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The "up-to-the-minute Market Data" thread

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posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 03:03 PM
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www.cnbc.com...

DJIA
FUTURES FUTURES FAIR VALUE (19.38)

7278.38 7215.0 -137.00 7234.38 7215.0 -19.38
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S&P 500
FUTURES FUTURES FAIR VALUE (-10.51)

768.54 776.0 -4.10 765.49 776.0 10.51
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NASDAQ
FUTURES FUTURES FAIR VALUE (0.38)

1187.18 1188.0 -15.50 1188.38 1188.0 -0.38
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money.cnn.com...

S&P 500 -16.00 764.10 3/20 9:14am
Fair Value 780.17 3/19 8:56pm
Difference* -16.07

NASDAQ -15.50 1188.00 3/20 9:13am
Fair Value 1204.12 3/19 8:56pm
Difference* -16.12

Dow Jones +39.00 7215.00 3/20 9:13am


Anyone know if these top numbers are right???

If so...Wall St no-likey...


BTW: Asian Markets open soon so watch that also...
finance.yahoo.com...
www.bloomberg.com...

[edit on 3/22/2009 by Hx3_1963]




posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 03:09 PM
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These are the quotes from Bloomberg

DJIA INDEX 7,212.00 -3.00 16:34

The DJI is the only one that is current. The S&P and NAS are from Friday. I should add the future quotes from Bloomberg are from Friday.

[edit on 22-3-2009 by Hastobemoretolife]



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 03:12 PM
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OK???

Just wondering where those CNBC numbers are coming from...

I hope it doesn't slide that much, but, if the bottom drops out...wouldn't surprise me in the least...



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 03:20 PM
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I would be interested to find out how many fewer traders on the floor there are now than a few years back. The CBOT is not nearly as active on the floor as it was in 07'. I know it's a big duh!, but seems like some of these big moves are not happening on the floor in quantity transactions.

$200 billion in totebags, there's a start
www.bloomberg.com...



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 03:22 PM
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I don't know I think those Bloomberg futures are off too 1600 is 4 O'clock, well it isn't even 4:30 yet east coast time.

I don't know maybe CNBC quotes are right?

It really wouldn't surprise me the Treasury plan isn't exactly anything new.

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Yahoo has the DJI futures down 140 on Friday at close. Don't know if that is pertinent info or not though.

[edit on 22-3-2009 by Hastobemoretolife]



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 03:26 PM
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I keep hearing about stuff like that...

Traders not seeing a lot of volume on some of those moves...

Waiting for a really high volume selling/buying trend to call some kind of bottom...copitulaion...
Zero would work...

DJIA 0.00
S&P 0.00
NASDAQ 0.00

Futures 0.00




JPMorgan Might Lose Dimon to a Geithner Flameout: David Reilly
www.bloomberg.com...

March 20 (Bloomberg) -- It was like Treasury Secretary Dimon said the other day.

Whoa. Back up there. Treasury Secretary Dimon?

Well, it may only be a matter of time before we’re using that honorific when talking about JPMorgan Chase & Co. Chief Executive Officer Jamie Dimon.

Current Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner’s hold on the position weakens by the hour. If the need arises for a replacement, Dimon might be a leading candidate.

The JPMorgan chief is one of the few financial leaders who could restore confidence among investors, business leaders and, importantly, foreign governments and central banks.

For JPMorgan, such a scenario could prove worrisome. Shareholders have relied on Dimon’s steady hand during the crisis, while the chief executive has achieved rock-star status among the bank’s staff.

A Dimon departure would also test his organization’s bench strength at a time when banks face a slew of challenges.

Of course, talk of a Geithner departure, never mind a Dimon appointment, may be a stretch. Dimon hasn’t expressed interest, and Geithner has been on the job less than two months.

Replacing Geithner would signal an administration in disarray. Plus, the president earlier this week said he had “complete confidence” in the Treasury head.
More at Link...

Hhhmmm...berry berry intwesting...


GM bondholders raise concerns with U.S. task force
www.reuters.com...

[edit on 3/22/2009 by Hx3_1963]



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 03:43 PM
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Originally posted by Hastobemoretolife

Yahoo has the DJI futures down 140 on Friday at close. Don't know if that is pertinent info or not though.

[edit on 22-3-2009 by Hastobemoretolife]


That was yesterday's closing. Futures weren't traded then.



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 04:15 PM
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The Wall Street Journal

MARCH 22, 2009, 4:14 P.M. ET

Letter:GM Bondholders Doubt Plan Can Save Co From Bankruptcy




By Sharon Terlep
Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES DETROIT (Dow Jones)--A group representing General Motors Corp. (GM) bondholders doubts whether the auto maker's survival plan will be enough to keep the company out of bankruptcy given the sharp decline in U.S. vehicle sales.

