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The "up-to-the-minute Market Data" thread

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posted on Mar, 26 2009 @ 10:28 AM

Originally posted by Hx3_1963
Anyone listerning to the hearings?

I could swear I just hear TTT & a Cong Mem talking about global over sight on all this, global that...

...and agreeing with each other...

...seems we might be in fer a IMF SDR???

i have 1 ear to the hearings... and its turning out just as anticipated...

the Fed/Treas want a new governing entity (to ostensibly oversight & regulate) the new & more permissive financial products....
firstly in the USA
Then using the USA model, and the recently manufactured 'rally'
as reassurance that the markets & the masses support this oversight
& regulatory 'Central Planning' entity.

I suggested, from other articles, that this new global entity might be
called a 'Global Supervisory Group'... & that is what Geithner will be pushing for at the G-20...
and is right now pushing for at the hearings today.

Geithner & the Fed, want to create a 'Central Planning Group' that control
U.S. banks (as they do now), but also large Funds, Pensions, Hedge funds, Insurance company portfilos, & all financial firms/providers...

All which would be unnecessary if the Glass-Steagall Act was re-instituted,
the up-tick rule re-instated, and naked-shorting disallowed....

~wow~ all the things that kept the markets sane, honest (as possible), and growing since the middle of the Great Depression era until the middle 1990s when the 'new economy' delirium got the leadership all knotted in the brain & repealed all the regulating & containment rules regarding markets.

Geithner wants to rush through (recall the $700bn TARP bill) another destruction of the constitution..
in that; the States themselves are supposed to regulate insurance companies such as AIG.... & not the Treas. or the Fed or any new controlling entity under the direction of these 2 agencies.


[edit on 26-3-2009 by St Udio]

posted on Mar, 26 2009 @ 11:06 AM

DeAnne Julius warns recession could last five years


Other participants warned that politicians were building up too high expectations on the outcome of the G20 summit of world leaders, which takes place in London next week.

Jim O'Neill, the chief economist of Goldman Sachs, said that it was unrealistic to expect countries to agree coordinated action to fight the downturn by increasing government spending.

Budget decisions would remain under control of national Parliaments, he said, and central banks, which were now mostly independent of governments, would also take their own decisions.

He was also sceptical about the G20's ability to move to an international system of financial regulation.

Without better national regulation, any attempt at international standards was doomed to failure, he reasoned, insisting that neither the US nor China would be prepared to have their banking regulations dictated by a new international body.


Many experts and business leaders agreed that a key task of the G20 summit was to encourage free trade and avoid protectionism.

But there was a fear that nationalism was re-emerging despite the rhetoric. Mr O'Neill spoke for many when he said that "words have to be matched by deeds" at the summit.
More at Link...

Sounds like the G-20 Meeting is doomed to failure before they even pack their Suitcases...

posted on Mar, 26 2009 @ 11:30 AM
Don't Click This Link

Seriously, this is not "G" rated, or even "PG", and I can't even fairly call it "R" rated.

This is "XXX", and not for sexual content either.

Those of you reading this from the political space need to pay attention, because sentiment like this is showing up in more and more places, starting with "Hal Turner's infamous reference to "banker baseball" (think about it for a second and it should be obvious what was being referred to) a few weeks ago.

Justice is necessary here folks, and justice doesn't come in the form of multi-trillion-dollar bailouts to the big banks both here and abroad.

It would be one thing if this economic mess was all a matter of accident, but it wasn't. Far too much of this was simple fraud - promising things that the people doing the promising knew they couldn't possibly make good on, whether it was someone claiming to have $300,000 in income when they really made $50,000 or whether it was someone selling over $2 trillion in CDS backed by less than $100 billion in actual capital - without a hedge.

I have many times referred to anger rising in the American population, but this little screed on The Internet makes clear exactly how pissed off some people are getting.

I firmly believe that the law can be the best form of justice when people do really evil things, mostly because death at the hands of an angry mob is usually fast if brutal but life in prison always looking over your shoulder in the yard is a special kind of Hell.

What the politicians need to understand is that when the public's demand for justice rises as it has been for the last year or so you can't placate it by getting 50 people to return bonuses from AIG or by putting Madoff in prison.

You need to go get the bad guys - a lot of them - and try them in our public courts, with public indictments and public juries, and do it to enough of these malfeasors so that everyone "gets it" - if you pull this in the future, you WILL be brought to justice and punished, just like the guys who did it this time. Promises to do it "next time" won't do.

The people of this nation are rapidly coming to the conclusion that government is a willing co-conspirator in bed with the robber barons, and that, folks, is a place that I absolutely do not wish to see us descend to.

