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God, Nature, Past Universal History, The Great Flood etc

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posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 10:32 PM
Ultimate Thread Ever. Bar None.

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Chinese character for Qi- vapors rising

Vapor and rice together

Here is a post about chinese medicine and martial arts I found on another board quoted

" No-one who understood what is implied by Qi would say they don't believe in it. Saying you don't believe in Qi is like saying you don't believe in 'relationship' or "influence".

Qi is an old idea. The model I will try to explain is at least 2300 years old as it is clearly laid out in the Huangdi Neijing, the seminal work of chinese medicine. While essentially a medical text it also lays out a metaphysical model that is basic to chinese philosophy. The oldest character for Qi represented vapours rising. In time the radical for grain was placed below to show the steam that rises from cooking millet. What happens when you smell food cooking? Your body responds; stomach gurgles, mouth waters, etc. So something about cooking food exerted influence on you. Qi.

What is the nature of this influence? It requires that we introduce two other philosophical concepts that have been subject to ideational mutilation, Yin and Yang. We often see the simplistic folk models of Yin and Yang that are lists of things associated with the two concepts. ( Yin is feminine, cool, dark, receptive/ Yang is masculine, warm, light, creative). These lists are not strictly wrong, yet they obscure the reason the lists were made in the first place.

' Between heaven and earth are qi and it's laws' ; between Yin and Yang are Qi and it's laws'. This classic statement points to the most important aspect of Qi, it's context. So qi is the interplay of Yin and Yang. This brings us back to the nature of Yin and Yang.

Yin is the tendency of things in the universe to coalesce and slow down. Yin is the tendency to crystalization and struction. Yin is the tendacy of matter to fall down and shadows to form in opposition to light.

Yang is the tendency for things to change and become other things. The tendency to dissolve and tendency to grow. The tendency for clouds to boil and skin to tan.

All objects of sense experience are an interplay of Yin and Yang. This includes individual things as well as systems. This is why the concept of Taiji is the great terminus or the grand ultimate, because it includes all things in the universe. Yin and Yang are linked and one cannot be discussed without invoking the other. Structure cannot be divorced from function.

They stand in mutual opposition.
They are rooted in each other.
They define each others limit.
They transform into one another.

When we discuss the balance of Yin and Yang at any given moment or in any given state we are talking about Qi. It is important to understand that Yin and Yang are not absolute states of being, rather they are part of a moving frame that can applied in a variety of ways to any situation. There are many situations where the place of Yin and Yang is considered to be understood and relatively predictable so they are left out of the discussion. One of these places is in the context of the relationship between body and mind.

When we look at the basic idea of body and mind in Chinese philosophy we are talking about Jing(essense), and Shen( spirit, or summation of mental-emotional aspects of the individual). The relative interaction of Jing and Shen is the normal context for the discussion of Qi in martial arts. When someone says 'lead qi to your fingertips" the implication is to focus the mind on the fingertips to perceive the interaction between Jing and Shen at that point, hence qi. However, you could also say, ' absorb the opponents force to use their strength against them.' In this case Yin is found in the reception and relaxed connection of the defender ( song) , and the Yang is found in the aggresor's force( Li). The resulting Qi is how the interaction plays out. If the defender is subtle and skilled the qi will be the qi of a throw perhaps. If the aggressor is more subtle or skilled the result may be the qi of a successful hit.. If the aggressor is very subtle they may be able to become more Yin that the defender and so invert the frame of Yin and Yang."

Martial arts videos. In the past it was necessary to combine Ki and spiritual training with martial arts, and even healing and medicine.

Connection to the earth. Center of gravity. For sweeping the sweep digs a trench into the earth. The hips are like pendulums, connected to the ground

Some other videos showing a little bit of internal energy

Anyways, that's one post I found interesting. So it sounds like one of the first classifications of Yin and Yang, supposedly had to do with sunlight vs. a shadow, or light vs, dark. This is because through history, teachers would teach mankind through oracles such as the I ching to teach about oneness. Such as how everything is vibration , and octaves. Galaxies, stars, planets, moons, humans, light, matter, vapour, sound. The emperors had no problem with this as long as they could become immortal, lead be turned to gold, or if their futures could be predicted.

Wuji- the formless, shapeless, nebulous, great void, before creation

Taiji- the beginning of creation, experience, companionship, and duality, Yang and Yin turning around and eternally alternating giving birth to thousands of things within certain planes in the universe.

Yang, one extreme pole-Yin, the other extreme pole-

[edit on 16-10-2008 by Hollywood11]

posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 10:33 PM
8 trigrams, Pre-Heaven arrangememt

Mountain, Water, Thunder, Heaven, Earth, Wind, Fire, Lake.

And- N, NE, E, SE, S, SW, W, NW

Post-Heaven Arrangement(trinity)-

Father, 1st Son, 2nd Son, 3rd Son, Mother, 1st Daughter, 2nd Daughter, 3rd Daughter

Wu Ji, Tai Ji, Yin Yang, 8 trigrams, and Color

Light travels at 296,000 meters per second or 186,000 miles per second and doesn't need a medium to travel in. All colors of light travel at the same speed, but they have different wave frequencies (short and long waves).

Light can be reflected or refracted. In reflection, light bounces off a surface and is diffused. Light travels in a straight line and refraction is the bending of this light. The light breaks up into different frequencies therefore causing a rainbow or a "broken" look.

Light falling on an object may be absorbed, or reflected. What happens to it depends on the color of the object: a red object reflects red light and absorbs much of the rest of the other colors that we see. The color of an object is that color which is reflected rather than absorbed.

Refraction is the change in direction of a wave due to a change in its velocity. This is most commonly seen when a wave passes from one medium to another. Refraction of light is the most commonly seen example, but any type of wave can refract when it interacts with a medium, for example when sound waves pass from one medium into another.

In optics, refraction occurs when light waves travel from a medium with a given refractive index to a medium with another. At the boundary between the media, the wave's phase velocity is altered, it changes direction, and its wavelength increases or decreases but its frequency remains constant. For example, a light ray will refract as it enters and leaves glass;

Light Pigment relationship. To experiment with light complementary is rather simple, look at an intense red for one minute and then turn your eyes to look at a white surface, there you will see appearing the same shape of the red object in a slightly fluorescent cyan. Or project a spectrum from a prism on to a white wall, if we put in front of the projected rainbow colors a red filter the portion of blue cyan of the spectrum will disappear or putting a cyan filter the red portion of the spectrum will disappear. Instead if we put a magenta filter the portion of green will disappear, so it is relatively simple to know that cyan and red are complementary, as well as green to magenta in the radiant light principle. It is not as easy to find out this complementary color in the pigment absorption quality of color. Whenever we mix three color pigments together we reach black, meanwhile whenever we mix three coloured lights we reach white coherent light. If we mix green light with red light we get yellow going to white, meanwhile if we mix a red pigment with green pigment we get brown, going to black

8 Trigrams-








8 primary colors








8 notes of the musical scale

8 phases of the moon-

8 bits of the binary code

I Ching, Pre-Heaven arrangement

Post Heaven arrangememt

The modern DNA diagrams of today correspond to the anciet pre-natal and pre-heaven I Ching construct. Pre-natal energy is the energy inherited from your parents, whereas the the energy of air, water, food etc. is classified as post-natal energy. 5000 years ago the ancients wrote that the pre-natal energy at the microcosmic level inside the body, was constructed in the formation we now know to be DNA. They wrote that what it actually looked like from that level was that inside the human body at the microcosmic level, was like the universe outside the earth and that the human body was a small universe.

I think the Taoist cultivation is quite concerned with pre natal qi. The modern DNA table is basically the I Ching-

posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 10:34 PM
And matter also exists and functions in accordance to I Ching principles

* Matter is effected by forces or interactions (the terms are interchangeable)
* there are four fundamental forces in the Universe:
o gravitation (between particles with mass)
o electromagnetic (between particles with charge/magnetism)
o strong nuclear force (between quarks)
o weak nuclear force (that changes quark types)

Wave/particle duality

Ancient Taoist Diagram demonstrates how there is an entire universe within the human body, and the human body is a micorcosm of the larger universe. The human body is in essence, it's own universe.

5 phases-

Everything in nature functions according to the 5 phases. In the human body, the kidneys nourish the liver in the same way as Water nourishes Wood in nature. Water can support and generate wood by supporting the growth of trees. It is a simple fact of nature that nothing in the universe can exist independantly of the whole balance of nature.

In the human body Metal corresponds to lungs and sadness. Water to Kidneys and fear. Wood to the liver and to anger. Fire to the heart and Joy. Earth to the spleen and to worry.

A human Body is also a 5 pointed star itself in physical form

Generative cycle

Inhibitory cycle

posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 10:35 PM
IMO and as I understand-

The great principle, is that which creates, constitutes, governs, sustains, and contains all within all.

There are laws of the absolute, and laws of the relative.

3 Absolute laws or the One Great Law apearing as a threefold ray. The same law governs everything from biggest to smallest, beginning and end. Life, mind, truth, love, is all, four points of the base of a pyrymid in a specific order with spirit at the tip as one. All is vibration.

The laws of the relative are law of polarity, law of rythm, law of cause and effect, law of gender.

There is also the law of evolution, like 10 steps forwrd 9.9 steps back, SORT OF, and law of love.

There is a so called principle of inter- generation, inter-inhibition. And creation, stasis, degeneration, destruction.

Ultimately ki is related to the principle of the oldest name of God. Yod He Vau He. It is known in many cultures, Yawheh, jehova, and Ya Ho Wa Ho are afew. The interplay father, mother, son, and universal holy spirit reborn. All is vibration, and octaves of it.