In a letter sent Sunday to U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and advisors to President Barack Obama's auto task force, advisors to the group say demands that bondholders swap two-thirds of their debt for equity in a restructured GM pose too much risk given the company's precarious state.

The debt-for-equity swap is a critical part of GM's plan to restructure out of bankruptcy with help from up to $30 billion in federal loans.

"We are concerned that the company is putting too much faith in a near-term turnaround in the economy that would enable annual car and truck sales to reach previous levels," says the letter, from bondholder advisors Houlihan Lokey Howard & Zukin Capital, Inc. "We do not know if the plan would, in fact, keep the company out of bankruptcy (in which case the securities received by the bondholders in an exchange would likely be worthless and the retirement funds and others who counted on these securities would be left with nothing)."

The bondholder group is seeking a more flexible deal from the government. Terms of GM's $16.4 billion federal loan call for bondholders to swap two-thirds of their debt for equity and to accept non-preferencial treatment behind non-bondholder creditors.

The group says it proposed a deal that would have met the two-thirds requirement, but has received no response from GM or Treasury.




Read the Rest HERE



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posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 04:17 PM
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Originally posted by Hx3_1963
reply to post by pause4thought
 
That chart reminds me of the one I was using to gauge the current market to the '29-'32 market...

Seems we're not the only ones seeing a definite correlation...


BTW: Did you ever pass on my keyboard function combinational solution to Stander?


[edit on 3/22/2009 by Hx3_1963]


Firstly - all credit goes to the Lady in Pink for bringing in the chart! I daresay many 'mainstreamers' have perceived the similarities for some considerable time, but baulked at admitting the same.

As you know, bolder analysts, along with ATS-ers, have been firmly on the ball for months, even years. This discussion serves to illustrate:

Are We in for a Greater Depression? 1929 vs 2008 DJIA

(-the external links are well worth a glance)

Your charts have indeed served to remind us that previous assessments were well-founded and that the respective congruities continue.

Re the function keys: stander got all up tight and started smashing his keyboard in manic rage. He thereby inadvertently bought heavily into GM, and is now inconsolable.



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 04:24 PM
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Yep I learned long ago...never beat yer keyboard whilst parked on a trading platform page...expecially GM's


Also looking into the Cronie & Associates Inc keyboards...


Seems to be the only chance of gaining an advantage these days...

(other than working at one of afore mentioned companys/agencys)


Edit: A guy on Fox news right now is talking about millions of Mexican possibly over running our border and Gov is preping "Camps" for that posibility...hhhmmm...

Fox News Discusses Mexico Exodus & Camps?
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Earley yet but...

New Zealand
NZX 50 FF GROSS INDEX 2,589.95 -9.08 -0.35% 17:01
NZX TOP 10 INDEX 754.55 -4.12 -0.54% 17:01
NZX 15 GROSS INDEX 4,818.94 -25.28 -0.52% 17:01
NZX ALL INDEX 650.63 -2.45 -0.38% 17:02

NZSE 50 2,583.084 5:14PM ET -15.942 (-0.61%)

[edit on 3/22/2009 by Hx3_1963]



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 05:09 PM
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www.reuters.com...

Even the name of this reeks of confusion: "THe Public Private Investment Program."


"Tomorrow, Treasury will announce details of the next component: the Public Private Investment Program, which will invest alongside private investors in funds that will provide a market for the legacy loans and securities that currently burden the financial system" Treasury said in an announcement.

Is this being created so that "investors" will yet again rally and plunk their monies into "funds" that will once again,be used to further the cause?
I'm seeing where they just want to get their greasy talons on ALL the wealth and God-help any of us that are holding back,LOL!

I keep seeing the term"private investors" but NO definition of exactly who that may be? Also read that some might be sold to highest bidder...boy...that's a lil' roulet I'm not going to throw down to play in.
Will these be in the form of bonds or other "tangible" asset or simply an "investment fund" that one might have the honor of buying into?
Is there a clear picture of what this plan is?

Seriously,my few remaining brain cells,those that have escaped either Tequilla or bad romance-stress are truly begging for relief.


Big O on 60 minutes in a few...I will be dammed if I get sucked into the rockstar performance yet again.He lost all credibility with me after the Leno appearance. (Not that he had much to start with)



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 05:13 PM
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Darlin': I live in South Texas...I do believe it's already happened.


I am not kidding when I tell you I was one of a VERY small handful of Anglo-chicks at the public zoo yesterday.

The trucking issue however is one that does concern me mostly because of the safety-issues.A family member was involved in an accident with a Mexican truck and as they had NO insurance that was valid in the US,the driver was allowed to leave the site,leaving him to cover the truck-caused incident on HIS insurance.Not fair,sorry.

www.forbes.com...