In that particular circle of Hell we can lose our nation's government. Let's not, instead choosing to indict, prosecute and imprison, ok?

(If you insist on reading the link, after having been warned and being willing to read a profanity-laced diatribe, click here.)

Personal Disclaimer: If you are upset by "colorful" language, avoid this - It's equivalent to Skittles, Taste the Rainbow in color intensity

posted on Mar, 26 2009 @ 11:31 AM
Gold $941.27
United States 7857.50 107.69 1.39% 12:24
NASDAQ 1568.38 39.43 2.58% 12:23
Rus 2000 437.62 11.10 2.60% 12:23
S&P 500 826.31 12.43 1.53% 12:24
Gold & Silver 141.62 2.21 1.58% 12:09
PreMetals 283.48 5.04 1.81% 12:15
Gold GOX 169.36 2.70 1.62% 12:24
Gold Bugs 340.08 5.88 1.76% 12:24
AMEX Energy 460.95 4.46 0.98% 12:24
NYSE Energy 9016.76 70.16 0.78% 12:23
Oil Services 139.71 2.11 1.53% 12:09
AMEX Oil 907.71 4.49 0.50% 12:24
PHLX Semi. 241.66 10.17 4.39% 12:09
NASDAQ Fin. 1659.93 19.62 1.20% 12:24
NYSE Finance 3035.82 25.33 0.84% 12:24
NBI 692.07 9.28 1.36% 12:24
AMEX BioTec 654.49 10.89 1.69% 12:24
PHLX Drug 144.74 -0.07 -0.05% 12:09
Canada 8955.81 158.37 1.80% 12:24
Brazil 42409.72 610.42 1.46% 13:09
Mexico 20615.93 343.16 1.69% 11:04
Argentina 1149.63 17.31 1.53% 13:04
Chile 2555.71 8.73 0.34% 13:24
Peru 9145.89 432.34 4.96% 11:08
Colombia 8081.54 50.35 0.63% 10:52
Venezuela 43142.87 231.50 0.54% 11:29
Bermuda 2303.96 -100.04 -4.16% 03/24
Jamaica 79756.72 367.20 0.46% 11:45
Russia 752.63 11.69 1.58% 03/26
London 3920.39 20.14 0.52% 16:11
Paris 2877.63 -15.82 -0.55% 17:11
Frankfurt 4247.22 23.93 0.57% 17:12
Turkey 25409.83 -126.56 -0.50% 17:08
Hungary 11568.27 253.75 2.24% 16:36
Austria 1711.36 10.84 0.64% 17:11
Poland 25386.25 -90.95 -0.36% 16:40
Czech 810.70 3.70 0.46% 16:01
Sweden 666.57 0.81 0.12% 17:26
Finland 4747.52 -54.25 -1.13% 18:24
Norway 213.95 3.75 1.79% 17:12
Greece 1714.00 19.72 1.16% 17:19
Italy 13141.00 73.00 0.56% 17:07
Luxembourg 897.19 9.22 1.04% 17:23
Netherlands 223.98 -1.57 -0.70% 17:12
Iceland 215.59 0.78 0.36% 16:10
Denmark 235.70 5.50 2.39% 17:21
Switzerland 4919.80 -50.58 -1.02% 17:12
Spain 845.50 -2.33 -0.28% 17:10
Portugal 2108.17 6.74 0.32% 03/25
Ireland 2171.86 13.19 0.61% 16:12
Israel 744.35 26.58 3.70% 16:25
Egypt 403.60 11.24 2.86% 14:30
S. Africa 19166.89 -140.47 -0.73% 17:00
Morocco 21961.52 147.08 0.67% 03/24
Jordan 2701.40 4.39 0.16% 14:59
UAE Dubai 1588.41 -2.59 -0.16% 13:58

posted on Mar, 26 2009 @ 11:45 AM
I'm there any reason for this market to be up right now? The markets are losing its good judgment appeal more everyday. It is resembling a casino than an economic mirror

posted on Mar, 26 2009 @ 11:54 AM
reply to post by redhatty

That guy is fed up. If even .01% of the population feels that way, then things could boil over sooner than we think.

Yeah, don't click that link.

posted on Mar, 26 2009 @ 11:55 AM
reply to post by RetinoidReceptor
...It's always been a Casino...people are just noticing it now...

...and here's some of the results...