Info on tetrragrammaton YHVH


Yod He Vau He , explained in full in the Lost Teachings of Atlantis

“The symbolism and structure of Yod-He-Vau-He is simple, yet deeply profound. And when its few simple elements combine, they give birth to the entire complexity of life. In part, YHVH represents that perfect simple pattern we spoke of earlier - the atom or solar system. It also speaks of human procreation, and stellar/planetary procreation. The first part, “Yod”, represents the positive (+), “Sun”, “light”, “the Father” principles. The first “He” represents the “negative”, not in the sense of “bad” or “evil”, but in the sense of (-), negative polarity, pure darkness like that of the void of space, the receptive, the Mother principles. “Vau” is the meeting of Yod and He; the place of interplay, intercourse, and combining of the first two principles. It is its own principle, and the place of conception of, and the birth of, the second “He” (again, pronounced “hay”). The second “He” is the offspring of Yod and He, the result of their interaction, their subsequent creation. The second “He” has the same attributes as its Father, the Yod, in that it actually IS a Yod in its own macro or microcosmic realm. The second “He” is on a vibrational plane an octave apart. The second “He” begins the cycle (Yod-He-Vau-He) again, but AS THE YOD in micro-cosm or macro-cosm, and its polarity is reversed from its “father” YOD. Interestingly, the “father” principle, Yod, was distorted through translation over time from “Yod” into “God”, which is also often given a “father” principle connotation.”

This took me some time and deep contemplation to grasp the entirety of, and the great significance of it. But I eventually did. In fact, it ultimately led to a great deal of scientific research I conducted, applying the name to light, sound, and music. I have included some other profound aspects, and an attempt at giving you examples that may help certain of you understand it better. Understanding vibration and music can make it easier.

The cycle of YHVH creation continues as an Infinite spiral. It can best be understood intuitively, but maybe these illustrations will help a bit.





(Infinite HE

vibrational VAU

spiral) HE/YOD.......octave




YHVH makes a spiral (similar to DNA double helix don’t you think?), each Yod in the same place on a circle of the spiral, but just above, or just below - on its own circle. These are “octaves” of vibration, and can represent a micro or macro-cosm world of existence.

To further help understand the way YHVH works, consider the vibrational realm of sound, and facts relating to music.

A common frequency of the musical note of “A” that is universally used to tune instruments, is 440 cycles per second (also called 440 hertz [hz]). But there are an infinite number of “octaves” of "A", above and below 440hz. For instance, the next octave of “A” above that is exactly double, exactly times 2 - i.e., 880 cycles per second, whereas the octave of “A” below that is 220 cycles per second, exactly half, exactly divided by 2. Note that the next higher note of "A" is exactly double, and the next higher one from that is exactly double, etc., and that vibrational doubling will go on infinitely, even after it goes beyond the realm of sound. Likewise, the next lower note of "A" is exactly half the frequency, etc., etc.,

"A" x 2 = "A" x 2 = "A" x 2 = "A" x 2 = "A" (etc., continuing infinitely)

55hz 110hz 220hz 440hz 880hz (etc., continuing infinitely)

octave octave octave octave octave

The "A" represents YOD; the multiplication by 2, represents the HE, and its intercourse (VAU) with the YOD; the next octave is the second HE, which is the offspring or creation of the YOD and HE's intercourse (VAU).

Below is another way of looking at it. In this example, the YOD and the first HE are of equal value (hz), and the combining or intercourse of the two (VAU) is represented by the equals sign (=). The numbers shown below the YHVH's are the cycles per second of octaves of "A".


110 + 110 = 220 + 220 = 440 + 440 = 880

(again, this continues infinitely up and infinitely down)

Don’t be frustrated if you don’t understand it easily or even for quite a while. I didn’t. Then one day it just hit me and all fell into place.

Yod-He-Vau-He represents many things in One. It is comprised of a numerological sequence that represents all things in the first four numbers. Einstein said we never need to count more than four to understand all things. He understood YHVH. Here are the One, Two, Three. Four. Such as: the Infinite ONE; TWO: the dichotomy, polarities positive and negative, Yin and Yang; THREE: the threefold nature of spiritual, mental, and physical; the Christian Trinity of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit; etc.. FOUR: the rebirth, the offspring, the cross, crucifixion and the transition to a new plane. Thus YHVH is both the formula of the “primary pattern” - and the formula for the procreation of the primary pattern.

posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 10:37 PM

YHVH’s most important representation is: the means of transition and manifestation of creation infinitely throughout ALL. As we have partially shown, this may be seen through studying the Law as it is reflected in music. In one octave of vibration is a Universe! Every octave is a duplicate of another except that it is of a higher or lower frequency. The note “A” is an “A” whether it is played in the highest octave of an instrument range, or the lowest. As the frequency of vibration increases, and goes beyond the range of hearing, it eventually comes within the range of sight. But the same law that dictates the repeating notes of various octaves holds true. Colors are like the notes in the octave of vision. Each color has a “note” - each color is a note, each note is a color. This principle allows you to find any note, in the “octave” of any vibrational frequency band. For instance, you can take the frequency of 440 for the note “A”, and keep doubling it to find the higher octaves. You can keep doubling it past the frequency band of sound, and on into the frequency band of light. You can then match your figures against the known frequencies for colors of light, and precisely determine the color of each note! Who could have imagined you could do such a scientific thing using the oldest name of God?

If one truly understands YHVH, one understands the Law governing all vibration, and all creation.

Cosmic DNA in Space

quotes from chapters 1 and 2 of "Science of Being" by Eugene ferson

"Great question- the greatest of all questions- has been asked by humanity for countless ages, "Is there a God?" From the point of view of religion, it is accepted on faith that there is a God, a Divinity, Who is called the Father of Man and of the Universe. But human beings are not satisfied with believing on faith; they want to know, to have irrefutable proofs of the existence of Divinity. Therefore has it become the task of Science to investigate the matter and find an answer to this question, an answer which will satisfy the searching of the rational mind; and science has solved the problem nobly.Through scientific investigation, it discovered that there is a Universal Force which may be termed- Etenal energy, Primal energy- pevading the universe, filling infinite space. If primal energy fills infinite space for one moment, it must be one with eternal space for eternity, because there is no place where it can lose itself. Therefore the basic energy of the universe is found to be infinite, and at the same time eternal. Through further investigation, it was discovered that infinite energy expesses itself in most admirable laws, sublime laws: that it shows the profoundest intelligence and logic, a self conciossness expressed in the divinest terms, laws invariable, true to themselves, mathematically correct, and above all, harmonious and beutiful.

As a result of all this reasoning, was discovered, through its first universal manifestation as primal energy, that which has always exsisted, the eternal unmanifest called god, conciouss of it's own power, law emitting, law abiding. In other words there is a Unit, a One, existing eternally, expressing itself through its creation, the universe, conciously governing it, sustaining it in a condition of eternal harmony, and loving it, for love and harmony are one. Love Is attraction.Thus science has found divinity under another name. Therefore the word "god" which would have been used in "religion", will be substituted a word having deeper meaning, covering broader ground, the word principle."

" That is the great principle is omnipresent, omniscient, and omnipotent, The great principle has from eternity, out of itself created everything there is. It is it's own center and own circumference. The absolute is present everywhere, whether we are conciouss of it or not. That means that whenever we wish to come in contact with the great principle, we do not need to think of something far distant, unattainable. All we need to do is know the immutable fact that its first manifistation, universal energy, is always about us in full power. Therefore when anyone realises this presence conciously, there it is in its full power. We can agian make the comparisin to the ocean. We cannot say that in any one place in the ocean there is more power than in another. There is power everywhere. Whenever one wishes to contact the ocean, one has simply to dip the hand into the water and one will feel all that the ocean is, and if one puts tha hand in another part of the ocea, one will have the same results. Millions of people can do the same thing, at the same time, and they all will contact the same fullness of the ocean. So it is with the great principle. Whenever we conciously contact the absolute in its manifistation as Universal energy, there it is in all it's omnipotence, because it is all embracing. Therefore it is not correct, as we find in literature, to imagine that there is somewhere in the universe a center of powers and forces from which all forces radiate, acting most strongly on those things which are nearest and more feebly on those farthest away"

" Primal energy, as was explained in the first lesson, is the fundamental force of the universe. It underlies, pervades, and sustains everything, fills all space, endures throughout eternity, and is the source of all power. It is indeed the very life of the universe. As such, it is in perpetual motion, expressing itself through what are called vibrations

In the absolute there is only one kind of vibration, the spiritual. In The present state of human concioussness those spiritual vibrations appear as a three fold ray

1. Life or magnetic vibrations
2.mind vibrations
3.soul vibrations"

" And each kind of vibration is expessing itsef in a different way, which conforms to it's own particular laws"

" Life vibrations are also called magnetic vibrations, because they possess two primary qualites, motion and attraction. In the practical application, those qualities are continually used in oreder to obtain the desired results. Magnetic vibrations are essentailly importan because they not only permeate the whole universe and underlie everything, but because they constitute the very element out of which our bodies and the whole visible universe is made. The great practical value of those Life Vibrations is that we do not need concentration or strong mental effort to contact them. All we need to do is to become concious of their continual flow into us, and thus establish the so called contact. No matter what we do, be it physical, mental, or emotional activity, we should never use our own very limited supply of life enrgy. THis must be the cardinal point to be remebered."

