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The "up-to-the-minute Market Data" thread

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posted on Apr, 2 2009 @ 04:29 PM
reply to post by irishchic
Look up...or back now I guess...

Corn 402.50 6.50
Oats 197.50 7
Rice 12.63 0.39
Soybeans 977 25
Cocoa 2702 83
Coffee 117.10 2.30
Cotton 46.15 0
Lumber 180.70 4.20
Orange Juice 75.25 0.80
Sugar 13.06 0.33

[edit on 4/2/2009 by Hx3_1963]

posted on Apr, 2 2009 @ 04:33 PM
reply to post by irishchic

Glad at least I have lots of good things and people in my life because I do believe it's going to get hard.

Well said. All the best things in life are free.

reply to last long post post by Hx3_1963

Time to invest in a bigger piggy bank?

posted on Apr, 2 2009 @ 04:38 PM
reply to post by pause4thought
I guess... the .gov one is about full of "toxic cob-webs" now...


To bad .gov doesn't have Cronie & Co Keyboards at the Fed...

Alt + Ctrl + Esc should of been their correct keyboard combinational function response to bank/insur crisis...

Crude Oil 52.64 4.25
Heating Oil 1.439 0.093
Natural Gas 3.782 0.087
Propane 0.66 0.032

Edit: Sorry fer hoggin' page bad... *Spankie*

[edit on 4/2/2009 by Hx3_1963]

posted on Apr, 2 2009 @ 04:42 PM
Hell, what I'm saying, they keep pumping money into the system which is proven to be a black hole.

This is not going to satiate the system, it is going to make it even more hungry.

It is the principle.

There is differentiation at the top of the system, all invested money goes towards the top and creates even bigger potential difference.

It's a whirlpool.

I can watch various markets, but what do I see?

They have not adjusted to the changed quantity of fiat money, what do they reflect expect their own interrelationship within the closed system.

Us, the people, are totally out. We will be squeezed out like never before.

The hyperinflation starts from above, this time. They are now counting billions like units, and soon enough it will be trillions. And on the lover levels of the pyramid - deflation. Just watch, this is unique event in history of mankind. The differentiation of the now two existing classes will be sealed within next few years.

The upper class will play with big numbers, the lower class will play with coupons, "allowances".

posted on Apr, 2 2009 @ 04:42 PM

Originally posted by redhatty

Oh oh....


No link, off wires.

The Fed continued to buy the long end today, all on-the-run securities, nearly all 5 year. A massive $26 billion were submitted against $7.5 taken, strongly implying that Ben is (obviously) intentionally overpaying in his attempt to drive rates lower.

Unfortunately its not working, as the following chart shows on the TNX, with most of the damage coming right after the auction announcement:

(see link for chart that should be here)

Now granted, this is the 10 year and Ben bought 5s. But if the intent was to depress the curve generally, well, you tell me how well he did?

The IRX, the 13 week T-bill, didn't move to any material degree.

At this rate it will not be long before The Fed owns enough of the long end of the curve to effectively by the "whip hand", at which point external financing for the government is all in the short end.

And that, my friends, is when a simple decision to run down those short-term bills leads to the inability of the government to finance itself.

The government (and Fed) will thus by forced to dramatically raise offered coupon (interest rates) right into the maw of this economic and banking mess, exactly as happened during The Depression.

Get ready Ben - here it comes!

UMM, if more were bid for then sold then that would mean that they were underpaying. If they were overpaying they would have gotten filled on all of their bids. The peiople posing as financial journalists these days make me sick.

posted on Apr, 2 2009 @ 04:51 PM
reply to post by DangerDeath
Star 4 U!

Thank You!!!

Now that, I understood perfectly!!!

I's hard when "Zen Speak" has permiated yer life style for so long...

...We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming...

DXY 84.31 (delayed)

[edit on 4/2/2009 by Hx3_1963]

posted on Apr, 2 2009 @ 04:54 PM
@ Spinkyboo: I just saw yer post on the other...UE 20.2%...

Very sad state of affairs...and I thought the UE of 17.5% E Mi was bad...

JPY 99.61
GBP 1.4726
EURO 1.3452

[edit on 4/2/2009 by Hx3_1963]

posted on Apr, 2 2009 @ 05:02 PM
For anyone who is interested in a very realistic vision of anarchy that may occur if everything goes to hell, I recommend this excellent account, from Robert D. Kaplan:

posted on Apr, 2 2009 @ 05:08 PM

Originally posted by disgustedbyhumanity
UMM, if more were bid for then sold then that would mean that they were underpaying. If they were overpaying they would have gotten filled on all of their bids. The peiople posing as financial journalists these days make me sick.

Maybe you aren't quite up to date with what is going on, Disgusted.

