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Originally posted by mind is the universe
We outside the world, have had enough of incompetent American leaders f***** up over the last 50 years and especially the last 8. The American people are sick of having disrespectful, mindless, apethetic leaders running their nation.
Originally posted by TruthParadox
How has the last 8 years of Bush's leadership affected you directly?
Find what hard to believe, and what hype.
I just find it hard to believe and it seems you're just going with the hype.
That is exactly the problem, you haven't noticed and you haven't changed. It's called ignorance.
I live in America, and according to the politicians, the last 8 years have been Hell in America.
I haven't noticed.
My life style has not changed one bit.
I didn't say Bush, I said elites.
And secondly, you say 'running their nation'.
I take it you don't know much about a President's power.
He hardly runs anything.
Those buildings should be floored. Those building represent people in power that take your power. They do not represent people.
That's why we have the Senate and House of Representatives.
I agree, I also think its absurd, you only see this fact, and dissmiss the chaos of the last 8 years. As you've stated above, that the last 8 years has not affected you. So you've contradicted yourself and......... you don't make sense, if you say this is absurd, when you haven't been affected by the last 8 years.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a Republican or a Democrat, I'm just watching everyone else blame the leaders for EVERY SINGLE THING and I think it's absurd.
Originally posted by justamomma
Now, people are turning on each other. IF people could step back and get a grip, they would see that all in all, things are not that bad. We have our lives, we have our family and friends, and we have some pretty damn good solutions that we don't HAVE to wait around to implement them into our lives. Stop blaming each other and encourage a little more. This can change, but it WILL REQUIRE a different way of thinking. It is about time we stop thinking we can't and start knowing we will.
[edit on 17-10-2008 by justamomma]
Have you listened to her speak?
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by verylowfrequency
An IQ of 83 -just as I expected. Barely above retarded.
83? BS Alert! That's what Forrest Gumps IQ was in the movie.
Think about what you just said there. 83 - barely above retarded.
She definately is NOT barely above retarded.
Just listening to her and watching her, not to mention that she
can hold down the job of Govenor AND take care of 5 children
tells us that an IQ of 83 is impossible.
If you 'expected' she had an IQ of 83 - then that's just biased partisanship on your part.
It is impossible for Govenor Palin to have a low IQ of 83.
MAJOR BS ALERT.
Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by Merriman Weir
ah ok, so because she is white that makes her better for the job than obama.. ?! thats your explanation ! lol cmon man... and for that funny name thing... i think the only people STILL not knowing that USAMA and OBAMA are totally different (huh see the spelling!) are people with 83 IQ. You people are gonna need more than: "well his name sounds like the alleged terrorist" who by the way is just a stupid afghan actor!! Which is now dead! To convince us that barrack obama is apparently a terrorist working with pakistani gov. pffffff no need for that, your hole is already digged... thanks to john mccain!
Originally posted by 44soulslayer
reply to post by rcwj75
I totally disagree.
The USA was founded by the most intelligent men of that era. They were polymaths, freemasons and of unusually high intelligence. The common man revolted against the British in protest against taxation without representation. The founding fathers revolted in order to found a country in liberty and natural rights.
The USA is defended by the common man, yes. But you'll notice that the generals and commanders are always the most intelligent and capable. I dont want to insult the infantry by calling them stupid, but they would hardly be the capable force they are without effective leadership.
The USA's prosperity is additionally derived from the industrialists and visionary men of the 20th century such as Ford, Rockefeller, et al. Of course the American workforce is to be credited, but again without leaders and visionaries of unusal ability, there wouldnt have been as much progress.
So while a leader of "average joe" intelligence may be seen as an advantage in empathetic terms, in reality leaders are the most effective when they have unusual ability. Indeed to rise to a leadership position usually requires a heck of a lot of intelligence and ability.
Originally posted by heliosprime
If she has an IQ of 83 then Biden has a 23..............