" The question may arise, why is it necessary to make contactwith the universal life energy? Are we not in direct and constant communication with it at all times? Yes, but we are not concious of it. On the contrary, we conciously beleive we are independant of it, that we have a life force of our own. We think we are seperate from all power. Therefore we need to reestblish on the mental plane that which was lost there, though we never lost that contact on the spiritual plane."

" There are different methods of contacting Primal energy. The easiest and the simplest way is through mental contact. In order to do it, we must relax completely as we can, physically, mentally, emotionally. And when we feel harmony within us then we must say to ourslves " I am one with the universal life energy it is flowing through me now, I feel it"

posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 10:39 PM

"In order to overcome that difficulty and enable everybody, even the most skeptical and timid, to make successful that conciouss contact with the universal life energy, there is another method of pure physical contact, based on pure physical laws. That second method has this advantage over the mental one, that it does not require any faith in it. It works for the reason that the physical laws are put into operation, and the physical contact with the universal energy is made, not because we think it or want it, but because we cannot help it."

" Yet if we do not think about it, it still will work, because of the aforesaid reasons. The second, the physical method, is based on a certain exercise called the star exercise"

" The heart situated on the left side of the body, is not only the central pumping station which takes in and sends out blood, but also is the apparatus which sucks in and pours out universal life energy"
That is from the book " Science of being" written by Eugene ferson in 1920s.'s-books.htm

Here is the Star exercise to develop qi flowing inwards as well as outwards together. And to store/charge/refine as well as refine the energy vibration of the energy body. It is in fact the original Ki or Yoga technique

The perfect condition is inflowing and outflowing cultivation at the same time. Some qigong starts by connecting to the universe, through the palms, feet, ba hui, or even fingers in mudra positions( fingers are like antennas). Some qigong is very concerned with inward cultivation and sealing the senses, cultivating lotus position and pointing fingers inwards towards the wrists like a hollow fist or hands at dantien. But I think perhaps cultivating lotus position, with energy flowing out the hands is a more advanced posture.

Qi practices also circulate energy and connect flows and acupoints, this is why if you bend forward you will next bend back, if you open you will next close.

The way the Earth's magnetic field is drawn now in modern times, looks almost exactly like how the energy of the human body was pictured and trained in ancient times. Ancient practices face south often too. Also ancient burials in different cultures are along north/South axis. It goes in through the center and out around both sides at different distances and cycles

That article also talks about how animals sense the earth's magnetic field, such as how birds sense the field with the Pineal body, to navigate flight.
It is like how one can be concious of the universe and solar systems

The heart's electromagnetic field for that matter-


Eye watching the universe from space

The energy centers of the human body

Qigong is cultivation of the mind's place in the universe, to be open to all power all creation, flowing. Buddhas, and cultivators of buddhahood do a meditation posture in which the first finger bends down to connect to the thumb, symbolising the ego's will bowing to the will of heaven. The Tao has the way of wu wei, action through non action, doing things in accordance with the eternal Tao and nature, and not through self, or the human mind's will. Jesus said you reap what you sow, but that it would be full, pressed down and overflowing. In a Path that became religous over time, there was a saying( in reference to the universal spirit), " your will be done, not mine, in me and through me", and goes on to say, " show me what I must do this day to be a channel of your blessing to all." The more consciouss of the eternal manifestiation of the great priciple, that which creates, consitutes, governs, sustains and contains all, the more in accordance to it's way and flow someone can be, in my understanding. Which can use both physical and mental activities.

Asian cultivation

Western cultivation



Taoist mudra

Buddha School Qigong

Hebrew language, mudras have symbolic meaning and are a way of communication. Some languages used by people in the past were divine in nature-

Info concerning how humans evolved and were created in all aspects. On the internet
Some Psychic phenomena has been shown to exist-

posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 10:40 PM
Info about the past and what Qigong is and what it's implications are to history and the human body. From the teaching of Falun Dafa, a great cultivation path which originates in an ancient prehistoric time, by Mr. Li Hongzhi

Qigong is Part of Prehistoric Culture

What is qigong? A lot of qigong masters are trying to address this question, but what I have to say is completely different. A lot of qigong masters talk about it at one level, while I’m talking at a higher level about how to understand qigong, and it’s nothing like how they understand it. Some qigong masters say that qigong has a 2,000-year history in our country. And others say qigong has a 3,000-year history. Some say it has a 5,000-year history, which would be about the same as the history of our Chinese civilization. And there are people who say that if you go by historic artifacts it has a 7,000-year history, which goes way beyond the history of our Chinese civilization. But all the same, the date doesn’t go much beyond the history of this civilization. Now, according to Darwin’s theory of evolution, man first evolved from aquatic plants into aquatic animals, then he climbed onto land, and later up into trees, then he came back down and turned into an ape, and then finally he evolved into modern man, who has culture and thought, which puts human civilization at only about 10,000 years old, if you figure that way. Go back a little further and there wouldn’t have even been quipu record-keeping, and they would have worn leaves and eaten raw meat. Go even further back, and maybe they wouldn’t even know how to make fire, and they would have been those totally savage, primitive people.

But something just doesn’t add up. There are a lot of places around the world where traces of ancient cultures have been left, and they’re really a lot older than our civilization. These ancient remains are excellent in terms of their craftsmanship, and if you look at the artistry they’re superb. It’s almost like modern folks are imitating the arts of ancient people, and they have great aesthetic value. But they’re from more than 100,000 years ago, hundreds of thousands of years ago, millions of years ago, or even more than 100 million years ago. Then think about it, isn’t this making a joke of "history" as we know it? But this really isn’t just another amusing idea, since mankind is perfecting itself and rediscovering itself on an ongoing basis, and that’s just how a society develops, so chances are what it knows at the beginning isn’t totally correct.

A good number of you have probably heard of the term prehistoric culture, which is also called prehistoric civilization. Let’s talk about prehistoric civilization. On the earth there is Asia, Europe, South America, North America, Oceania, Africa, and Antarctica, which geologists group together as continental plates. It’s been tens of millions of years since the continental plates formed, or you could say, a number of land masses rose from the ocean floor, and a lot of land masses sank to the bottom of the sea, and it’s been tens of millions of years since they stabilized as they are now. But at the bottom of a lot of oceans people have found tall and large ancient structures, the structures have elegant designs, and they aren’t cultural remains from today’s human race. So they must have been built before they sank to the sea bottom. Then who was it tens of millions of years ago that started those civilizations? Back then, our human race wouldn’t have even been monkeys, right—how could we have created such intelligent things? Today archaeologists have discovered that there was an organism called a trilobite, and that creature was active from 600 million years ago up until 260 million years ago. It hasn’t been around for 260 million years. Yet there’s an American scientist who discovered a trilobite fossil, and what was on it but a human footprint, the footprint of somebody wearing shoes, and the print was unmistakable. Isn’t that like playing a joke on historians? If you go by Darwin’s theory of evolution, tell me, could there be human beings 260 million years ago?

In the museum of the National University of Peru there’s a rock that has a human figure etched into it. A study determined that the figure was etched in the rock 30,000 years ago. But this figure is wearing clothes, he has a hat on, and he’s wearing shoes, in his hand he’s got a telescope and he’s observing the stars. Now how could people 30,000 years ago know how to weave cloth and put on clothes? What’s even more incredible is that he’s holding a telescope and observing the stars, he knew something about astronomy. We’ve always thought that the European, Galileo, invented the telescope, and that it was just a little over 300 years ago. So who would have invented the telescope 30,000 years ago? And there are lots and lots of other unsolved mysteries. For example, many caves in France, South Africa, and the Alps have murals on the slate there, and the murals were etched in a fully lifelike and vivid way. The figures there were etched with great quality, and they’re coated with a type of mineral pigment. But those figures are dressed like modern people, and their clothes look a little like Western-style clothes—they’re wearing breeches. Some of them are holding things like tobacco pipes, and some are holding canes and wearing hats. Do you mean to tell me those monkeys hundreds of thousands of years ago could have had this level of artistry?

Let’s go back a little further. In Africa there’s the Gabon Republic, which has uranium ore. It’s a country that’s pretty underdeveloped and they don’t have the capacity to extract the uranium themselves, so they export the ore to developed countries. In 1972 a plant in France imported that uranium ore, and after chemical analysis they found that the uranium ore had already been tapped and used. They thought it was strange, and so they sent over some scientists and technical personnel to make an on-site investigation. Scientists from a lot of countries went there to investigate. They eventually verified that the uranium ore mine was a large-scale nuclear reactor, and the layout was really technically sound. There’s no way even us modern folks could create something like that. So when was it built? Two billion years ago, and it operated for 500,000 years. These numbers are just astronomical. There’s no way to explain it with Darwin’s theory of evolution. And there are tons of things like this. The scientific and technological community has discovered enough new things to change our current textbooks. Once mankind gets its thinking stuck in an old, deep rut, it’s hard for people to accept new ideas. And even when the truth is revealed people don’t dare to accept it—they just reject it impulsively. Because of the influence of old ways of thinking nobody is organizing these things today in a systematic way, and so people’s thinking never keeps up with new developments. You bring up these things, and, even though they’ve been discovered, and just not yet publicized much, you have people who still blurt out "blind belief" and just can’t accept it.

posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 10:42 PM

There are a lot of brave scientists in other countries who have publicly acknowledged that these things come from prehistoric cultures, and that they’re from a civilization that came before this human civilization of ours, meaning, before this civilization of ours there were other periods of civilization, and not just one. You can tell by looking at archeological objects that they weren’t all from one period of civilization. So they think that after the many times civilization suffered a devastating blow, only a small number of people survived, they lived primitively, then gradually multiplied into a new human race, and began a new civilization. Then it would head for destruction again, and again they would multiply into a new human race. So that’s how it’s gone through all of these different cyclical changes, time after time. Physicists say that the motion of matter has patterns. Our entire universe’s changes also have patterns.

