The "up-to-the-minute Market Data" thread

reply to post by stander


Since layoffdaily.com was a "labor of love" made by a Ticker Forum member, I am quite sure that his reasons for the hiatus, lack of income from it and taking too much of his time - are the real reasons.

He would have said otherwise on TF if anything was "amiss"

so tinfoil it all you want, it doesn't change reality

Wonder why this gets no notice???

Commercial Real Estate Time Bomb Goes Off But No One Notices
globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com...

The Commercial Real Estate Time Bomb has gone off but it has been lost in the euphoria of economic cheerleading and bottom calls based on dubious (at best) earnings reports from banks. Here are a few headline items from the past week or so to consider.

More at Link...

S&P 500 -3.70 844.00 4/22 6:25am
Fair Value 846.66 4/21 10:30pm
Difference* -2.66

NASDAQ -6.00 1322.00 4/22 5:09am
Fair Value 1327.56 4/21 10:30pm
Difference* -5.56

Dow Jones -50.00 7873.00 4/22 6:14am
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FTSE 100 4,009.38 6:29AM ET Up 21.92 (0.55%)
CAC 40 2,995.54 6:44AM ET Up 21.60 (0.73%)
DAX 4,536.30 6:30AM ET Up 34.67 (0.77%)

[edit on 4/22/2009 by Hx3_1963]

wow...

Just heard on CNBC the CFO of Freddie Mac killed his self ...

Freddie Mac Chief David Kellerman Commits Suicide
www.wcbs880.com...
www.wusa9.com...
www.wtopnews.com...
www.reuters.com...
Bio
www.freddiemac.com...

Wonder if any others are watching???

A "scape goat"?

Morgan Stanley Reports First Quarter Results
finance.yahoo.com...

Wells Fargo posts $3.05 billion profit
www.reuters.com...

Continental posts loss on weak demand
www.reuters.com...

Boeing profit narrows as economy hits orders
www.reuters.com...

AT&T quarterly profit and revenue fall
www.reuters.com...

Great...just what the USSA needs...

Biden announces new position "intellectual property czar"
www.foxnews.com...

S&P 500 -10.78

NASDAQ -12.36

Dow Jones -85.56

FTSE 100 3,956.58 8:38AM ET Down 30.88 (0.77%)
CAC 40 2,953.54 8:54AM ET Down 20.40 (0.69%)
DAX 4,466.10 8:39AM ET Down 35.53 (0.79%)
ATX 1,789.84 8:39AM ET Down 29.18 (1.60%)
Swiss Market 4,994.26 8:39AM ET Down 82.46 (1.62%)

Tiny Tim on CNBS sounds like he's making a pitch for IMF/NWO...Hmmm

[edit on 4/22/2009 by Hx3_1963]

Originally posted by Hx3_1963
Great...just what the USSA needs...

Biden announces new position "intellectual property czar"
www.foxnews.com...

I actually think that ironing out some intellectual property issues could be a very good thing. Of course, if they don't get these things ironed out while people still have enough money to enforce Intellectual Property laws, then it's all a big exercise in futility.

Really...heh...sounding more dire than the last downgrade...

World economy in severe recession, IMF says
www.reuters.com...

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The International Monetary Fund said on Wednesday the world economy has fallen into a severe recession, cutting its forecast for global growth and calling for forceful action to spur a recovery.

In its latest World Economic Outlook, the IMF said the global economy would likely contract 1.3 percent this year in the deepest post-World War Two recession by far.

Growth is set to re-emerge to around 1.9 percent next year, a pace more sluggish than average recoveries because of lingering strains in the financial sector, it added.

More at Link...

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reply to post by Hx3_1963


That is new to me, I wish the other CEOs would do the honorable thing too and join Freddy Mac one.



Today Geithner was answering questions on the economic club and when faced with AIG questions he dares to say while trying form words in his mouth that they are working very hard for the interest of the tax payer in the nation.

What a clown and a corporate butt kisser.

Working for the best interest of tax payer while leaching them dry.

Nothing but corrupted fat rats.

reply to post by marg6043
Yeah he was having a hard time talking this morning...

Hard to look people in the eye and make up good lies on the fly...

Talked a lot about "The World" this "The World" that...a IMF/NWO pitch...


Dow Jones Industrial Average 7,937.22 9:38am ET Down 32.34 (0.41%)
S&P 500 INDEX,RTH 844.73 9:38am ET Down 5.35 (0.63%)

Just love CNBS coverage of that CFO...ok...yep...McDonalds is up...asp-hats...

[edit on 4/22/2009 by Hx3_1963]

The WCH, now we are to have an Intellectual Czar? anyone want to bet who ex CEO will be in the position? this becoming so obvious the more that governemnt keeps increasing their size, corporate America is now in charge of governemnt.

I feel so secure that my tax payer dollars are been taken care of that I feel like pucking.


Hx3_1963 you mean they still clinging to the term recession but they should be calling it for what it is a depression.

reply to post by Hx3_1963


You are right yesterday he looked so bloated with confidence while facing the congress panel, perhaps because his entire questioning was already rehearsed or either he knew the questions to be ask before hand.

But this morning he just looked lost and incompetent, so actually he has not changed at all.

reply to post by marg6043
Yeah...how many times can you keep downgrading the world, before people figure out what it really is...

Depression...

Every comparison they use anymore is "since WW2"...Hmmm...

Most records only go back that far...

Geithner acknowledges U.S. fault in crisis
www.reuters.com...