Schwarzenegger Promises To Help Tent City

GM says 12 percent of UAW workers take buyouts

posted on Mar, 26 2009 @ 12:09 PM
reply to post by RetinoidReceptor

Holy cow! Batman, Pull your putts and clean your shorts!

posted on Mar, 26 2009 @ 12:24 PM
Dow Jones Industrial Average 7,919.14 1:22pm ET 169.33 (2.18%)
S&P 500 INDEX,RTH 831.53 1:22pm ET 17.65 (2.17%)
NASDAQ Composite 1,579.01 1:23pm ET 50.06 (3.27%)
Gold $939.40

posted on Mar, 26 2009 @ 12:26 PM
I don't think Cali is going to last much longer.

Banning Black Cars?

This is nuts they pass and keep passing asinine legislation like this California isn't going to have anybody left to tax!

I find this pertinent to the market because if Cali collapses the rest of the US is right behind it.

Yea I had to get some food in me and get my mind working Hx3. Completely missed that you already posted the correct info after I posted it wrong twice.

[edit on 26-3-2009 by Hastobemoretolife]

posted on Mar, 26 2009 @ 12:45 PM
Washington Post to offer new buyouts in '09

New York Times lays off staff, seeks pay cuts

...This should make TPTB happy...

The more that go under, the less reporting of their agenda...

@ Hasto: It's all good!!! The Gov does it all the time...

...Well...move that 5 over here...that 9 over there...that's the ticket!!!

United States 7894.61 144.80 1.87% 13:54
Dow Jones Industrial Average 7,905.05 2:03pm ET 155.24 (2.00%)
Dow Jones Industrial Average 7,920.02 2:05pm ET 170.21 (2.20%)

NASDAQ 1573.28 44.33 2.90% 13:53
Rus 2000 439.89 13.37 3.13% 13:53
S&P 500 829.07 15.19 1.87% 13:54
Gold & Silver 141.66 2.25 1.61% 13:39
PreMetals 283.60 5.16 1.85% 13:53
Gold GOX 168.81 2.15 1.29% 13:54
Gold Bugs 339.07 4.87 1.46% 13:53
AMEX Energy 462.84 6.35 1.39% 13:53
NYSE Energy 9045.90 99.30 1.11% 13:53
Oil Services 139.30 1.70 1.24% 13:39
AMEX Oil 912.48 9.26 1.02% 13:53
PHLX Semi. 242.41 10.92 4.72% 13:39
NASDAQ Fin. 1664.38 24.07 1.47% 13:53
NYSE Finance 3041.39 30.90 1.03% 13:53
NBI 695.82 13.03 1.91% 13:53
AMEX BioTec 657.14 13.54 2.10% 13:53
PHLX Drug 145.92 1.11 0.77% 13:39
Canada 9006.53 209.09 2.38% 13:54
Brazil 42459.51 660.21 1.58% 14:39
Mexico 20719.07 446.30 2.20% 12:34
Argentina 1167.85 35.53 3.14% 14:32
Chile 2556.40 9.42 0.37% 14:50
Peru 9073.12 359.57 4.13% 12:37
Colombia 8023.65 -7.54 -0.09% 12:22
Venezuela 43120.49 209.12 0.49% 13:13
Bermuda 2303.96 -100.04 -4.16% 03/24
Jamaica 79279.46 -110.06 -0.14% 13:20

[edit on 3/26/2009 by Hx3_1963]

posted on Mar, 26 2009 @ 01:29 PM

Fears of unrest in eastern Europe grow as Czech government collapses
Presidency of EU in question as Mirek Topolanek loses confidence vote

The collapse of the Czech government sent shivers through financial markets in eastern Europe yesterday fanning fears about the growing political unrest that appears to be sweeping through the EU's eastern fringes.

Prime Minister Mirek Topolanek's government narrowly lost a vote of no-confidence on Tuesday night, four days after the Hungarian leader, Ferenc Gyuarcsany, threw in the towel and five weeks after the Latvian government fell under a barrage of public protests. Most of eastern Europe's main currencies lost value yesterday as Czechs pondered the impact of Mr Topolanek's defeat, while Romania turned to the IMF for a €20bn lifeline.

The government in Prague was fatally wounded by a series of scandals rather than looming financial meltdown, but with its removal another element of uncertainty has been added to eastern Europe's volatile mix of economic weakness, political frailty and rising public discontent.

The Czech Republic is not being crushed by a mountain of debt or huge trade imbalance, as are Hungary, Ukraine and Latvia, but it is suffering as major export markets like Germany shrink. Like the neighbouring Poles and Slovaks, Czechs are braced for a sharp economic slowdown this year, although have no need for an emergency IMF or EU cash injection.

Yet, Mr Topolanek's fall will be particularly chastening for many leaders around eastern Europe precisely because he has presided over one of the region's most stable economies.