The movement of our planet earth, when it’s in this vast universe, and when it’s in this turning Milky Way, there’s just no way it could have always had smooth sailing, and chances are it’s run into other planets, or had other problems, and these would have brought about huge catastrophes. If we look at it from the perspective of abilities, that’s just how it was arranged. One time I traced it back carefully and found out that there have been 81 times when mankind lay in total ruin, and only a few people survived, only a little of the prehistoric civilization was left, and then they entered the next period and lived primitively. When the people multiplied enough, civilization would finally appear again. So it’s gone through 81 of these cycles, and I didn’t trace it back to the end. The Chinese people talk about opportunities of time granted by Heaven, geographical advantages, and unity among the people. Different changes in celestial phenomena, or different times granted by Heaven, these can bring about different situations in the ordinary world. In physics they say that the motion of matter follows patterns. Well, the same goes for the motion of the universe.

The main reason I just talked about prehistoric culture was to make this point: qigong is not something that today’s human race came up with, it was handed down from ages ago, and it’s part of prehistoric culture. And we can find some passages about this in scriptures. Back in his day, Shakyamuni said that he completed his cultivation and became Enlightened many, many hundreds of millions of kalpa ago. So then how many years are in a kalpa? One kalpa is many, many hundreds of millions of years. You really can’t even imagine a number that huge. So if what he said is true, then doesn’t it match up with mankind’s history and the changes the whole earth has been through? And another thing Shakyamuni said was that before him there were six Buddhas of the primeval age, that he had masters, and so on, and that all of them had cultivated and become Enlightened many, many hundreds of millions of kalpa ago. So if these things are really true, then could some of those authentic, real practices and some of the legitimately passed down ones that are spread in the world today, could they include those types of cultivation ways? If you ask me, I’d say of course, sure. But you don’t see them much. Nowadays those fake qigong, phony qigong, and those people who are possessed go and recklessly concoct some stuff to con people, and they outnumber the true qigongs by umpteen times. It’s hard to make out which is real and which is fake. And it’s hard to tell if something is real qigong. It’s not that easy to find.

Actually, qigong isn’t the only thing left from ages ago. The Tai-ji symbol, the Hetu and Luoshu diagrams, the Book of Changes, and the Eight Trigrams, to name just a few, all of these have been passed down from prehistory. So today when we go and study it from an ordinary person’s standpoint, or try to understand it that way, it’s just not going to make sense no matter how we try. When you look at things from the level of an ordinary person, or from that standpoint, or that level of awareness, there’s no way you’re going to understand what is real.

Qigong is About Cultivation

Qigong has been around for ages, so just what exactly is it for? I’m going to tell you, what we have here is a Buddhist cultivation Great Law, so of course it’s for cultivating Buddhahood. And Daoists, of course, cultivate the Dao to attain the Dao. I can tell you that the idea of "Buddha" isn’t blind belief. "Buddha" is a term from Sanskrit, which is a language of ancient India. When it was brought to our China it had two words, pronounced "Fo Tuo." Some people also translated it as "Fu Tu." Then, as it was passed around by people, and as it was handed down over the generations, we Chinese people left out one of the words and just called it "Fo." So what does this term mean in Chinese? It means "Enlightened One"—a person who’s become Enlightened by cultivating. How’s that "blind belief"?

So let’s think about it. Cultivation can bring out a person’s supernatural abilities. Six types of abilities are recognized in the world today, but there are more than just those. I’d say there’s around 10,000 true abilities. Just suppose that while sitting in place, and without moving his hands or feet, somebody could do what other people can’t do even with their hands and feet, and he could see the true laws governing every dimension of the universe, and the reality of the universe—he could see things that ordinary people can’t. Isn’t that somebody who’s attained the Dao by cultivating? Isn’t he a Great Enlightened Being? Could you say he’s the same as an ordinary person? Isn’t he somebody who’s become Enlightened by cultivating? Isn’t it only right to call him "an Enlightened Being"? When you put it into the language of ancient India, that’s a "Buddha." And that is what it’s really about—that is what qigong is for.

The moment qigong comes up there’s always somebody who says, "Why would you want to practice qigong if you don’t have health problems?" He’s implying that qigong is just for healing, and that’s a really, really shallow understanding of it. But you can’t blame him, because a lot of qigong masters are just healing people and helping them stay fit, that stuff, they just talk about healing and fitness, and nobody is teaching higher things. I’m not trying to say their practices aren’t good. It’s actually their mission to teach things at the level of healing and fitness, and popularize qigong. But there are a lot of folks who want to cultivate to high levels. They think about this, and they have the heart for it, but they don’t know how to cultivate themselves, and this has brought them a lot of hardship, and they’ve run into a lot of problems. Now of course, really transmitting a practice at high levels is going to involve higher things. So we’ve made a point of being responsible to society, and to all people, and the overall results of transmitting this practice have been good. Some of the things are high-level, and maybe it sounds like we’re talking about blind beliefs, but we’ll try our best to use modern science when we explain them.

posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 10:42 PM

When we mention certain things some people blurt right out, "blind belief." Why do they do that? Their criteria for something being "blind belief" or "quackery" is that it’s whatever science hasn’t grasped, or whatever they haven’t experienced first-hand, or whatever they think can’t possibly exist. That’s their way of thinking. So is that way of thinking correct? Can you just dismiss something as blind belief or quackery just because science hasn’t grasped it yet, or just because science isn’t far enough along to explain it yet? Aren’t these people themselves full of blind belief? And aren’t they caught up in quackery? If everybody thought that way, could science develop? Could it move forward? Society wouldn’t be able to make progress. The things that our scientific and technological community has invented are all things that people didn’t have at one time. If those things were all thought of as blind belief, then there’d be no point in talking about progress, right? Qigong isn’t quackery. But there are always a lot of people who think it is, since they don’t understand it. But with the use of scientific instruments people have now detected on the bodies of qigong masters things like infrasonic waves, ultrasonic waves, electromagnetic waves, infrared, ultraviolet, gamma rays, neutrons, atoms, and trace metal elements. Aren’t those all concrete things? They’re matter. Aren’t all things made of matter? Aren’t other space-times made of matter? Could you call them blind belief? Qigong is for cultivating Buddhahood, so of course there are going to be a lot of profound things involved. And we’re going to explain all of them.

So if that’s what qigong is for, why do people call it qigong? It’s not really called qigong. What’s it called? It’s called cultivation—it is cultivation. Of course, it has other specific names, but as a whole it’s called cultivation. So why do people call it qigong, then? You know, qigong has been popular for over 20 years. It started as early as the middle of the Cultural Revolution, and at the end of the Cultural Revolution it began to peak. Now think about it. Back then the ultra-leftist, Maoist thought was going strong. Let’s not get into what names qigong had in prehistoric cultures. But as this civilization of ours was developing, it went through a feudal period, so it had names that sounded pretty medieval. And the ones related to religions often had names that sounded pretty religious, like, "Dafa of Cultivating Dao," "Vajra Meditation," "Way of Arhat," "Dafa of Cultivating Buddha," "Nine-Fold Immortality Elixir Method." They were names like those. If you used those names during the Cultural Revolution, wouldn’t you have been publicly denounced? That wish that qigong masters had to popularize qigong was good, and they did it to heal the masses and keep them fit, it was to improve people’s physical conditions—that was great, wasn’t it?—but it still wouldn’t have gone over well, so they didn’t dare use those names. So to popularize qigong, a lot of qigong masters plucked two words from The Book of Elixir and the Daoist Canon and then called it "qi gong." Some people even dig into the term qigong and research it, but there’s nothing there to study. It just used to be called cultivation. Qigong is just a new term that came along in order to suit modern people’s thinking. That’s all.

posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 10:43 PM

I said before that Dafa was taught in the human world back in the past. A lot of students then asked me when it was taught. It was taught on the previous Earth. Why? The previous Earth was an experiment conducted for this Earth. The old forces experimented with the last Earth so as to make sure there wouldn't be problems at the end with their arrangements for the renewal. It was to make sure that no problems would come up, and to prevent it from going awry. So why did they need to do such a long-term experiment? Because there had never before been any beings like man here at this Earth's location. Why do I always talk about alien beings? It's because no matter how many Earths were renewed in the past, the main beings here at this Earth's location were like alien life-forms. There were differences in each time period, but none of them had the image of man.

Why did the Gods in history create man in their own image? This has been a mystery to the cultivation world, too. I'll tell you, it's because the Fa was to be taught here, and sentient beings who listen to the Fa need to have an appearance that's worthy of listening to the Fa. Bringing a bunch of animals here to listen to the Fa would be an insult to the Great Fa, and that's just not allowed. If it weren't for Dafa's being taught, were a God to create beings here with man's image, all the Gods would eliminate him, since that would be the same as insulting Gods. It was for Fa-rectification that Gods created human beings on Earth in their own image. Asians were created by Gods who resemble Asians, Westerners were created by Gods who resemble Westerners, and Gods who resemble black people created black people, and other races of people were created by other Gods. At that time all humans called those Gods who created them Lords. But now ninety percent of the human race are beings from high levels, and most of them are from very high levels. They are merely using the human skins that Gods created back then; they don't really have a direct relationship with the Gods who created man's being. Back when I taught the Fa on the first Earth, I didn't teach a Fa of this magnitude, because that was only for experimental purposes. The Fa that was taught only saved sentient beings to the Falun Paradise, so the sentient beings that were saved during that period are all in the Falun Paradise. That Earth was allowed to exist until the final stage. The technology at that time was quite advanced; that was when the moon was sent up there. Yet the highly-developed industrial sector made the air, the water, the soil, the plants, and the food of humans--everything at that time--become deformed. In the end, even humans became deformed, Earth's energy was completely depleted, and the humans of that period came to an end.

