session:

U.S. stocks finished Wednesday's session lower after the Federal Reserve issued a gloomy forecast for the economy.

And then come the tools that may shape the Thursday trading:

Economy: Investors will digest a number of economic reports Thursday. At 8:30 a.m. ET, the Labor Department's weekly report on jobless claims comes out.

A report on leading economic indicators comes out at 10 a.m. ET. A survey of regional manufacturing activity also comes out then.

What do you think, Hex? You would take Iwo Jima in two days with armament like that? Huh?

ZZZZZ . . . zzzzz . . . ZZZZZ . . . zzzz . . .

posted on May, 21 2009 @ 06:36 AM
reply to post by stander

What do you think, Hex? You would take Iwo Jima in two days with armament like that? Huh?

Nah I wouldn't attempt to "Storm" my Grand-Kids Playground with that sediment...

FTSE 100 4,373.39 7:21AM ET Down 95.02 (2.13%)
CAC 40 3,253.80 7:36AM ET Down 49.57 (1.50%)
DAX 4,951.78 7:21AM ET Down 87.16 (1.73%)

[edit on 5/21/2009 by Hx3_1963]

posted on May, 21 2009 @ 06:49 AM
Will they cut the US outlook to VERY negative yet? Or the entire credit rating to JUNK?

We need some reality here. DOW at 4000 and SP500 at below 450.

We need to get freaking real here or we won't come out of this.

And we need to STOP GIVING TRILLIONS to the goddamn robbers who call themselves banks.

You know what's next. Privatisation of everything, then they jack up the price of everything, then the ``IMF riots``, then government repression, then civil war or enslavement.


When boyscouts are being trained to be military polices, aka Nazi SS, we've got a BIG FREAKING PROBLEM.

I wouldn't care much if this was happening in a little country in South America or Africa, but when it's happening to the country with the biggest army in the world, with NUKES, crazy leaders bent on controlling the world and they are near me, I'm quite pissed.

[edit on 21-5-2009 by Vitchilo]

posted on May, 21 2009 @ 07:23 AM
This news has a sort of doomsday ring to it:

U.K. May Lose AAA Rating at S&P as Finances Weaken

May 21 (Bloomberg) -- Britain may lose its AAA credit rating for the first time as government finances deteriorate in the worst recession since World War II.

Standard & Poor’s lowered its outlook on Britain to “negative” from “stable” and said the nation faces a one in three chance of a ratings cut as debt approaches 100 percent of gross domestic product. The pound fell the most in four weeks against the dollar, the FTSE 100 Index slid as much as 2.8 percent and the cost of insuring U.K. debt against default rose.

posted on May, 21 2009 @ 07:34 AM
UE... -631K

prior weeks revised -3.5K's a wholesale "toss the employee free-for-all"

Continuing claims...6.662M

And Rick Santelli is LIVID!!!

And here's the "headline"

U.S. weekly initial jobless claims fall by 12,000

More Better than expected?

[edit on 5/21/2009 by Hx3_1963]

posted on May, 21 2009 @ 07:56 AM
reply to post by stander

Dear they already has gone transparent on Americans tax payer wallets, the banks did it, the fed did, the treasury did it and the government did it.

Guess what their transparency is not the kind that you may think is the kind that just may hide.
While robbing the nation blind.

Yes Obama has been boasting and preaching that Americas deficit is unsustainable, by he keeps increasing government spending and gouging the tax payer so much for fiscal accountability and protection of the tax payer.

[edit on 21-5-2009 by marg6043]

posted on May, 21 2009 @ 08:23 AM
reply to post by stander

And you had any doubts that banks didn't have any bad assets anymore?

Have you seen BofA running like headless chicken for the last few day trying to raise that capital they need before more bad news tamper their good luck?

posted on May, 21 2009 @ 08:27 AM
reply to post by Vitchilo

Oh dear, who say that American needs to be educated for the government to keep robbing the tax payer blind. Actually the less knowledgeable and gullible the public are the more willing they will open their already empty wallets and give away their blood.

We are after all already on the low end of education when compare to other developing countries.

posted on May, 21 2009 @ 08:31 AM
reply to post by Hx3_1963

Yeah the claim are down but the so-called continued claims rose to a fresh record as the recession battered employment, now where are the numbers for that one, I guess the down 12000 looks better and will stick more.

posted on May, 21 2009 @ 08:39 AM
After the government claiming that Freddy and Fanny will lead us out of the housing recession news like this are kept far and away from the eyes of the consumer.

From the 60 billions given to them of tax payer money the have lost over 30 billions on the last quarter

The weakness of the companies was underscored by their most recent quarterly reports. In the first four months of 2009, Fannie Mae has lost $23.2 billion while Fannie Mae reported a quarterly loss of $9.9 billion.

If this is the way to lead the nation out of the housing crisis I can only dream what the end results will be.

posted on May, 21 2009 @ 09:23 AM
Markets will tumble today

seems like we are back on track to reality

posted on May, 21 2009 @ 10:35 AM

Bring out the bear's, everyday we get a down day...

We are though "Standin' on the razor's edge.." (Scarface anyone?

Still up on the week by the hair on my _______

Anyone notice how we were down 180 and right EXACTLY on the 20 EMA and rebounded quick?

That is a SUPER IMPORTANT AREA for us cautious bulls (thats me)

Lets see what happens.. remember its only important to where tomorrow ends (AS far as my theory goes at least)

posted on May, 21 2009 @ 10:37 AM
HX -

Will you remember us when gold is at 2000? Two month high today I see...

I will be calling you for a non secured loan of course at this point !

I hope there is room in your pool of bullion....

posted on May, 21 2009 @ 10:42 AM

Past several days here...

Notice how this morning we see that spike UP?

Cant break below that..

That is coincidentally (ok, not really) where the 20 EMA DAILY is sitting..

Who said this week wasnt interesting?


Talk to you soon!

posted on May, 21 2009 @ 11:55 AM
What the reasoning to the dollar drop going on right now in Forex?

seeing some crazy swings and movement in the euro and pound.

posted on May, 21 2009 @ 12:17 PM
reply to post by worldwatcher

The Treasury Announced that it will sell $101 Billion (debt sales)

China will only buy short term treasuries (Debt)

Over $45 Billion in T's were offered up in the Fed buyback program, but only $7.4 Billion were bought by the Fed

FOREX traders are waking up to the reality that the policies and actions being taken by the Fed & US are going to destroy US.

Here's an article on it FX market finally believes in the resolve of the Fed

We are scroomed

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