The "up-to-the-minute Market Data" thread

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S&P 500 -5.10 715.40 3/12 2:46am
Fair Value 718.36 3/11 9:57pm
Difference* -2.96

NASDAQ -8.00 1117.00 3/12 2:10am
Fair Value 1127.54 3/11 9:57pm
Difference* -10.54

Dow Jones -49.00 6865.00 3/12 2:44am

Back to lower expectation Fence Sitting again...
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Shanghai Composite 2,133.40 2:47AM ET -5.62 (-0.26%)
Hang Seng 11,910.04 2:47AM ET -20.62 (-0.17%)
Straits Times 1,493.68 3:02AM ET -11.83 (-0.79%)

China
CSI 300 INDEX 2,215.70 -4.68 -0.21% 03:01

Seems to have risen a bit... fake on Nikkei?
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Gold $915.11

[edit on 3/12/2009 by Hx3_1963]

reply to post by Tentickles


Yea it does, the thing about it is that our current brilliant politicians are going to try to inflate our way out of this mess. That will lead to runaway inflation. Imagine that just when they think they are about to take over the world, China an unexpected player pops up and threatens to take it all over.

The craziest thing about it is that they did it through capitalism. Meanwhile countries are moving away from socialism and we are trying to run too it.

reply to post by Hx3_1963

The CDS/CDO's are going to sink the whole world. That is why everything is moving so fast, everybody at the top knows what is holding the whole system up and they all want to get paid. There is simply not enough hard currency to go around.

If they switch to a new currency it isn't going to fly, because the holders are going to want hard cash. China is buying up all thing things that could possibly have any value. Which puts China in a power position. The G is trying to put China out because they know China has the capacity to bully their way to whatever they want.

The world is in a gridlock. Nobody wants to buy bonds from any country. Everybody wants things with intrinsic value, not more debt. Japan and America want to spend money they don't have, and China wants to spend money on it self.

America is trying to push China into a position to force them to abort their takeover plans by inflating our way out of this debt. Except it is such a plain as day move that everybody sees what we are trying to do and nobody wants any part of it.

If China doesn't keep lending to us then we will monetize the debt and screw everybody. China is making plans to go ahead and take that loss by installing a safety net for everybody and buying up everything that is going to be of value.



[edit on 12-3-2009 by Hastobemoretolife]

reply to post by Hx3_1963

March 12 (Bloomberg) -- Four Citigroup Inc. executives who bought the bank’s stock last week have already generated a $2.2 million paper profit, regulatory filings show.

Reeks of Insider Trading if you ask me.

reply to post by Rockpuck
That's the first thing that came to my mind as well...

Buy in...float a rumor memo...haul bags of money out the back door...

Now...who's gonna say anything???

Can you say..."wha...you talkin' to me..."? (SEC)


Talk about looting the Treasury on the way out...literally!!!

@ Hasto: By Jobe I believe you got it!!!

Star 4 U!



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Now the USD is going up again...what gives?
ichart.finance.yahoo.com...

[edit on 3/12/2009 by Hx3_1963]

This is my opinion of stock market brokers:
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/688706df3d25.gif[/atsimg]

Yup that's it.

reply to post by Tentickles
Star 4 U!

Oh...I get it now...

JGB futures rise, auction shows fair demand from banks
www.reuters.com...

TOKYO, March 12 (Reuters) - Japanese government bond futures rose on Thursday after a smooth five-year auction showed banks' demand for JGBs remains solid amid the economic slump.

:snip:

JGB futures also got a boost from a strong performance by U.S. Treasuries.

U.S. Treasuries rallied on Wednesday after demand at a record reopening of 10-year notes was not as weak as feared. U.S. government bonds extended gains in Asian trade on Thursday.

...since Japan hold ton's of our debt...if they can sell, our held debt is still safe for the moment...hhhmmm...


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S&P 500 -5.40 715.10 3/12 3:16am
Fair Value 718.36 3/11 9:57pm
Difference* -3.26

NASDAQ -6.75 1118.25 3/12 3:13am
Fair Value 1127.54 3/11 9:57pm
Difference* -9.29

Dow Jones -49.00 6865.00 3/12 2:44am
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Gold $914.40
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Straits Times 1,493.69 3:26AM ET -11.82 (-0.79%)

[edit on 3/12/2009 by Hx3_1963]

reply to post by Hx3_1963


It's checkmate for everybody at this point. It all comes down to who is going to have the resources to rebuild the fastest. Whoever wins becomes the new Global Power Player to play Imperialism.