So this period of Earth began 100 million years ago. Some of you present here might be thinking, "But what I learned from textbooks is that it's been 3.5 billion to 4.5 billion years." I can tell you that the period of each Earth has lasted 100 million years, and the previous Earth also lasted 100 million years. But in Zhuan Falun I also told you that the artifacts on Earth date back hundreds of millions of years, and that some of them go back more than 2 billion years. I was only trying to tell people that prehistoric civilizations existed. People are only allowed to know that much; that is, that within the history of this 100 million years mankind also created many prehistoric cultures. The planets that were previously at Earth's location also went through disintegration and re-creation many times. In the cosmos many planets disintegrate and their remnants float about, forming dust and small star-like objects. In the gigantic cosmic body, planets are continually disintegrating and continually re-forming, and they are disintegrated by explosions. Earth was also re-formed from previous Earths consecutively exploding and then re-forming into the next Earth--one explodes, the next one re-forms. There's a lot of dust in space. Some of it is huge, some of it's like large rocks, some of it is as large as several square kilometers, and some is even as large as 100 square kilometers. There have been civilizations on every planet, and previous Earths also had civilizations. So, on many big pieces of things that weren't completely destroyed by the explosions, there are remnants of the previous creatures' civilizations. When Earth was re-created it was done by putting together this cosmic dust, and this is why there are remnants of artifacts and of civilizations from previous Earths and other planets. So if I didn't reveal this today, geologists and historians wouldn't be able to figure out which periods the materials on this Earth are from, regardless of the methods they use. This Earth, as I just said, has a history of 100 million years; counting up to the present it's exactly 100 million years, and it has reached the age of the previous Earth that was here. Of course, during these 100 million years mankind has gone through several civilizations, and been destroyed by Gods many times for its moral decay. The so-called civilization mankind has right now was purposefully arranged by the old forces--it's not a true human culture.

Then why not directly create human skins at the time when the Fa is taught and have Gods come down here to listen to the Fa? Why instead create man so much earlier in history? You need to know that when Gods create humans, they can't include in them Gods' thoughts and ways of thinking, since that would make them complete Gods, not human beings. And that's not allowed. Although humans have the appearance of Gods, Gods can't regard humans as their kin, for humans behave completely differently from Gods. So, what were humans like initially? The body structure of humans was created by Gods, so it is the most perfect human body system in this dimension. All the alien beings sigh in admiration when they see it! Of course, it also includes humans' three souls and seven spirits, and together this forms a complete human body. Without the three souls and seven spirits it would only be a human body's surface, or a "human skin." The concept of the "human skin" is different from the skin that human beings know. Gods consider everything of the human body at the outermost surface that's made up of molecular particles, including its bones, blood, internal organs, and so on, the entire human body structure at the surface, or to put it another way, looking at it from the microcosm, the human that's made up of molecular cells at the surface, everything that's visible to the human eye when the body is dissected, Gods refer to this whole structure at the surface as a "human skin." They aren't referring to the skin of human beings.

posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 10:44 PM

Many people say that the Mayan culture was related to today’s Mexicans. Actually, it had nothing at all to do with the Mexicans, who are only a mixed race of the Spaniards and the indigenous people. The Mayan culture, on the other hand, belonged to the previous civilization’s period in history. That human race was destroyed in Mexico, and only a small number of people survived. But the Mayan culture was directly related to Mongolians. I won’t get into the details here. Humankind doesn’t know its own historical origins. The same is true for the Caucasians. During the last great flood—the last human civilization was destroyed by a great flood—all the big mountains on the earth that had elevations of less than two thousand meters were submerged, and only the people who lived above two thousand meters survived. The story of Noah’s Ark is true. During that great flood the Western culture was completely destroyed, and the Eastern culture was also in ruins. But the mountain people who lived in the areas of the Himalayan and Kunlun Mountains and who were like rural people were fortunate enough to escape—the Chinese people who lived in the Kunlun Mountains survived. At that time the Eastern culture was well-developed; Yellow River Diagram (Hetu), Luo River Writings (Luoshu), Book of Changes (I Ching), Tai Chi, Eight Trigrams (Bagua), and so on were inherited from the past. People say that they were created by this person or that person of a later generation. Those people only modified them and made them public again. They weren’t created by those people at all, and were all from prehistoric cultures. Although these things were passed down in China, there were even more of them during China’s development in history. More were preserved in ancient times, but they became fewer and fewer as they were passed down. So it’s a nation with a rich cultural background and deep historical origins—that’s China. The Caucasian culture, on the other hand, was wiped out after it was completely submerged by that great flood. At that time, alongside the continent of Europe there was another continent that also sank. That was their most developed area, and it sank, too. So the Caucasians have redeveloped from nothing—no civilization at all—to the science they have today.

The science of ancient China is different from this empirical science of the West. Many archeologists have discussed these issues with me, and I explained everything to them. They also felt that this is the case, because they had many puzzling questions that couldn’t be explained. As I just said, humankind’s understanding of the universe can’t possibly go much further. Nowadays, the starting point of many scientists’ research is wrong. Those who’ve made some achievements in their fields, in particular, are unable to let go of them. They’ve defined what they have understood and set limits. Many of you in the audience are students studying outside China, Ph.D.’s., and Master’s degree holders with open minds. You’ll find that their definitions are correct within the scope of their realms, but that once you go beyond their understanding and their realm the definitions are wrong and restrictive. A truly accomplished scientist is one who dares to break through these limits. For Einstein, too, what he said was only correct within the realm of his understanding; but beyond that realm, what he said is found to be wrong. Do you see the principle? This is because when humans have ascended, when the state of your thinking approaches the high-level truth, and when you approach high levels, you’ll find that the understandings at low levels are wrong. This is how it is."

Info concerning how humans evolved and were created in all aspects. On the internet
Some Psychic phenomena has been shown to exist-

Edgar Cayce spoke of Lemuria, which was one of the oldest civilizations on Earth, it is now destroyed, and deep under the Pacific ocean-

Here are some images of some Megalithic remains of civilization that are now under the pacific ocean

We were all one at one time. There was no seperation, no time or space. But when you are only one, there is only you, nothing "else" to interact with. In order to experience interaction and play, the One divided within itself, into many Ones, many beings and "souls" within the One, and initiating the dimensions of "time" and "space". It was done through vibration.

There is only one begotten son of the Great Prinicple or God, which is the One universe, which is all.

Within the One we were angelic beings, beings that are hard to conceive of in our current state of conciousness today. We were more like thought forms and beings of light free to roam "ourselves", or the entire cosmos of countless dimensions and heavenly paradises.

But within the One, were the "material" planes. Many souls, part of "us", eventually came to the physical plane and descended into it by accident, and we were mixed up and trapped in the material plane in the most sensational materialistic forms. We were initially very impressed with the sensational material plane and some of us came to what is known as Earth and played in it, taking on what seemed like would be very desirable forms. Mixtures of many animals, taking shapes now only found in ancient myths and legends, such as the Minotaur, Centaur, Mermaid etc... Whatever forms were the most sensational, we adopted and formed with our minds and thoughts. But we became hardened and set in materiality and the material plane, and then our previous high level universal conciousness was gone instantly. Our 7 chakras were closed. Our conciousness no longer belonged to the pure spiritual realms since becoming material, but not really belonging in the purity of the material animal realm either, it was inharmonious. We suffered in a pitiful state of conciousness, and they belonged nowhere.

We were essentially "Humanimal" beings, and these humanimals were the first wave of souls that descended to earth

Global Mythology

posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 10:46 PM
From the Lost teachings of Atlantis, the teachings of the Children of the Law of One, by Jon Peniel, explaining the past history of Earth in the universe

A Religion that is Not a Religion

Noah paused, and stroked his beard for a moment.

"While the Children of the Law of One™ is a spiritual 'way', and also a monastic order, I suppose you could say it is somewhat like a religion. But, it is not a religion in a couple of very important ways. To start with, none of the above reasons were behind the founding of the Children, nor do they play a part in what they teach. There is no control. Not even an attempt to influence, only to educate and reflect the truth.

To understand why the Children of the Law™ of One was created, and what their foundations are, we need to go back to the beginnings of human life on Earth."

Ooooo, it sounded like we were going to get into some more interesting stuff.

"Please go on," I said.

"I will, just give me a moment." More "beard-stroking meditation" ensued, as he prepared himself to tell us the story.

The Fall

This book devotes an entire chapter to the history of the Children of the Law of One™ , from its Genesis prior to Atlantis, to the present, directly translated from the ancient texts, and my accounts of recent developments. But in the following segment, Noah just briefly describes the specific aspects of that history which led to the creation of the Children. You've heard Darwin, you've heard Genesis. Now you are about to hear another theory, the first one that made sense to me. And according to the Atlantean teachings, Genesis is actually a simplified, loose allegory, based on this.

"The historical records start with the premise that there is One Great Being (God/Universal Spirit) that is All things, including the Universe itself. It divides/multiplies within itself creating us, thus, our history begins with all of us (humans) essentially being part of, and One with God. The records describe us as being spiritual or 'angelic' beings, free to roam, create, and enjoy the Universe. The teachings go on to say that our beginnings on Earth, came in two steps - a 'first wave', and 'second wave' of 'human' (& semi-human) materialization into physical bodies on Earth. At the time, we had the ability to instantly alter our vibration, and instantly create anything we desired, with a mere thought. It was in this way that we 'thought ourselves' into matter, into material existence on Earth. Which began our fall from our angelic state, and Oneness with God.