The FED is buying back our own Treasuries - it's not a bid, sold thing it's an offer - bought thing

We have many times more offers being submitted than Bernanke is willing to buy back at each auction, and with each auction, the amount of T's submitted climbs even higher.

While people posing as financial journalists may make you sick, my stomach discomfort comes from uneducated people who comment on things so far out of their level of knowledge like they know what they are talking about.

posted on Apr, 2 2009 @ 06:28 PM
NZSE 50 2,623.05 7:04PM ET 37.25 (1.44%)
All Ordinaries 3,657.00 7:06PM ET 34.80 (0.96%)
Gold $906.05
Think I'm going to have to get a spare TV out of my basement...

'cause I'm gonna throw a beer bottle at Larry Krudlow...REAL SOON!!!

...And here...a prior post to the part 1 earlier...

Prediction - A breakdown of markets might start to occur as soon as April

Monday 19. January 2009

Markets are getting “out of control” - Three important news over the past weekend reveal a nearing showdown in the economy, supporting my predictions for a meltdown in markets around April.

Over the past week three important events occurred. This gives further support to my prediction on the nearing global economic meltdown. My analysis predict a meltdown in the bond and currency markets starting in April, early May 2009. This will be relatively shortly, after first volatile events will most likely take place in February. In case that I am correct on this and those events, like e.g. high volatility in the gold market with peaks over 1000$ a occur, then market failures in currency and bond markets are very likely to follow. Under these aspects, I predict these failures to start in April or early May.

(*Gold did climb*)

Here is a short summary of the news supporting this scenario:

Two further bank failures in the US, accompanied with nearing bankruptcy of California show that US financing problems are deepening. The bankruptcy of banks can not be stopped and rescue plans prove to be completely ineffective.

(*Banks have failed...Cali...'nuff said*)

Anglo Irish bank and the Irish government have frozen deposits above 20 million Euro, after the bank has been fully nationalized. This shows that not event governmental control brings in the required security and causes governments to access capital rights of people. It is very likely that this model of accessing capital rights will very fast widespread and implemented in all other EU countries. (We recall that the same happened with the Irish move to secure deposits). That means investors will become unable to reposition cash into long lasting assets.

(*Ireland did lose AAA Rating*)

The Bail out plan performed by the UK government proves to be useless. RBS reported extreme losses above 20 billion pound, the largest in UK history. A new plan to guarantee assets is important.

(*RBS has reported losses...G-20*)

A new (fourth) message reached markets this morning, Monday the 19th. It appears that certain asset markets are now picking up such a momentum, that the volumes which are traded outperform anything, seen ever before. The volume frightened some of the traders, who made statements about this on CNBC, revealing a link to most likely the Future markets.

(*Latest Rally*)

In summary, my prediction is that:

We will see collapse of the markets starting in February and then entering a hot phase in April. Governments will have to increase their attempts to step-up and freeze asset classes and deposits, by accessing capital rights of people.

(*) are my remarks...scary??? hmmm

[edit on 4/2/2009 by Hx3_1963]

posted on Apr, 2 2009 @ 08:35 PM

Anyone notice the JPY went over 1.00 earlier???

Hmmm...what...the World ended and no one told me???
S&P 500 -2.00 833.50 4/2 9:18pm
Fair Value 830.66 4/2 9:01pm
Difference* +2.84

NASDAQ 0.00 1301.50 4/2 8:43pm
Fair Value 1293.58 4/2 9:01pm
Difference* +7.92

Dow Jones -28.00 7930.00 4/2 9:22pm
New Zealand 2611.99 26.19 1.01% 14:01
Australia 3668.80 46.60 1.29% 12:22
Nikkei 225 8777.60 57.82 0.66% 10:02
TOPIX 833.96 7.27 0.88% 10:02
TSE 2nd Sec 1849.53 2.52 0.14% 10:02
JASDAQ 41.15 0.07 0.17% 10:02
Korea 1276.21 -0.76 -0.06% 10:02
Taiwan 5515.54 41.76 0.76% 09:22
Taiwan OTC 84.09 1.25 1.51% 09:03
Shanghai 2425.27 -0.02 -0.00% 09:15
Shanghai A 2545.64 -0.02 -0.00% 09:15
Shanghai B 160.03 0.00 0.00% 09:15
Shenzhen A 847.62 6.67 0.79% 04/02
Shenzhen B 356.85 3.90 1.11% 04/02
SHSZ 300 2576.40 28.18 1.11% 04/02
Shenzhen comp 9300.92 144.91 1.58% 04/02
Hong Kong 14521.97 0.00 0.00% 09:29
HK CN Ent 8572.20 0.00 0.00% 04/02
HK Aff Crp 3197.80 0.00 0.00% 04/02
Singapore 1825.04 21.70 1.20% 09:07
SGX China 56.04 -0.00 0.00% 09:28
Vietnam 297.30 7.78 2.69% 04/02
Thailand 442.96 12.87 2.99% 04/02
Philippines 1982.88 15.60 0.79% 04/02
Malaysia 909.32 4.25 0.47% 09:22
Indonesia 1499.73 37.98 2.60% 04/02
India 10348.83 446.84 4.51% 04/02
Pakistan 5181.55 199.66 4.01% 04/02