China is going to expand their Empire if they can keep the people from rebellion. First though they are going to forge a strong relationship with Russia. Then they are going to take over Africa, then South America, by the time they get done with those two goals, Europe and North America will be sufficiently weakened for them to be able to invade and take right over with minimal conflict.

They are going to do what they have done for centuries they aren't going to literally fight a war with most of these countries they are going to simply absorb countries like Sudan, Somalia, etc by paying off the dictators and let them continue to live like kings, so they are amassing more troops.

They aren't even going to fire a shot they are just going to simply price the world out of the market.

[edit on 12-3-2009 by Hastobemoretolife]

reply to post by Hastobemoretolife
It's all part of their philosophy...and a good one at that...

...give your prey enough rope and sooner or later he'll hang his self...

...then, go get yer damm rope back...you'll need it for something else later...




BTW: something else interesting...

Neel Kashkari Testimony 11-03-2009
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Doesn't sound good to me...


[edit on 3/12/2009 by Hx3_1963]

reply to post by Hastobemoretolife


I almost wish they would declare war. At least we will then be able to fight it.
We'll probably be looking like this:
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/c5070b9e8d7b.jpg[/atsimg]

When we should be doing this:
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/1acf84b92ce3.jpg[/atsimg]

More news: South Korea Unexpectedly Keeps Rate at Record-Low 2% (Update3)

Edit: I need more funny photos.

[edit on 12-3-2009 by Tentickles]

reply to post by Hx3_1963


Albeit an evil philosophy, but very, very, effective. I don't really see a way out of this.

The only solution that I can think of is hope we have all that super advanced leaked Alien technology. Then drop a bomb by advancing technology by about 25 years in one go. I don't see that happening though.

I don't know. Once you understand what is going on its like the Markets is like watching a bunch of rich people and people with a little extra cash to invest move a bunch of money around with absolutely no idea where to invest.

Interesting times.



About that testimony. They are going to "try" to take IRA's, 401k's, pretty much any money that is invested and use it to bailout their banker buddy's.

I have this strange feeling that won't go over so well. Could this be the decision that Biden was talking about?

[edit on 12-3-2009 by Hastobemoretolife]

reply to post by Tentickles


Agreed.

Those are funny pictures though.

That battleship of ours should have sent some .50 cal bullets across the bow when the Chinese were messing with it.

I say lets get it on. Right now I think we could take them. Think they would finance a war against themselves?

Here's the every man's investment plan of today.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/f2e38296d1be.jpg[/atsimg]

Sad that it's the truth for most people.

S&P 500 -3.40 717.10 3/12 3:50am
Fair Value 718.36 3/11 9:57pm
Difference* -1.26

NASDAQ -4.75 1120.25 3/12 3:35am
Fair Value 1127.54 3/11 9:57pm
Difference* -7.29

Dow Jones -49.00 6865.00 3/12 2:44am
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AEX General 207.99 4:02AM ET -2.34 (-1.11%)
MIBTel 11,098.00 4:07AM ET -77.00 (-0.69%)
Stockholm General 200.94 4:07AM ET -1.69 (-0.84%)
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Gold $912.62

reply to post by Hastobemoretolife
BTW: Happy 100th Page!!!
@ 7:20 am est Bernies in the court!!!
Feb Retail Sales: -.1%
Jobs Report: -654K 9k new added
Great 654K jobs lost...should be a good day!!!
GE cut to AA+ !!! ...and it's going up! go figure...
Pre-Market After Hours $8.76 Change: +0.26 +3.06%
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In a way...I don't think they want a war...
It would mess all their future conquests...Imagine...
Dead people to bury
Blown up/burnt citys
Wasted resources
...hard to claim victory when your spoils of war are ashes...


