Orzeml(The Pleiadean) message to our kind , page 1
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Topic started on 17-10-2008 @ 04:36 AM by smokingman2006
Last night I had the pleasure of spending most the night in the company of Orzeml And Amizarac I asked a lot of questions and received many interesting replies.

One of the questions I ask was how are we humans perceived by his race?

His answers was that in the last 20 years we have become a race obsess with idolizing pretenders and shallow people.

I asked him to clarify his meaning of pretenders and Orzeml explained that our worship of what we call movie stars is unhealthy and very negative to our goal.

He then asks me what I would think of a race that puts money and greed over everything else.

He explains that watching from the outside if much different than living from within.

Look at your planet from our point of view more than two thirds live in misery created by a small group of profit takers who are happy to trade four billion lives so they can live like kings.

Most You human are still willing to go to war with your neighbors over the most minor matters.

You all try to preach love and understanding yet are totally indifferent to the suffering of your own race.

Just recently your governments have found thousands of billions of dollars to try and rescue your meaningless lifestyle yet very little is done and spent helping your fellow human who are dieing of hunger and sickness every day.

At any time throughout your short history one war or another has raged on your planet pitting your own race against yourselves in order for few to gain financial gain.

You now worship, movies stars football stars , and rock stars as god and your children want to grow up to be like then.
Your newspapers and magazine are full of stories about excessive shallow people who waste fortunes while the little children die in there millions from hunger and sickness.

Your race was given a pure clean and virgin planet with everything it needed for your kind to shelter and feed itself.
Yet in a very short time you have nearly destroyed this and yourselves. Is it any wonder we are very fearful of letting you humans join the other races in our universe, let alone make full contact with you?

So from us watching from the outside you as a race paint us a very scary picture.

As much as we have tried to help the human over the centuries we cant seem to change this materialistic attitude that has brainwashed your race. Some on our planet think that the human have gone down the path of insanity to far to be brought back onto the path of humanity but we feel there is still strong hope.

We will give you to knowledge of the old world as we have done on many occasions in the past and you can use this to hasten your people development and reach its goals.

There are still hundreds of million of good people on your planet but very few of these make policies
that benefit the masses.
And there are only a very few bad people on this planet but most of these make all the laws and policies that effect you all.

The rest of your planets population is what we call lost and with no sense of direction and will follow what ever they think is the norm and these are the one you must show the path to.

Your planet was once balance and every tribe had what it needed to live and prosper but greed and ego has ravaged and pillaged from most of those tribes and now you have a very imbalanced world where there are tribes living on nothing because all was taken from them.

It is up to all humanity to restore this balance and insure that all men and women are fed and sheltered equally on this planet only then will the human race be on course for a meeting with other races.

This planet was never created to be the playground of a few and the misery of billions and rulers never had the right to enslave the people only lead them into a better existence.

You rules for any living being is to live and let all others live along side them, nothing more is of greater importances.

Till then human can never expect to have mass contact with other life forms from the stars.



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reply posted on 17-10-2008 @ 05:24 AM by Merriman Weir
War is pretty messed-up and people are greedy: I didn't really need to be told that by an alien, but the next you see him, pass on my thanks for his concern anyway.

How about some real help? Instead of wisdom that's already shared by many on this planet but are impotent to actually do anything about, how about passing you some schematics as to how to create efficient alternative energy systems? Maybe some system to actually work with the dynamics of nature and the planet rather than against it? You know, something that will actually upset this weird unequal balance we have for good? Oh, whilst he's at it, perhaps if he's that concerned about us killing each other, when he does eventually hand over these schematics, give us all a little help to make sure the engineer that builds these machine doesn't go 'mysteriously missing' like everyone else.

We don't need another Yoda right now, someone throwing fortune cookie platitudes, no matter how nice it is to hear that some of us are reading from the same hymn sheet. If they were really so wise and so observant, they'd understand that for the bulk of this planet, our hands are tied. Apparently, we're not meant to war with our neighbours but a bloody revolution is probably the only way things will actually change. If your alien friend knows of a better way, that's the first thing you should have been asking him. Because, whilst we're waiting for the advice he gives to come to fruition, people are going to starve to death, go without water, be sold into slavery, be killed by despotic regimes, be drafted into wars, be robbed by their own governments and so on. For a concerned and compassionate alien, he really doesn't seem to care too much about those particular folk.

What the # is your alien friend actually waiting for? For us to prove to him that we're 'worthy' of his help? If he didn't think we were worthy of his help in the first place, what's he doing hanging around with you in the first place.


reply posted on 17-10-2008 @ 07:13 AM by Harman
reply to post by Merriman Weir



Well, to be honest i do see the logic in his message. WE have to do it ourselves and stop whining that we are getting screwed over, we have to snap out of it and get moving or suffer the consequenses. If any aliens pop by and saves our butts by whatever means they automatically take on the responsibility to care for us. And we are even worst to handle than a class of unruly juvenile adolescents on steroids and with weapons.