[edit on 4/3/2009 by Hx3_1963]

posted on Apr, 2 2009 @ 08:41 PM
reply to post by Hx3_1963

Yep - 20% unemployment anywhere is not good.
And of course this is likely low -
Today not so good either.
All the while we are made to look at all of the
smiling wealthy faces gracing the summit.

Thur 4-2-2009

MPG -50
Creative Memories -50
Richmond Times-Dispatch -59
Hogan Hartson Law Firm -93
Berstein-Rein In Kansas City -10
Kohler Co. -455
Law Firm Mayer Brown -135
BF Goodrich Tuscaloosa -50
Taylor Made Glass Systems -78
US Postal Service -1,490
Suzuki USA -475
City of Worcester -308
Maysteel Closing Plant-89
107 Hospitals Layoff 50 or More
UTMB Galveston -3,800
NC State University -150
Klockner Pentaplast -38
Nippon Paper Mill Furloughs -75
Bombardier Aerospace -3,000
Misc. Solar Jobs -700 - Shouldn't solar jobs be important about now?
Buzz Media -15
City of St. Petersburg -10
Flint Michigan Schools -257
AIG Cuts At 38 Locations -580
i Crossing -30
Banc of America Securities -12

TOTAL 12,050+

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posted on Apr, 2 2009 @ 08:48 PM
reply to post by spinkyboo
Star 4 U!

Hope yer feelin' better today..heard you were under the weather???

Thank You for keepin' us informed...

We all need to look out for each other now...

posted on Apr, 2 2009 @ 09:27 PM
So far futures trending lower...get used to it?
...till open...??? Illogical...
S&P 500 -2.80 832.70 4/2 10:11pm
Fair Value 830.66 4/2 9:01pm
Difference* +2.04

NASDAQ -1.50 1300.00 4/2 9:52pm
Fair Value 1293.58 4/2 9:01pm
Difference* +6.42

Dow Jones -33.00 7925.00 4/2 10:01pm
Gold $902.65

[edit on 4/2/2009 by Hx3_1963]

posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 12:09 AM
reply to post by Hx3_1963

Futures traded lower yesterday as well. Resulted in a fairly good size rally.

House passes 3.55trillion dollar budget by slim majority.

Best way to cut the deficit in half, is first to double it.

On another note, Main Stream Media is slowly convincing the American populace that all is fine and dandy! 23% according to CNN polls now say the Job Market is accelerating the creation of jobs, and over all improving.

Considering March we lost a RECORD 740+ THOUSAND jobs.

Which next month will be revised to closer to 800 thousand.

People are retarded. This is what self-governing brings us.

posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 01:17 AM
reply to post by Hx3_1963

Dear God! That made me want to cry Hx3. In the back of my mind I have known what is going to happen, but the fact is I thought I had till summer to prepare! Seeing it written down like that is just mind blowing to the extreme. I can hardly comprehend what is going to happen now. I've had the feeling that things were speeding up and I needed to prepare but I have been so preoccupied with trying to find a good job (still unemployed) that everything else was put a side.

Life just gets worse when you move back into your mothers house at my age to save money.

I think I'll go to Lowes tomorrow and double the size of my mothers garden!

posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 01:27 AM
I about pissed myself when i saw this:

G-20 Shapes New World Order With Lesser Role for U.S., Markets

Calling it blatantly the rise of a New World Order is not going to help them win the hearts and minds of the people... I think ATS just found ammunition for the next decade.

posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 01:33 AM
reply to post by Rockpuck

I have been watching CNN all night with Anderson Cooper... kind of half listening to the British people he's had as guests... I turn my head and glance at the TV... what do I see?


Anyone else want to shoot someone in the foot?

posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 02:32 AM

FDIC may force CITI and Wells Fargo to write down twice as much than they have already and sell assets!

Everything's fine nothing to see here

posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 02:53 AM

Originally posted by RetinoidReceptor

FDIC may force CITI and Wells Fargo to write down twice as much than they have already and sell assets!

Everything's fine nothing to see here

That should say Citi and Bank of America, because Wells Fargo is in a better position than Bof A has ever been. BofA has a much larger dirivatives stake than Wells does for sure. I think perhaps they aren't jumping BofA as of yet due to the fact that they are the only ones to handle many of the gov's mortgage grants. Wouldn't look to good for them if they started riding their backs after crowning them with the gov's blessing.

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