"The lost vote is yet more proof that the situation in the region isn't either economically or politically stable, especially taking into account that the Czech Republic was seen as one of the best countries in eastern Europe," said Bartosz Pawlowski, a strategist at TD Securities in London,"so it's hard to expect investors will now be seeking to invest their money in other countries, like Poland or Hungary."


On the brink: The sick men of Europe


A few months ago, it was the EU's fastest growing economy, with growth of nearly 11 per cent. Now Latvia faces economic ruin. In February the government collapsed following violent demonstrations in the capital Riga in protest at the government's handling of the crisis and steep IMF-imposed cutbacks. Farmers have blockaded the capital in protest at plummeting incomes, while unemployment has risen to 10.4 per cent, more than double what it was a year ago.


Premier Ferenc Gyurcsany resigned last weekend amid efforts to impose austerity cutbacks demanded by the IMF. Hungary was the first EU member to seek an IMF bailout to stave off economic collapse. The Hungarian economy is expected to contract by as much as 3.5 per cent this year. Public sector unrest over tax and pension reforms is at boiling point and social tensions have risen with "Gypsies" blamed by nationalist groups for a crime wave linked to the worsening economic conditions.


Demonstrations occur almost daily as the country teeters on the brink of collapse. Economic output has plummeted and Russia continues to meddle in its energy industry. Despite this, President Viktor Yushchenko and Prime Minister Julia Tymoshenko are still locked in a power struggle that has paralysed Ukrainian politics since the 2004 Orange Revolution. Now the IMF has postponed payment of the second tranche of a $16.4bn loan due to their failure to agree on a budget.
More at Link...

Hope they can contain this...

I've been keeping my Occular Implants on this area...

French boss barricaded in office by employees

Two former generals indicted for plot to overthrow Turkish government

[edit on 3/26/2009 by Hx3_1963]

posted on Mar, 26 2009 @ 01:41 PM

Originally posted by Donny 4 million
reply to post by RetinoidReceptor

Holy cow! Batman, Pull your putts and clean your shorts!

I haven't been in the market . I figured the rally could last a little while longer. But until then, things are too expensive at the moment.

posted on Mar, 26 2009 @ 01:42 PM
No market for me either lately but damn...why are tech stocks on the rise too?
It's like there is "reality" and then there's "the market",LOL!
I'm just too a-skered to day trade right now.

One of the best articles on the "situation" I have read,long but worth it:

The Big Takeover (Matt Taibbi for Rolling Stone):

[edit on 26-3-2009 by irishchic]

posted on Mar, 26 2009 @ 02:25 PM
Dow Jones Industrial Average 7,859.57 3:23pm ET 109.76 (1.42%)
S&P 500 INDEX,RTH 825.46 3:24pm ET 11.58 (1.42%)
NASDAQ Composite 1,569.09 3:24pm ET 40.14 (2.63%)
Gold $938.00
Oil $54.00

posted on Mar, 26 2009 @ 02:30 PM
Question: is the market going up due to the options expiring?
2nd line

posted on Mar, 26 2009 @ 02:35 PM
reply to post by Hx3_1963

Oh man, I don't want to be like the government...

And the G20 is almost doomed before it even starts. I have a feeling Obama is going to get smacked down in that meeting.

posted on Mar, 26 2009 @ 02:36 PM
reply to post by irishchic
Ya know girl...I have no ideas about anything anymore...

Nothing is making any sense at any level anymore...

It's a World gone Mad I tell you...Mad!!!

Dow Jones Industrial Average 7,896.92 3:38pm ET 147.11 (1.90%)
Dow Jones Industrial Average 7,924.08 3:46pm ET 174.27 (2.25%)

S&P 500 INDEX,RTH 829.24 3:38pm ET 15.36 (1.89%)
NASDAQ Composite 1,570.33 3:39pm ET 41.38 (2.71%)

@ IC: Tornado threat for yer area?

[edit on 3/26/2009 by Hx3_1963]

posted on Mar, 26 2009 @ 02:38 PM
reply to post by irishchic

Most contracts expire on a Saturday but you have to trade them on the Friday before. Holidays can be a problem if you are unaware.

posted on Mar, 26 2009 @ 03:01 PM
reply to post by Hx3_1963

I hear you...I keep trying to rationalize with what I "think I know" when there IS no sanity involved,LOL!

Torando warnings last night,heavy rain and lightning this am and now the freakin' sun is out!
Texas weather is like the earthly rhyme or reason!

[edit on 26-3-2009 by irishchic]

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