watching from afar but......in the youtube vid, when obama makes the statement "he's working for a plumber?" i read it as referring to mccain, especially in view of the banner at the bottom of the screen!

why it that an issue and how is that mocking to this guy joe?

the other thing that strikes me is that...um...the average american doesn't make $250,000!! why is giving a tax break to the average american bad socialism but giving a tax break to the americans on the wealthy end of the pay scale isn't? what's the difference?

this thread doesn't add up to me, what am i missing. i thought an effort to make the average americans standard of living better by taxing him less would be a welcome thing!!!

[edit on 17/10/08 by pieman]

With Obama's plan, the $47k plumbers will save MORE money to help them advance to proprietorship, which is good.

Those 47k$/year plumbers are not people who are creating new jobs and do nothing for the overall economy. We need to create jobs. Why tax those who are the only ones creating them?

[edit on 17-10-2008 by tide88]

Originally posted by buddhasystem
With Obama's plan, the $47k plumbers will save MORE money to help them advance to proprietorship, which is good.

Maybe so, but when those same plumbers finally do advance in the proprietorship and reach that certain income level, they will be punished for their success!

Don't you see the stupidity in that?

According to Obama the American Dream has a limit on it of $250,000 a year!

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
huffington post disclosed his address, it is dangerous

Typical irresponsible Huffington Post. Between Huffington Post and Daily Kos I'm starting to think this country isn't safe anymore. The average person certainly isn't. Just ask plumber Joe.

Originally posted by Bad Dog

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
huffington post disclosed his address, it is dangerous

Typical irresponsible Huffington Post. Between Huffington Post and Daily Kos I'm starting to think this country isn't safe anymore. The average person certainly isn't. Just ask plumber Joe.

I think you are right, why would they do such a thing, taking into consideration how volatile this situation could become.

Originally posted by pieman
how? surely if you earn 250k you won't drop an employee because you don't get a tax break. this sounds like a whole lot of scare mongering.

It's not that you won't get a tax break. It's that you'll get a tax increase.

Obama will raise practically every tax on businesses.

People will cut jobs.

Originally posted by nyk537
According to Obama the American Dream has a limit on it of $250,000 a year!

That's about as inane statement as it can get. Obama is not going to take away the amount above some magic $250k cap -- you probably saw the projected tax schedules and I hope looked at the numbers. There is no limit on American dream. There is, unfortunately, a limit on the amount of information certain persons can absorb.

Originally posted by buddhasystem
That's about as inane statement as it can get. Obama is not going to take away the amount above some magic $250k cap

Not directly, but once you hit that level he has described your taxes shoot way up. Then he'll take your hard earned money and "spread it around" to those who haven't earned it.

So why strive to earn that much money if it's going to be taken away through taxes for the purpose of income redistribution?

Strange thing, none of the videos on you tube showing this will play today.

Don't know if anyone else has mentioned this, but I am thinking about digging out my tinfoil over it

ETA: nevermind, a quick restart of browser fixed the problem

[edit on 10/17/08 by redhatty]