You have probably heard of mythological beings such as the Minotaur, Centaur, Mermaid, etc.. The Minotaur, had a bull's head and a human body, the Centaur, a human head and torso with a horse's body. You may also have seen pictures of Egyptian 'gods' with animal heads and human bodies, or animal bodies and human heads (like the Sphinx). In the Pacific regions, ancient drawings and carvings of 'bird headed' humans can be found on both sides of the ocean. Why do you think so much of this exists? Many legends and myths have some foundation in fact, and this is no exception. The ancient teachings from Atlantis, reveal that such creatures did indeed exist, and that their origins were not what you might expect - they were the fallen angelic beings from the 'first wave' of materialization on Earth."

"Fallen angels??? You mean like Lucifer?"

"Well, yes and no. You have a misconception of sorts. That is a personalized concept from the allegory. The first wave of materialization was a terrible mistake [Author's note: this will be explained in greater detail in the history chapter]. The first wave beings materialized as partly human/partly animal creatures. This is why in the story of Lucifer, or the various creatures that were called 'devils' or demons or whatever, appear as horned, cloven hoofed creatures with tails - the fact is, they were part goat. This is why goats have become associated with the devil also. But evil, is an entirely different matter. Think not that evil does not exist. But true evil, disguises itself, and points the finger at innocents."

"So Lucifer was not evil?"

"Not initially. The stories you have heard have become terribly mixed up. Even the bible originally paints him as a great angel. But there was no 'rebellion' or defiance against the will of God until AFTER this fall, not prior to the fall as is often depicted. It was just a mistake at first. Try telling one person in the meeting hall a story, and ask him to repeat it quietly to the next, and the next person to the next, until it comes back to you. By the time you hear your original story, it will not even be recognizable. That is why our teaching methods are so stringent. We must keep the truth straight, and consistent, and this has been assured by our forbearers.

Getting back to the primary teaching today, there were more 'fallen angels' than Lucifer. And they took many different part animal forms. For ease of description we call the part human, part animal beings that fell into physical vibration or matter, during the 'first wave' of materialization, 'humanimals'. As soon as the first wave beings materialized in their 'humanimal' bodies, they suffered a great 'fall' in vibration from their previous spiritual, angelic state of existence. They instantly experienced a near total loss of consciousness, awareness, and intelligence. In less than the twinkling of an eye, the consciousness that just moments before, had encompassed the entire Universe, and experienced Oneness with the Universal Spirit/God, was virtually gone. The new limited consciousness of these pitiful creatures, 'trapped' them on the physical plane of the Earth, where they had to live in ignorance, with their animal-like intelligence and awareness. They were suddenly isolated from Universal/God Consciousness, and trapped in the lonely anguish of 'separate' consciousness. This separate consciousness gave birth to a sort of separate free will, which was ignorantly used selfishly, rather than in harmony with the will of God. Ultimately, they would also be trapped in slavery. Evil is spawned by selfishness, but later, even greater degrees of evil came about (which we will discuss more later). Yet all selfishness and evil, has since mistakenly been blamed on these poor unfortunate 'first waver humanimals'. To be sure, some had horns, and tails, and cloven hoofs - but they have been used as 'scape goats', and diversions, in order for others, including regular humans, to avoid taking personal responsibility for the real evil, the real devil, which is the selfishness living inside each human who maintains separate consciousness from the Oneness of God."

Other novice monks in the class, including me, immediately responded with a flurry of questions.

"What do you mean?"

"How can this be?"

"How did it happen?"

"Slow down," Noah said. "One question at a time please. All will be answered in time.

posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 10:47 PM

Remember, we were spirits only. Very 'fine', 'high-frequency' vibrational beings, with no experience in this physical realm. These humanimals came upon their terrible fate because of a rapid, uncontrolled slowing down of their vibrational frequencies, for purposes of materialization of their spiritual selves into the material plane of the Earth. It occurred in a way that cut them off from their normal consciousness, like changing the dials on a radio to an area of radio frequency that had nothing to receive. Their 'internal radio' of consciousness, was no longer 'tuned in' to God. It was a materialization that went too far, too deep, into the dense, slow vibrations of the physical plane. When the finer frequencies were 'cut off', they were left 'cut off' from God and the rest of spiritual creation, and thus the consciousness of the Oneness of the Universe - the consciousness of God - the Universal Spirit. This left them with only a 'separate self consciousness', that lost touch with 'Oneness Consciousness', or 'Universal Consciousness'.

"Then why aren't all of us still lost, and out of touch with God?"

"A couple of reasons. Some of us did not make this 'fall'. Those who didn't fall, were still in their angelic state, and watched all this happen to the first wavers. Our grand master [Author's note: later known as Jesus in his last life on Earth], organized and led a rescue mission. With their great Love and compassion, many of the other angelic beings who had not 'fallen', decided to help the trapped first wavers, even at great risk of the same fate. They became what we call the 'second wavers'.

The second wavers knew they could only help the first wavers, if they too, materialized in forms that would allow them to work on the lost souls (the humanimal creatures) in their own physical form and dimension. And the grand master and various angelic volunteers, knew that in order to do that, it would require lowering their own vibration, towards that of the physical plane, and subsequently lowering their consciousness to some extent. They knew this was dangerous, and that they had to be very careful how they did this, and be careful about how deeply they went into physical matter, or they too would become trapped in limited consciousness just as the humanimals were. Thus the ancient Atlantean teachings describe how this second wave, became the first consciously controlled thought projection, or materialization, of modern 'human' life on Earth (or at least they eventually became modern humans as they gradually solidified into the material plane from their spiritual 'angelic' state). The ape-like early human form was actually just eventually chosen by second wavers as the preferred type of physical vehicle to model themselves after, because it allowed for the greatest control and manipulation in the physical plane, that would be required to help the first wavers. That is why scientists cannot find the 'missing link' - because there simply is none. Because while evolutionary change certainly does exist, our present existence on Earth did not involve evolving for millions of years from apes."

Again, if the above theory of creation that is offered by the ancient Atlantean teachings, is disagreeable to you - no "biggy", that's OK. There are all kinds of theories of creation, that people are VERY intense and pushy about. We aren't.

Scientists are supposed to stay objective, and stick to proven facts, and if they can't present absolutely proven facts, they are supposed to present their ideas as "theories", and only as "theories". Yet many alleged "scientists", have sneakily insinuated, and taught the "theory" of evolution of humans from apes, as FACT, even when they have a huge gap, a huge "missing link" in their "theory"- they have not found a direct ancestral lineage of modern man, that connects the whole evolution of apes and "cave men" types of semi-ape, semi-humans. And on the flip side of the evolutionist theories, many religions have followers, and thus money and power at stake. Unlike both of those categories, we have nothing at stake, nothing to prove, nothing to lose or gain since we don't make money or get power from the teachings we present. While we have had personally viewed it as an historical, written record, you are welcome to "take them or leave them". We really, really don't care if you believe the concepts of history or creation presented in this book, or not. If it "rings the bell of truth" for you, fine. If it doesn't, that's OKtoo. We obviously can't prove ancient history, nor do we feel it is important. It isn't important. We really, truly, don't care about any of those intellectual ideas, theories, or concepts. We DO care about the reality of human life and suffering, NOW. The things that really impact everyone's lives on Earth. So what we want, and what we really care about, is simply for everyone to be kind, caring, compassionate, and harmless. Is it really too much to ask even if you believe you are descended from an ape? Is it really too much to ask if you believe God created you out of Adam's rib? Who cares? We don't think it's too much to ask. Regardless of what you believe, don't believe, or have faith in, or don't have faith in. The same goes for everything else you read in this book - who cares? Be nice. Let's all be real caring friends and family.

The Creation of The Children of the Law of One™

Before Noah could catch his breath, I began my eager questioning again, "So the second wave of materialization began as a 'rescue' operation of sorts - to save the 'humanimal' beings who 'fell' in the first wave? Please tell me more about who organized this, and how could they do anything about it?"

"Who, we will discuss later. Please just let me finish relating this part of the teachings.

In order to accomplish this 'rescue' as you called it, two things had to be done. One, methods had to be devised that would help the humanimals REGAIN their spiritual consciousness and awareness of Oneness with the Universal Spirit; and two, methods had to be devised for the second wavers to MAINTAIN their spiritual consciousness and awareness of Oneness with the Universal Spirit. To both these ends, second wave beings founded the spiritual path of the Children of the Law of One™ , and created the methods and teachings that are still in use, and valid, today.

Thus, the spiritual order of the Children of the Law of One™ was founded with a very specific and unique purpose. And while this order included aspects of what would later become numerous 'religions', the Children of the Law of One™ was unlike any other religion that would ever appear on Earth. And remains so. It was NOT created to fill a need in people's hearts and minds, NOR to strike fear into their hearts, NOR to worship anyone or anything, NOR to answer the spiritual questions that arose in the spiritually ignorant masses, NOR to control those masses. It was created before all those issues even existed."

"So the Children are not really a religion in a sense?"

