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Originally posted by buddhasystem
Originally posted by FlyersFan
McCain is to blame because an average guy asked Obama a question
It has been noted that an average plumber does not make $250k a year.
So the "average" argument is a non-starter.
Average plumber income is $47k.
Originally posted by esdad71
the fact is what if this guy wants to OWN a company and employ 7 plumbers. He does not need to be certified as a plumber, just a sub contractor at that point.
Originally posted by Massgirl
Look... "Joe the plumber" isn't even a license to be a plumber, he makes approx. $40k a year, He was never going to buy his bosses business. He like the politicians, misrepresented himself. If we give the politicians a hard time about doing those things why not Joe. I was held accountable when I misrepresent. My mother called that lying and I got a smackdown for it!. Besides John McCain brought Joe up. McCain put Joe in the spotlight. Anyone put in the spotlight is susceptible to ridicule from either side. Joe's a big dude and seemed to love the satellite trucks on his lawn. he said he was glad to help the election.
If he says his beliefs on national TV, we as TV viewers can have our opinions about Joe. He's not defenseless. Please don't treat him as such. He's a man not a boy!
Originally posted by jfj123
Originally posted by esdad71
the fact is what if this guy wants to OWN a company and employ 7 plumbers. He does not need to be certified as a plumber, just a sub contractor at that point.
If he wants to perform plumbing, me must be licensed plumber. True if he just wants to general contract, he can sub licensed plumbers out on EVERY job. HOWEVER, he must then be a licensed builder and he is not a licensed builder either so once again, he would be breaking the law.
Why is it that these people want to focus so much effort on chastising and smearing some poor dumb guy like this Joe character, who has no impact on this election or any real topic of importance whatsoever.
Originally posted by Massgirl
I didn't say he can't get one. I didn't even bring up his smarts. I said he doesn't have one. He can't even buy the business. He doesn't have enough liquidity to buy his bosses business!
He's loving this stuff. He's the one who put himself out there. Others are saying he's being attacked when facts are being presented. No matter who benefits from a fact... a fact is just a fact not an attack.
Originally posted by MOFreemason
reply to post by RKWWWW
He was contacted by the State of Ohio indicating he must have his own license.
His employer may have to fire him immediately, despite he is "studying" for the test.
I feel bad for the guy, if McCain only didn't make reference to him 25 times and try to back his entire campaign on Joe the Plumber, the poor guy wouldn't be in this position.
Originally posted by MOFreemason
reply to post by RKWWWW
He was contacted by the State of Ohio indicating he must have his own license.
His employer may have to fire him immediately, despite he is "studying" for the test.
I feel bad for the guy, if McCain only didn't make reference to him 25 times and try to back his entire campaign on Joe the Plumber, the poor guy wouldn't be in this position.