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The "up-to-the-minute Market Data" thread

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posted on Apr, 20 2009 @ 04:06 AM
reply to post by Vitchilo
Nice huh?

I posted that older April 6th article under it to supply some back-up for the "leaked" article...

*Fair Value*
Dow mini -78.33
Dow mini -89.33

S&P 500 -9.60
NQD -14.37
FTSE 100 4,071.36 4:50AM ET Down 21.44 (0.52%)
CAC 40 3,034.45 5:05AM ET Down 57.51 (1.86%)
DAX 4,588.27 4:50AM ET Down 88.57 (1.89%)
AEX General 238.94 5:05AM ET Down 4.87 (2.00%)
ATX 1,867.48 4:50AM ET Down 46.76 (2.44%)
Gold $869.40

[edit on 4/20/2009 by Hx3_1963]

posted on Apr, 20 2009 @ 04:14 AM
The banks need what's coming to them. They deserve to die, be dissolved. And the scum who put them in this situation need to go to jail and have all their assets taken to pay for the 12.8 trillions + the losses that will result from the meltdown + the FDIC losses.

But those big banks going under... I think we're on the verge of seeing another september-october-type panic... if they report it as it is, which is... most big banks are insolvent.

But IMO they won't report it as it is, they always pull tricks to manipulate the markets. But if they really do, it's over for the US, starting this week.

[edit on 20-4-2009 by Vitchilo]

posted on Apr, 20 2009 @ 04:25 AM
Funny how these businesses are making money, doing less business, must be from letting all their employees go...and the .GOV...

Bank of America net income tops $4 billion
&dist=TQP_Mod_mktwN]Mark etWatch

BAC Pre-Market After Hours $9.75 Change: -0.85 -8.02% Volume: 4,528,538

Think someone smells a rat???

Treasury to provide nearly $30 bln of funds for AIG
&dist=morenews]MarketW atch

Why don't we just move a printing press over to AIG. It'd help on the expense of transportation of all our cash.

- caugusti
AIG Pre-Market After Hours $1.45 Change: -0.17 -10.49% Volume: 889,400

More "profits" for the banks 2nd Q...

Oracle buying Sun Microsystems for $9.50 a share
&dist=TQP_Mod_mktw N]MarketWatch

Orcl Pre-Market After Hours $18.00 Change: -1.06 -5.56% Volume: 415,870

*Fair Value*
Dow Mini -108.33

S&P 500 -13.20

NDQ -24.37
ATX 1,844.60 6:15AM ET Down 69.64 (3.64%)

FTSE 100 4,042.06 6:41AM ET Down 50.74 (1.24%)

CAC 40 3,031.21 6:30AM ET Down 60.75 (1.96%)

DAX 4,557.05 6:01AM ET Down 119.79 (2.56%)

AEX General 237.73 6:08AM ET Down 6.08 (2.49%)

MICEX INDEX 897.94 -34.96 -3.75% 06:37

DFM GENERAL INDEX 1,666.52 -78.13 -4.48% 05:57

GBP falling $1.4579

Copper 9.04 ^

HGK9 Copper 2.1375 -0.0565 -2.5750%

Oil $47.74 v

Seems someones reading something into something huh???

Europe stocks down as banks, commodities weigh

Multimedia Mirage - Financials

[edit on 4/20/2009 by Hx3_1963]

posted on Apr, 20 2009 @ 07:00 AM
reply to post by Hx3_1963

Holy crap on a stick!!! I can't imagine Turner getting the scoop; but if this is true...I've been too bullish. And if you go back a few pages, I was expecting "very, very bad" results. God help us all.

Just the thought of things being THAT dire makes me physically ill.

posted on Apr, 20 2009 @ 07:06 AM
reply to post by theWCH
Hard to say at this point...

The link under the "leak" article seems to collaborate most of the numbers and is from a real news site so...

I think the .gov aren't going to ask for more money...they're just going to do a end around to Treas/Fed...what a crock of carp...we have no say what so ever...not like they listened the first or second time...

Bank of America profit rises, credit quality sours

Citigroup shares fall 7% in pre-open, to $3.39

Pre-Market After Hours $3.37 Change: -0.28 -7.67% Volume: 8,958,265

*Fair Value*
Dow Mini -126.33
S&P -13.90
NDQ -27.12

FTSE 100 4,030.15 8:08AM ET Down 62.65 (1.53%)
CAC 40 2,994.32 8:21AM ET Down 97.64 (3.16%)
DAX 4,544.91 8:09AM ET Down 131.93 (2.82%)

Gold $876.52 ^

Oil $47.50 v

[edit on 4/20/2009 by Hx3_1963]

posted on Apr, 20 2009 @ 07:22 AM
Well, I can only think of two reasons to delay releasing the results:

1) The results were bad.