"No. By many modern definitions, it could be considered such. But again, the whole point of the Children's materialization was to rescue their 'trapped' kin, by returning the first wavers to their angelic state of existence and awareness (Universal Consciousness). Thus the whole point of the Children's spiritual path, was to be able to enter the material plane so they could help the first wavers, while maintaining their own spiritual consciousness and angelic state, so they wouldn't get trapped also. If I may continue.

posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 10:48 PM

Falling Again

As the second wave rescue mission gradually descended into materiality and human form, some of them, lured by selfish desires, turned away from the Children's spiritual path. They then lost spiritual awareness, and separated from Oneness with God. Ultimately, this division created two 'religious' or 'philosophical' groups in Atlantis with very different purposes and 'politics' - the Sons of Belial and the Children of the Law of One™ .

The Sons of Belial mimicked the Children in many ways, even in the sense of being 'spiritual' or 'religious'. But their 'religious practices' were mockeries of true spirituality - phony, empty, and self-serving. They would use 'prayer' and visualization to attain whatever they wanted, and they turned a blind eye to what the repercussions of getting what they wanted would have on others. Some popular present-day religions, are offspring of the Belialian religion. And then there are the secret societies that still practice their original ways. In Atlantis, the most significant contention between the Children and the Belialians was over what to do about the humanimals. The humanimals were easily controlled by the powers of a second waver's mind, and they could be made to do anything just through visualization. Since the Belialians had turned away from their awareness of Oneness with God in favor of selfishness, they wanted to use the 'humanimals' as 'pet slaves'. The Children, however, still wanted to help return the humanimals to their higher state of consciousness. Thus the Children also became 'activists', and their goal as a group 'movement' was still to free their trapped kin, but now they also had to contend with other SECOND wavers who had 'gone bad'."

"So Noah, did the Children win out over the Belialians - there aren't any humanimals walking the Earth any more, right? Were they all killed, or rescued?"

"I'll answer that in a moment, but first let me say that even the best of the Children of the Law of One™ , eventually succumbed to some degree, to the separation from the Universal Spirit. But that is another story, which involves the allegory of Adam & Eve.

"Now, to answer your question, while part of the Children's goal was eventually achieved (the humanimals were freed from their animal entanglement after the destruction of Atlantis), freedom from darkness and slavery has not been fully accomplished. The battle continues. As far as the first wavers go, reincarnated humanimals still walk the Earth in normal human bodies - you have seen them. If you are observant, you can see subtle animal traits, mannerisms, or facial appearances on many of the people of the world. But humanimals or not, the age old struggle between the Children and the Belialians - the struggle of freedom against slavery, still continues. These days slavery can be in many forms, traditional, economic, socio-political oppression, imprisonment, and mental programming. The world is basically populated by five groups, the Children, Belialians, reincarnated "lost soul" first and second wavers, and the enlightened. Most from both the first and second waves, are still separate in consciousness from the Universal Spirit. That makes them easy prey for the Belialians, and they either become their pawns in one way or another, or their slaves in one way or another. [Author's note - In previous editions of this book, the only description of Belialians was that of the old teachings. This left many people confused about who and what they were, and how they look in modern times. Belialians are not some kind of genetic creatures who have physically lived and survived for thousands of years. Like all of us, they have continued to reincarnate, and live in modern human bodies. But they are so evil, those of us who are sensitive to it can sense or feel that. This can sometimes even be physically or intuitively seen as being reptilian-like, or as the old teachings call it, "lizard-like". But whether you see or sense this yourself, you can know them by their agenda. Lifetime after lifetime, they maintain their maniacal drive for power and agenda of slavery and domination. Many of them are the people who run the world. The upper echelon are the real power people pulling the strings behind the scenes. Like Initiate monks of the Children, the higher level Belialians are totally conscious and aware of who they are, and what they are doing. The middle and lower echelon are sometimes in the forefront, or in the public eye, functioning as political, military or business leaders who are apparently not being told what to do - yet they really are. Of course some leaders are just pawns, and not consciously aware of who they serve (and wouldn't care anyway). Belialians are usually born to rich and powerful families who are already of the Belialian heritage, and their families train them and continue to pass on their tradition. They go to the best schools and join the "right" "special" fraternities and sororities. They are trained in the ways of using visualization and ritual to practice their dark magic. They always want more money and power. They want to maintain economic slavery and child labor slavery in the world, and even worse. They want a state of total monitoring and control of all people (and they have been making great strides in this). They will use physical force to dominate and control if necessary, but mental programming through education, media, peer pressure, or other means, has been extremely successful - and parents continue to pass their own programming on to their children also. Examine world history and you see these struggles continuing through time - entire groups of evil oppressors trying to enslave. We have continued to fight them, and they continue to fight us. Just as many of the scientific advances have come from reincarnated Atlantean scientists, so too have those with thirst for power and control at any cost, come from reincarnated Belialians. They continue to develop more sophisticated ways to keep people under their control. So how do you identify them? Again, you can feel it, and sometimes see it when you look into their eyes. But anyone whose agenda is control of others, is either Belialian, or one of their pawns. They care only about themselves and would be willing to harm anyone or even everyone on the planet if it helps them get more power - and they can do this all with a big smile and warm handshake (which many people "buy" into as being a "nice" person). Ask yourself if this could be true, and feel the response from your inner voice.] Noah continues:

So our 'religion', and work, continues on. And now, because of the time and situation, you [he pointed at me!], will soon be publicly revealing the teachings of the Children, and heralding the coming spiritual changes.

Remember, because of the unique nature and purity of the Atlantean Children's spiritual way, it is as valuable today as it was then. Their teachings and methods can help anyone return to the Universal Spirit, achieve enlightenment, and live in harmony with Universal Law & Universal Will."

"Thank you Noah."

posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 10:50 PM

"Thank you Noah."

"It was my honor to help you." And with that, he bowed and kissed my hand with the feeling of love and respect that one might only expect to see offered to his teacher, or the head of the order. It was rather shocking to me, because I felt I wasn't worthy of it, didn't deserve it, and that it wasn't appropriate for someone of my humble station. But he was honoring who I was inside, which at the time, I didn't really see in myself (even though my ego thought it did). Nevertheless, it was there, just waiting to manifest. [Author's note: Now, as I deal with my students and others, I also see who they really are inside - their potential - and support that. We relate to that as well as their present level of consciousness. To reinforce and strengthen the Inner Being, while attacking and starving the selfish separate self, is our constant function and duty]. Then Noah put his hands together and made a gesture of spiritual respect to the other novice monks in the chamber, and crawled off through the little door.

Originally, when the humanimals first materialized, some of us did not come to the material plane. We were aware of their situation, and we felt their pain of being trapped in materiality. They were after all, a part of us, they were us.

We decided to help them no matter the cost. We knew this could only be done if some of us also descended to earth, and we knew it was risky.

We needed a vehicle which could exist in the material plane, but could also enable us to be able to regain out previous universal conciousness once on earth.

It was done more or less successfully, so we started out were semi-etheric beings of light, or energy. Matter but not matter. Macrocosms of the One, Soul Groups, like Solar Systems,with both polarities and sexes harmoniously interacting within the one larger body.

The being who lead the rescue mission, was named Amilleous, or "Adam". In anothr incarnation he became known as the Great Atlantean Thoth

From a Tablet written by the Great Atlantean Priest, Grandmaster Thoth, Speaking on why some high level beings of the light have come to this physical plane and created the human race

Far in a past time, lost in the space time,
the Children of Light looked down on the world.
Seeing the children of men in their bondage,
bound by the force that came from beyond.
Knew they that only by freedom from bondage
could man ever rise from the Earth to the Sun.

Down they descended and created bodies,
taking the semblance of men as their own.
The Masters of everything said after their forming:

"We are they who were formed from the space-dust,
partaking of life from the infinite ALL;
living in the world as children of men,
like and yet unlike the children of men."

Then for a dwelling place, far 'neath the earth crust,
blasted great spaces they by their power,
spaces apart from the children of men.
Surrounded them by forces and power,
shielded from harm they the Halls of the Dead.

Side by side then, placed they other spaces,
filled them with Life and with Light from above.
Builded they then the Halls of Amenti,
that they might dwell eternally there,
living with life to eternity's end.

Thirty and two were there of the children,
sons of Lights who had come among men,
seeking to free from the bondage of darkness
those who were bound by the force from beyond.

Deep in the Halls of Life grew a flower, flaming,
expanding, driving backward the night.

Placed in the centre, a ray of great potence, Life
giving, Light giving, filling with power all who came near it.
Placed they around it thrones, two and thirty,
places for each of the Children of Light,
placed so that they were bathed in the radiance,
filled with the Life from the eternal Light.

There time after time placed they their first created bodies
so that they might by filled with the Spirit of Life.
One hundred years out of each thousand must the
Life-giving Light flame forth on their bodies.
Quickening, awakening the Spirit of Life.

There in the circle from aeon to aeon,
sit the Great Masters,
living a life not known among men.
There in the Halls of Life they lie sleeping;
free flows their Soul through the bodies of men.

Time after time, while their bodies lie sleeping,
incarnate they in the bodies of men.
Teaching and guiding onward and upward,
out of the darkness into the light.

It started out well, however, the temptation of power, sensationalism, and selfish conciousness in the material plane began to creep in. And we began to seperate into the 2 sexes, and harden into materiality

The primitive animals and humanoid creatures of earth were used as a model. But humans never evolved from any apes, animals or cavemen. That's why the missing link has never been found, there simply is none

Interpretation of Edgar Cayce readings

Homo sapiens appeared in five different places on earth at the same time, as the five races. This evolved human is what the Bible refers to as "Adam". When souls incarnated into physical form, it would bring the divine consciousness (i.e., the spirit) in with it. Cayce referred to this divine consciousness as the "Christ Consciousness" or "Buddhahood" or the "superconsciousness". Christ consciousness has little to do with the personality known as Jesus. It means that a person has attained a complete human-divine unity. This human-divine unity has been attained by many people thus far - one such person was Jesus.