We love negativity, we can't get enough of it even if we say we don't (look at this topic, it irritates people but they still go looking for it). We are a pretty sore bunch, easily led, easily decieved and demanding to be protected from the evil outside world (the last point not so much on sites as ATS but the other points still stand). What will it take before we had enough? A couple more financial craches? Widespread dead and destruction in the so called civilized western world? A totally destroyed ecology? What?

No, we need to snap out of it, we need to do it ourselves and we need to quick about it. Aliens or a overactive imagination does not matter in this one, the message has logic in it, even if people do not want to see it that way. I do not speak to aliens and i share his message and yes, this is the gray area, it is made after complaints that there where to many unsubstantiated stories like this but now the complaints just move with the place made for these topics. Do any of you see anything strange with that?

[edit on 17-10-2008 by Harman]


reply posted on 17-10-2008 @ 07:26 AM by smokingman2006
reply to post by Merriman Weir


YOU ASKED........

How about some real help? Instead of wisdom that's already shared by many on this planet but are impotent to actually do anything about, how about passing you some schematics as to how to create efficient alternative energy systems? Maybe some system to actually work with the dynamics of nature and the planet rather than against it? You know, something that will actually upset this weird unequal balance we have for good? Oh, whilst he's at it, perhaps if he's that concerned about us killing each other, when he does eventually hand over these schematics, give us all a little help to make sure the engineer that builds these machine doesn't go 'mysteriously missing' like everyone else.

A formula was sighted last night which could solve a lot of our energy problems it will take me afew month to set things up to see how this works but many other things also changed hands but again work is needed.
The bright side is I have plenty of free time right now to work on it all.


[edit on 17-10-2008 by smokingman2006]


reply posted on 17-10-2008 @ 08:07 AM by Merriman Weir
Originally posted by Harman
reply to
post by Merriman Weir



Well, to be honest i do see the logic in his message. WE have to do it ourselves and stop whining that we are getting screwed over, we have to snap out of it and get moving or suffer the consequenses. If any aliens pop by and saves our butts by whatever means they automatically take on the responsibility to care for us. And we are even worst to handle than a class of unruly juvenile adolescents on steroids and with weapons.

We love negativity, we can't get enough of it even if we say we don't (look at this topic, it irritates people but they still go looking for it). We are a pretty sore bunch, easily led, easily decieved and demanding to be protected from the evil outside world (the last point not so much on sites as ATS but the other points still stand). What will it take before we had enough? A couple more financial craches? Widespread dead and destruction in the so called civilized western world? A totally destroyed ecology? What?

No, we need to snap out of it, we need to do it ourselves and we need to quick about it. Aliens or a overactive imagination does not matter in this one, the message has logic in it, even if people do not want to see it that way. I do not speak to aliens and i share his message and yes, this is the gray area, it is made after complaints that there where to many unsubstantiated stories like this but now the complaints just move with the place made for these topics. Do any of you see anything strange with that?

[edit on 17-10-2008 by Harman]


My question about logic is things like "We will give you to knowledge of the old world as we have done on many occasions in the past and you can use this to hasten your people development and reach its goals." So they will only give us some arcane knowledge to develop our race and reach our goals only when we have developed our race and reached our goals?

When we've actually reached that point when we don't actually need their intervention and we've sorted ourselves out, that's when they'll intervene and interact with us?

How about the fact that they're aware that only a minority make "policies" that affect us all and they're still judging us as an overall race? I'm seeing a lot of generalisation in this supposedly wisdom-laded message: a lot of "you" and "your" as opposed to "they" and "them".

They're berating us for the war and violence we have but surely they must know our hands are tied and it's going to take more war and more conflict to overcome them. Does Orzeml think we can vote the New World Order out or something? Just tell the Internation Banking conspiracy members to say 'yeah, we've had enough now. Let's call it evens'? So they have the answers but won't share them until we've figured it out ourselves? You know what? If that was a human using that kind of logic on you, you'd be checking to make sure your wallet and watch were still there.

I'm not sure I want to interact with a 'superior' race that, despite being alarmed at the path we're taking, doesn't actually want to intervene even if it means millions of more unnecessary deaths and how many more years of misery. And these are meant to be the aliens that actually care about us? What the hell are the others going to be like?

By the way, when I talk about the alien this guy claims he had a conversation with, I'm actually talking from a hypothetical standpoint because I don't actually believe this guy is in touch with aliens. If only because he's not actually giving me any reason to do so other than saying ''so, hooked-up with my man from The Pleiades last night and we got to talkin'...' That really carries as much weight as my claiming I came to earth in a Moses basket.
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