2) The Government is pulling some corrupt stunt -- that ATS conspiracy theorists will probably be talking about 10 years from now -- and telling us the great news that "hey most/all of the banks passed!" would screw up this scheme.

I don't buy the "most banks passed just fine" angle unless the few that failed were HUGE players who failed BAD. They would want to get good results out as quick as possible.

Still, 16 of the 19 are insolvent, the top five already being dead, and if two of them go under we're effectively looking at collapse? Can anybody say Dow 3000, food-shortages, and riots in the streets?

[edit on 20-4-2009 by theWCH]

posted on Apr, 20 2009 @ 07:29 AM
reply to post by theWCH
Pretty optimistic there...

It seems Golden Slacks is the big winner/loser in this...

They have the worst numbers, but, have all the right people in the right places to throw them whatever...

Pre-Market After Hours $116.60 Change: -4.00 -3.32% Volume: 82,567

Dow Mini -144.33
S&P -16.80
NDQ -29.37

Down they go...

FTSE 100 4,024.86 8:13AM ET Down 67.94 (1.66%)
FTSE 100 4,021.67 8:15AM ET Down 71.13 (1.74%)
FTSE 100 4,007.05 8:19AM ET Down 85.75 (2.10%)

CAC 40 2,995.31 8:28AM ET Down 96.65 (3.13%)

DAX 4,536.84 8:14AM ET Down 140.00 (2.99%)
DAX 4,516.08 8:20AM ET Down 160.76 (3.44%)

[edit on 4/20/2009 by Hx3_1963]

posted on Apr, 20 2009 @ 07:42 AM
reply to post by Hx3_1963

Not really that optimistic -- I meant by the end of the week. You have to figure, they'll shut down the markets at about -800 every day, and there's a few days worth of food on the shelves. Week two is the where I think it would really get ugly.

[edit on 20-4-2009 by theWCH]

posted on Apr, 20 2009 @ 07:46 AM
reply to post by Hx3_1963

No banking institution or financial institution should be allow to post profits as long as they took and are taking tax payer money and every penny of that money is pay back.

Only smart people like here in this thread knows that what they are doing is dirty, deceiving and out rage lying.

The rest of the world are watching and they are not stupid either.

We are heading for a downfall and the picture is not pretty.

We have high unemployment, consumer confidence is low, people are trying to keep every penny they have so they are not spending this means less profits for those that survive on that consumer spending and more loses for businesses and lost of job for their employees.

Right now in America consumers are saving, cutting on expenses and wastefulness at least I am, I am saving about 5 hundred dollars a month and that means somebody else job is in the line.

Let the morons in Washington influenced like whores by their pimps in the financial and banking system do what they are doing without taking into consideration that a nation is more than banks, loans and credit and we are witnessing how our own government is killing this nation.

Sometimes I am so fed up with the incompetence that I just don't know what else to say.

posted on Apr, 20 2009 @ 07:47 AM
reply to post by theWCH
Star 4 U!

Whew...glad you straightened me out there...

I was worried you meant by summer or something...

Dow Mini -129.33
S&P -15.50
NDQ -26.37

FTSE 100 4,017.14 8:31AM ET Down 75.66 (1.85%)
CAC 40 3,007.87 8:46AM ET Down 84.09 (2.72%)
DAX 4,517.86 8:32AM ET Down 158.98 (3.40%)

Gold $878.52 ^

Oil $47.95

posted on Apr, 20 2009 @ 07:49 AM
Zero Hedge is covering the Stress Test "Leak." Right now, they seem to be leaning toward a BS verdict.

If somebody did leak it to Turner, then I think he's about to learn the lesson of the Boy Who Cried Wolf. Which may actually make him an ideal person to leak the results to.

posted on Apr, 20 2009 @ 07:53 AM
reply to post by theWCH

Leaked my butt, this numbers where not leaked they were given out, I wonder the whole deal or agenda behind that.

Something is cooking, perhaps this is to accelerate the sell out of what ever global investors where still holding too.

But no to worry, I imagine that Bernanke and Geithner will pull another one out of their magic hats.

Still this is not surprise here you all were very aware of how this banks were doing.

So no surprises.

[edit on 20-4-2009 by marg6043]

posted on Apr, 20 2009 @ 08:05 AM
reply to post by marg6043
Star 4 U!

I'm with ya on this bunch of carp...

Seems we have no say what so ever about much of anything anymore...