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How Obama butt kissing China our biggest debt buyer is going to help accelerate the down fall of yet another America staple.

America is Victimizing its Own Independence

The United Steelworkers union represents 15,000 tire workers at 13 plants nationwide.

Officials with the United Steelworkers union have filed official grievances with the Obama administration, urging the president to enact tariff barriers against future imports of Chinese-made tires. The union is merely asking that the administration cap imports of Chinese tires at their 2005 level of 21 million annual units – less than half of the 2008 total of 46 million units valued at $1.7 billion.

www.economyincrisis.org...

No even the quality of the American steel can compete with the down graded trash that China is shoving up to the butts of American builders because is cheaper.

Now under quality tires are hitting the streets of America.

We already lost copper tires here in my neck of the woods, leaving over 1300 without jobs right during the holidays in a town that already has lost Merck, bob candies plus the cuts on proctor and gamble.




[edit on 22-4-2009 by marg6043]

reply to post by marg6043
I feel for ya...

Here in South Michigan UE is "probably" 13%...

Just spent time on the ATS layoff thread, posting a half a dozen Michigan layoffs, just in the past couple of hours...

And another 71 losses in NC just came in...

Hmmm...TPTB must not of liked the last IMF report...

U.S. recession showing signs of moderating: IMF
www.reuters.com...

Just release a better report and it's all better now...

[edit on 4/22/2009 by Hx3_1963]

reply to post by Hx3_1963


And the morons in Washington priority is to put more tax payer money into banks.

The incompetence is staggering or either the corruption is out of control.

No nation can recover with more debt and spending while the nations income producers are withering.

Anybody can tell that the way of thinking in Washington is not rational.

reply to post by Hx3_1963


God I know huh?

He gets like talking so fast sometimes you can barely even understand what the hell he is saying.

I had a german statistics prof. like this.. he was so in the know and talked so fast because literally it was just all flowing out of his brain..

But Tim "The real deal" Geithner will pull through for us.. just wait

reply to post by marg6043


I'm not sure that somebody from a major corporation is the person to do it, but the Intellectual Property laws do need major re-tooling. Right now there is virtually no incentive to develop any sort of innovation, unless you're working for a major corporation. Patents are worthless for the type of relatively small-time inventor who drove our country to prominence. It costs ~$10,000 to apply for a patent, and once you have the patent, all it does is give you right to sue big-business (with their expensive lawyers) when they steal your innovation. Incidentally, this is why appointing a "Czar" from big business is probably doomed to fail.

And in case nobody could tell -- I'm a bitter, discouraged inventor.

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reply to post by GreenBicMan
How much they pay you for that cheer leading???

You're just way to optimistic for most of us here...

I'd like to see fuzzy kittens and Rainbows, but, after just posting 1,000's of job losses...no can do...

But...the DJIA and S&P are up, so party like its 1929...

Dow Jones Industrial Average 8,020.06 10:45am ET Up 50.50 (0.63%)
S&P 500 INDEX,RTH 855.77 10:45am ET Up 5.69 (0.67%)

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reply to post by Hx3_1963


Nothing, Im just a fan of true bull markets, and we are in one IMHO, this is all coming together REALLY REALLY WELL.. in 6 months the rest of "usa" will pick up if this continues like I think it will..

Dont lose all hope yet, everything I have stated so far is 100% correct to my knowledge.. but I see no near term bear in our future (forward looking markets)

reply to post by marg6043
Now you know how they're making money, while losing money right???

It's called sacrifice the workers...besides materials used in their products, workers are probably the most expensive...

It's a down right shame also...they have their eyes so fixed on the money and the bottom line...

They can't even see that when they let all the workers go, they cut their own throats...

People with out jobs and money can't/won't buy their goods services...

Nice business model...for failure, when there's nothing else left to cut *BAM*...dumb...greed never learns...

reply to post by Hx3_1963


I've always thought that that's how Marx's "revolution" will take place, more or less. I figured it would come about 30 years from now, when outsourcing and automation give us a society with virtually no workers but booming economic growth. The few jobs that remained would be very well paying, and everybody else would say "screw this" and some extreme version of communism/socialism would start to look pretty good. My 30 year timeline was based on when Artificial Intelligence is projected to be advanced enough to really make us expendable.

Maybe I was overestimating things, and all it would take is a collapse of the global financial system to bring about this scenario.

[edit on 22-4-2009 by theWCH]

reply to post by theWCH
Well I guess we broke the 1.5 Peta-flop boundary?

A lot of stuff we could automate now...we have the knowledge...

Between satellites, GPS and vehicle on board computers, we could get out of farming, mining, drilling, transporting, fishing and a few other things...

If people just went about their business or did things they REALLY wanted to do, instead of having to settle, with limited education/opportunity's, people who wanted to be teachers would go to school free and be teachers...

People who were good at building/designing things, would become trade persons/engineers...

When ya needed something...just go get it...

After we get everyone basically set up, we'd only have to "work" to just replace worn out/broken items...

See what I'm getting at?

Wala...no rich money tenders...

Crazy huh?

Dow Jones Industrial Average 8,024.44 11:37am ET Up 54.88 (0.69%)
S&P 500 INDEX,RTH 858.25 11:37am ET Up 8.17 (0.96%)
NASDAQ Composite 1,671.38 11:37am ET Up 27.53 (1.67%)

Gold $885,25

WOW UK is getting hammered over it's new budget...PO'd majorly...

www.telegraph.co.uk...

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