Originally posted by Harman
reply to post by Merriman Weir
Well, to be honest i do see the logic in his message. WE have to do it ourselves and stop whining that we are getting screwed over, we have to snap
out of it and get moving or suffer the consequenses. If any aliens pop by and saves our butts by whatever means they automatically take on the
responsibility to care for us. And we are even worst to handle than a class of unruly juvenile adolescents on steroids and with weapons.
We love negativity, we can't get enough of it even if we say we don't (look at this topic, it irritates people but they still go looking for it). We
are a pretty sore bunch, easily led, easily decieved and demanding to be protected from the evil outside world (the last point not so much on sites as
ATS but the other points still stand). What will it take before we had enough? A couple more financial craches? Widespread dead and destruction in the
so called civilized western world? A totally destroyed ecology? What?
No, we need to snap out of it, we need to do it ourselves and we need to quick about it. Aliens or a overactive imagination does not matter in this
one, the message has logic in it, even if people do not want to see it that way. I do not speak to aliens and i share his message and yes, this is the
gray area, it is made after complaints that there where to many unsubstantiated stories like this but now the complaints just move with the place made
for these topics. Do any of you see anything strange with that?
[edit on 17-10-2008 by Harman]
My question about logic is things like "We will give you to knowledge of the old world as we have done on many occasions in the past and you can use
this to hasten your people development and reach its goals." So they will only give us some arcane knowledge to develop our race and reach our goals
we have developed our race and reached our goals?
When we've actually reached that point when we don't actually need their intervention and we've sorted ourselves out, that's
intervene and interact with us?
How about the fact that they're aware that only a minority make "policies" that affect us all and they're still judging us as an overall race?
I'm seeing a lot of generalisation in this supposedly wisdom-laded message: a lot of "you" and "your" as opposed to "they" and "them".
They're berating us for the war and violence we have but surely they must know our hands are tied and it's going to take more war and more conflict
to overcome them. Does Orzeml think we can vote
the New World Order out or something? Just tell the Internation Banking conspiracy members to
say 'yeah, we've had enough now. Let's call it evens'? So they have the answers but won't share them until we've figured it out ourselves? You
know what? If that was a human using that kind of logic on you, you'd be checking to make sure your wallet and watch were still there.
I'm not sure I want to interact with a 'superior' race that, despite being alarmed at the path we're taking, doesn't actually want to intervene
even if it means millions of more unnecessary deaths and how many more years of misery. And these are meant to be the aliens that actually care about
us? What the hell are the others going to be like?
By the way, when I talk about the alien this guy claims he had a conversation with, I'm actually talking from a hypothetical standpoint because I
don't actually believe this guy is in touch with aliens. If only because he's not actually giving me any reason to do so other than saying ''so,
hooked-up with my man from The Pleiades last night and we got to talkin'...' That really carries as much weight as my claiming I came to earth in a