Dow Mini -140.33
S&P -17.10
NDQ -28.37

FTSE 100 4,016.36 8:49AM ET Down 76.44 (1.87%)
CAC 40 2,996.76 9:05AM ET Down 95.20 (3.08%)
DAX 4,526.20 8:50AM ET Down 150.64 (3.22%)
ATX 1,846.86 8:50AM ET Down 67.38 (3.52%)
Stockholm General 228.76 9:04AM ET Down 7.34 (3.11%)

BAC Pre-Market After Hours $9.79 Change: -0.81 -7.64% Volume: 17,240,087

Oil $46.75 v

[edit on 4/20/2009 by Hx3_1963]

posted on Apr, 20 2009 @ 08:13 AM
Martin Weiss is saying the same thing. Numbers and all. This is either corroboration, or they're passing off Weiss's report as the Stress Test. Hmmmm....

posted on Apr, 20 2009 @ 08:19 AM
Somebody needs to mail out this thread to the moron in Washington so they can fire their greedy and dirty financial advisers and start taking real advise from real Americans like the people in this thread.
and is all for free.

This is the reality of our financial situation and it will be so easy to fix if the morons in Washington will invest in our nation and in our hard workers and tax payer rather than squandering money on banks.

Loans and credits are not how you fix the economy.

The United States has lost nearly 1.5 million jobs in 2009 alone, and is going to get worst before the year is over.

(Obama one million jobs will not be enough)

There are approximately 6 million people in the U.S. collecting unemployment benefits. States are starting to run dry

(This means less taxable income to run the government)

Unfortunately the Cure will take the existing system of government that we have and remake it into one that will work for the people and the nation and not for private interest.

But as long as these rats keep holding our government hostage we will not be able to do anything to fix this nation.

Unfortunately, there are more problems in the United States than our fiscal deficiencies. We have a leadership deficit in Washington which may be incurable in our current political system. Every member of the government is sponsored by big business, redirecting their efforts for Corporate America instead of mainstream America.

The United States needs to remake itself on almost every level. We need better leadership and we need better policies. This country is incredibly indebted to its own public and to foreign nations. We survive almost completely on imports, and watch our jobs, our money, and our technology flow overseas – quickly making America irrelevant. We need to stop this before its gets even more out of hand.

posted on Apr, 20 2009 @ 08:31 AM
...And here we go.... sledding in Scandinavia...Wheee...

FTSE 100 4,028.11 9:15AM ET Down 64.69 (1.58%)
CAC 40 3,000.05 9:30AM ET Down 91.91 (2.97%)
DAX 4,533.53 9:16AM ET Down 143.31 (3.06%)

@ WCH: It "appears" that doc is

[edit on 4/20/2009 by Hx3_1963]

posted on Apr, 20 2009 @ 08:36 AM
reply to post by Hx3_1963

Is now over 100 points down, Its going to be something to watch today, unless Bernanke, Obama or Geithner comes out with the magic words, but will the hopes works their magic?

posted on Apr, 20 2009 @ 08:48 AM
reply to post by Hx3_1963

It would appear so.

This Weiss guy was a Fullbright Fellow, has any Ivy League doctorate (Cultural Anthropology -- cool, I like forecasters who can look at the socio-cultural "big picture") and seems to have been fairly accurate. Got into some minor trouble with the SEC, over whether he was "giving financial advise" or just selling publications -- they didn't dispute the information that he was giving out.

Trying to dig up more info on this guy, before I dive in and read that 94 page report...I haven't had enough coffee for that!

posted on Apr, 20 2009 @ 08:56 AM
reply to post by theWCH
Yes coffee is paramount when digging through this dirt...

DJIA/S&P/NDQ all tanking...

Banks taking 5%-10% hits...

Dow Jones Industrial Average 7,958.17 9:54am ET Down 173.16 (2.13%)
S&P 500 INDEX,RTH 849.35 9:54am ET Down 20.25 (2.33%)
NASDAQ Composite 1,633.53 9:55am ET Down 39.54 (2.36%)

FINANCIAL BULL 3X 8.27 9:41AM ET Down 1.13 (12.02%) 25,034,344

FTSE 100 4,000.98 9:43AM ET Down 91.82 (2.24%)
CAC 40 2,984.42 9:54AM ET Down 107.54 (3.48%)
DAX 4,505.02 9:44AM ET Down 171.82 (3.67%)

[edit on 4/20/2009 by Hx3_1963]

posted on Apr, 20 2009 @ 08:58 AM
I just wanted to mention that I have been getting the Money and Markets newsletter since last summer. It always has some really good information and always seems to be "dead on" (even to a novice like myself!).

I think you all would enjoy the daily readng in it as well!

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