[edit on 22-3-2009 by irishchic]

[edit on 22-3-2009 by irishchic]



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 05:21 PM
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I read about the tarriffs...here comes the protectionism that everyones been warning about...


DJIA 7278.38 7265.0 +50.00
S&P 500 768.54 776.0 -4.10
NASDAQ 1187.18 1194.5 +6.50

[edit on 3/22/2009 by Hx3_1963]



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 06:04 PM
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I keep seeing the term"private investors" but NO definition of exactly who that may be?


Here's a bit from an article I was just reading that speaks to that point.


The steady accumulation of treasuries by government retirement funds has helped absorb the supply of treasury bonds for over three decades. This accumulation of government debt to secure the retirement of baby boomers helped drive down treasury yields and fund deficit spending. As of September 2008, the four biggest of these funds held 3.3 trillion treasuries:
Today, the accumulation of treasuries by government retirement funds is over. Baby boomers are beginning to retire, increasing outflows, and unemployment is rising, cutting inflows. More importantly, the 3.3 trillion already accumulated in these funds provides an enormous political incentive to prevent treasury prices from collapsing. Faced with a run on treasuries, politicians, rather than explaining to baby boomers that their retirement savings are gone, will instruct the fed to monetize treasury bonds. This alone will prevent the fed from reversing its current balance sheet expansion.

www.marketoracle.co.uk...

While the article is talking about treasuries, I thought that it gave an insight into who the gov't thinks they can hoodwink yet again with this public/private fiasco. They don't seem to realize that the Boomers are going to be withdrawing funds for retirement now, not the other way around! Just a thought......



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 06:06 PM
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Originally posted by Hx3_1963
I read about the tarriffs...here comes the protectionism that everyones been warning about...


DJIA 7278.38 7265.0 +50.00
S&P 500 768.54 776.0 -4.10
NASDAQ 1187.18 1194.5 +6.50

[edit on 3/22/2009 by Hx3_1963]


That protectionism has been going on for some time now. It isn't anything new to the governmental bodies that have been dealing with it. Most of it has been under the guise of products not being up to the standards of said countries. There are even several that helped develop Monsanto crap that are now refusing to allow it into their countries. Instead choosing to grow their own and import from sister countries.(the EU)
Marg was going to help me gather info on it and possibly companies that have gone under as a cause of it. BUT let me tell you what I did one search and came up with over 25000 articles on it. It may take awhile to meddle out the older ones from back around 2005 when it went full steam.(some are from way back like 1998) Will have to wait till Monday when hub goes back to work
He is on a cleaning ut the garage binge. Have sometime now cause he went to the dumps......



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 06:09 PM
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A lurker question sir, where do those quotes come from?

DJ30

SP500

the ones you are listing now?



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by Seany
reply to post by Hx3_1963
 


A lurker question sir, where do those quotes come from?

DJ30

SP500

the ones you are listing now?


Index futures contracts.



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 06:25 PM
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I use a couple...this one started coming up first tonight...

CNBC
www.cnbc.com...

This the one I use mostly...

CNN Money
money.cnn.com...

S&P 500 +4.90 769.00 3/22 7:12pm
Fair Value 764.67 3/21 8:18pm
Difference* +4.33

NASDAQ +4.50 1192.50 3/22 6:19pm
Fair Value 1186.77 3/21 8:18pm
Difference* +5.73

Dow Jones +48.00 7263.00 3/22 7:14pm



NZSE 50 2,603.074 7:09PM ET 4.048 (0.16%)
All Ordinaries 3,414.90 7:30PM ET 9.90 (0.29%)

(Not sure if Nikkei is open tonite...anyone know?)

[edit on 3/22/2009 by Hx3_1963]



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 06:32 PM
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Originally posted by Hx3_1963
reply to post by Seany
 
I use a couple...this one started coming up first tonight...

CNBC
www.cnbc.com...

This the one I use mostly...

CNN Money
money.cnn.com...

S&P 500 +4.90 769.00 3/22 7:12pm
Fair Value 764.67 3/21 8:18pm
Difference* +4.33

NASDAQ +4.50 1192.50 3/22 6:19pm
Fair Value 1186.77 3/21 8:18pm
Difference* +5.73

Dow Jones +48.00 7263.00 3/22 7:14pm



NZSE 50 2,603.074 7:09PM ET 4.048 (0.16%)
All Ordinaries 3,414.90 7:30PM ET 9.90 (0.29%)

(Not sure if Nikkei is open tonite...anyone know?)

[edit on 3/22/2009 by Hx3_1963]


It will be at 8PM.



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 06:36 PM
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ty sir , I think my question was , my fault for not being clearer ,soz,

Are these figures from an "open market" somewhere

or an analyst figures ?



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