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S&P 500 -2.10 718.40 3/12 9:13am
Fair Value 718.36 3/11 9:57pm
Difference* +0.04

NASDAQ -2.00 1123.00 3/12 9:11am
Fair Value 1127.54 3/11 9:57pm
Difference* -4.54

Dow Jones -19.00 6895.00 3/12 9:12am
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FTSE 100 3,668.31 9:06AM ET -25.50 (-0.69%)
CAC 40 2,635.47 9:07AM ET -38.73 (-1.45%)
DAX 3,864.51 9:07AM ET -49.59 (-1.27%)

Russia
MICEX INDEX 716.63 -22.32 -3.02% 08:22

Qatar
DSM 20 Index 4,438.72 -202.40 -4.36% 05:29
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Europe shares down at midday; banks, commods weigh
www.reuters.com...

US stock futures point to drop; retail sales eyed
www.reuters.com...
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Gold $912.00
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Dailys:

US - Business Inventories (Jan, 2009) 10:00 AM Jan, 2009
Inventories - M/M change -1.00%

US - EIA Natural Gas Report (wk3/6, 2009) 10:30 AM wk3/6, 2009

US - 3-Month Bill Announcement () 11:00 AM

US - 6-Month Bill Announcement () 11:00 AM

US - 30-Yr Bond Auction () 1:00 PM

US - Money Supply (wk3/2, 2009) 4:30 PM wk3/2, 2009

US - Equity Settlements (3-18-09) 8:00 PM 3-18-09
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Cramer: It Ain’t Over Yet
www.cnbc.com...


Be Very Afraid, UK Watchdog Tells Bankers
www.cnbc.com...

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...and here we go at open...

[edit on 3/12/2009 by Hx3_1963]

Hovering around +/- 1%
Amazing...no interaction in ~6 Hrs...
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Dow Jones Industrial Average 6,994.27 10:21am ET 63.87 (0.92%)
S&P 500 INDEX,RTH 727.73 10:20am ET 6.37 (0.88%)
NASDAQ Composite 1,379.26 10:22am ET 7.62 (0.56%)

Dow Jones Transportation Averag 2,314.32 10:10am ET -32.48 (-1.38%)
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Gold $924.90
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GE $9.23
C $1.52
GM $1.88
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Great Tiny Tim talking again...no wonder he can't get nuttin' done...


[edit on 3/12/2009 by Hx3_1963]

reply to post by Tentickles


HAHAHA!
Might be about the most viable plan avaible out there right now.

Finding bills left in old purse-pockets works well for females also.

"Tiny Tim"...wouldn't be able to get through the morning without y'all anymore!

The comic relief keeps me from crying.



[edit on 12-3-2009 by irishchic]

reply to post by Hx3_1963


Yes but who's money, the tax payer money in the form of bail out over 25 billion dollars of TARP that they took since November, is that the money they are rushing out of the back door?

Darn crocks and they dare to call it Profits?

Where are the regulators on this one.

reply to post by marg6043
Good question...
See no evil...

No money...
No personel...
To busy...
Out to lunch...
Bought off...
On Vacation...

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Gold $926.78
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Dow Jones Industrial Average 6,989.42 10:28am ET 59.02 (0.85%)
S&P 500 INDEX,RTH 728.61 10:28am ET 7.25 (1.01%)

[edit on 3/12/2009 by Hx3_1963]

reply to post by marg6043


I think you have it figured out...

"Regulators?" They're just on the bench waiting for the word that they can play now as I'm seeing it.

Can't find bloody link but there was something yesterday about the SEC "needing more money" to keep operating.

Guess they'll get a bailout as well.

Originally posted by Hastobemoretolife
The only solution that I can think of is hope we have all that super advanced leaked Alien technology. Then drop a bomb by advancing technology by about 25 years in one go. I don't see that happening though.

This would be easy to do, and I doubt that it would even have to be alien technology, per se. For decades we've been spending tens of billions per year on black budget technology (this has, of course, prevented actual technological breakthroughs in our economy ). Anybody applies for a patent that looks useful or infringes on what the military already has? Classified, and the inventor is not allowed to talk about it. Sshhhh! It's a secret!

So, the economy dies and you're in rebuilding mode. What's more, you're trying to rebuild before everybody else. You have several decades of technological breakthroughs, and these other nations can't compete with you on that front. So what do you do? Start a war with a nuclear power (hello, North Korea!) and unleash this technology into the open, then let the private sector get it's hands on it. Biggest advancement in industry since the transistor was allowed into the market.

America wins. The military goes back to hoarding advanced technology, and unleashes it again in about 50 years when SHTF, again.

[edit on 12-3-2009 by theWCH]