From Edgar Cayce-

In the period, then -- some hundred, some ninety-eight thousand years before the entry of Ram into India -- there lived in this land of Atlantis one Amilius, who had first noted that of the separations of the beings as inhabited that portion of the earth's sphere or plane of those peoples into male and female as separate entities, or individuals. As to their forms in the physical sense, these were much rather of the nature of thought forms, or able to push out of themselves in that direction in which its development took shape in thought -- much in the way and manner as the amoeba would in the waters of a stagnant bay, or lake in the present. As these took form, by the gratifying of their own desire for that as built or added to the material conditions, they became hardened or set -- much in the form of the existent human body of the day, with that of color as partook of its surroundings much in the manner as the chameleon in the present. Hence coming into that form as the red, or the mixture peoples -- or colors; known then later by the associations as red race. These, then, able to use in their gradual development all the forces as were manifest in their individual surroundings, passing through those periods of developments as has been followed more closely in that of the yellow, the black, or the white races, in other portions of the world; yet with their immediate surroundings, with the facilities for the developments, these became much speedier in this particular portion of the globe than in others -- and while the destruction of this continent and the peoples are far beyond any of that as has been kept as an absolute record, that record in the rocks still remains -- as has that influence of those peoples in that life of those peoples to whom those did escape during the periods of destruction make or influence the lives of those peoples to whom they came. As they may in the present, either through the direct influence of being regenerated, or reincarnated into the earth, or through that of the mental application on through the influences as may be had upon thought of individuals or groups by speaking from that environ.

posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 10:53 PM

As to the supplying of that as necessary to sustain physical life as known today, in apparel, or supplying of the bodily needs, these were supplied through the natural elements; and the developments came rather in the forms -- as would be termed in the present day -- of preparing for those things that would pertain to what would be termed the aerial age, or the electrical age, and supplying then the modes and manners of transposition of those materials about same that did not pertain to themselves bodily; for of themselves this was transposed, rather by that ability lying within each to be transposed in thought as in body.

Q. Was Atlantis one of the five points at which man appeared in the beginning, being the home of the red race?

A. One of the five points. As has been given, in what is known as Gobi, India, in Carpathia, or in that known as the Andes, and that known as in the western plain of what is now called America -- the five places. In their presentation, as we find, these -- in the five places, as man (Let's get the difference in that as first appeared (as thought forms) in what is known as Atlantis, and that as man appearing from those projections in the five places -- and, as has been given, from their environ took on that as became necessary for the meeting of those varying conditions under which their individualities and personalities began to put on form) -- one in the white, another in the brown, another in the black, another in the red. These, as we find, taking that form -- Would snow be the place for the black? or the sun the place for the white? or the desert and the hills for the white or the black? as were partakers of those things that brought about those variations in that which enters, or becomes as the outer presentation, or the skin, or the pigment that is presented in same.

Q. Did the appearance of the five races occur simultaneously?

A. Occurred at once.

Q. Describe the earth's surface at the period of the five projections?

A. This has been given. In the first, or that known as the beginning, or in the Caucasian and Carpathian, or the Garden of Eden, in that land which lies now much in the desert, yet much in mountain and much in rolling lands there. The extreme northern portions were then the southern portions, or the polar regions were then turned to where they occupied more of the tropical and semi-tropical regions; hence it would be hard to discern or discriminate the change. The Nile entered into the Atlantic Ocean. What is now the Sahara was an inhabited land and very fertile. What is now the central portion of this country, or the Mississippi basin, was then all in the ocean; only the plateau was existent, or the regions that are now portions of Nevada, Utah and Arizona formed the greater part of what we know as the United States. That along the Atlantic board formed the outer portion then, or the lowlands of Atlantis. The Andean, or the Pacific coast of South America, occupied then the extreme portion of Lemuria. The Urals and the northern regions of same were turned into a tropical land. The desert in the Mongolian land was then the fertile portion. This may enable you to form some concept of the status of the earth's representation at that time! The oceans were then turned about; they no longer bear their names, yet from whence obtained they their names? What is the legend, even as to their names?

DNA evidence confirms these timelines and matches the Edgar Cayce readings

Since the divine beings and soul groups who formed what became the human bodies in the physical realms had the capacity for enlightenment, they could easily control the mixed up humanimal createres. Some wanted to use them as slaves, others wanted only to help them.

Some wanted to use humanimals as slaves, and also began to destroy the environment

There became a division in Atlantis, between the Children of the Law of One who wanted only to help others, and The Sons of Belial who wanted power and control over others

posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 10:54 PM
Info on Atlantis

The earliest Atlanteans are described by Cayce as being thought projections and having a physical being in which both sexes, male and female, were present in the same 'body'. Unfortunately, however, corruption from the pure, virginal, ways of the Spirit/God soon cast a heavy cloud upon the earth.

These Atlantean thought-form 'beings' - projecting 'vibrations' of pure white light and energy - gradually began to take on a more material shape and density and began to engage upon acts of sheer self-indulgence. These physically-encased thought-form projections, through the passage of time, began to separate into two groups; those who followed the Laws of One and those that chose to follow the Sons of Belial.

The Law of One still maintained the highest standards of consciousness and were able to continue vibrating at only the very highest level of light and energy; and still remained very close and true to the one Creator/God.

The Sons of Belial, on the other hand, were only interested in the amplification of the ego, self-aggrandizement and carnal pursuits. They tried to introduce the daughters of the Law of One to the pleasures of the flesh (with some considerable success!) and did their best to try and control all the spiritual laws to enhance all their materialistic purposes.

As time passed by, many of the original members of the Law of One fell by the wayside and found it much easier to follow the dictates of the Sons of Belial than remain true to their original standards and ethics!

The early Atlanteans lived in groups but not as households or families as we know them today! There were priests, laborers, producers, farmers, artisans, time-keepers and a most interesting and puzzling group which Cayce described as 'things' or 'mere machines'. One of the 'arguments' between the Law of One and the Sons of Belial was over the treatment and use of these 'things' . . .

Gradually, a civilization was created in Atlantis which surpassed all historical empires - past, present and future - in its scientific and economic achievements. The Atlanteans appeared to have developed technology which allowed them to have created aircraft, air-balloons, submarines, elevators, a broadcasting system, and even computers! The aircraft and submarines were also used for destructive purposes as well as for the benefit of the Atlantean population.

Other 'dual-purpose' discoveries included a death-ray, explosives, radioactive forces and atomic energy. As the Atlanteans began to increase their knowledge and understanding of all these destructive forces, the natural balance of nature precipitated the first destruction of Atlantis.

The only dated event in the life-readings, which may be associated with the first Atlantean destruction was the summit meeting of the countries of the world held in 50,722 BC. This meeting was brought about by the invasion of Atlantis by the giant members of the animal kingdom! The decisions of the countries which attended this summit-meeting are not clear. However, the Sons of Belial appear to have misused their knowledge in their attempts to destroy the invading animals.

Despite the best efforts of the Sons of Belial it appears that the animals were eventually destroyed by the power of Spirit/God, ice and through movement of the North/South Pole axis.

The effects and the extent of the first Atlantean Disaster was such that the Continent was broken up into five islands. On every occasion when Atlantis suffered cataclysmic disaster, its civilization was very advanced scientifically and technologically.

By the time of the second major disaster - about 28,000 BC - the Atlanteans were able to travel in every element; air, water and on land! Not only did they have aircraft but they also had guided craft as well.

The Atlanteans enjoyed all our 'modern' developments and many which yet remain undiscovered by our present day inventors and scientists. Machines and lasers were used in Atlantis for the rejuvenation of the body. Atlantean technology could also assist in developing one's psychic abilities, including telepathy and astral traveling.

Just prior to the second destruction of Atlantis, the Atlanteans had become, once again, more decadent and corrupt. The Law of One and the Sons of Belial engaged in lengthy disputes. One of these disputes was over the use of the group which Cayce termed 'things'. Should they be used as beasts of burden, workers in clay, in mills? Some Atlanteans appear to have aided them in their development; others preferred to exploit them!

As before the first destruction, spiritual laws were being applied to material gain. And although the Atlantean people appear to have had repeated warnings of the impending disaster, the majority seemed to have totally ignored them and continued to misuse their knowledge and power. This second 'destruction' resulted in a considerable loss of land and in climactic changes.

After the second 'destruction', the Atlanteans were forced to make many adjustments and alterations to the new conditions which they faced. Their scientific achievements were still considerable, although they do not appear to now be as advanced as in the two previous eras.

The previous disasters had left Atlantis as a group of Islands, the chief ones being called, Poseidia, Aryan and Og. There was a perpetual state of unrest and rebellion throughout the whole continent. The differences and on-going disagreements between the Law of One and the Sons of Belial did not diminish. And the Sons of Belial continued to divert the Spiritual Laws of knowledge and understanding for their own pleasure and to exert as much power as possible over the Atlantean population. And it was the Sons of Belial who instigated the final - terminal - devastation and destruction of Atlantis through their continued use of all their destructive energies and powers.

Although the destruction itself - when it came - may have appeared fairly sudden, many advanced warnings were given of what was going to occur. Those members of the Law of One - who had remained uncorrupted - took charge of arranging for the 'transportation' of those Atlanteans who were 'allowed' to leave. The Law of One also ensured that the records of knowledge and understanding were 'hidden' in the Sphinx and certain precautions were activated to make absolutely certain that these records would not be re-discovered for many thousands of years until the time was 'right' . . .

First you need to know Atlantis was split up into two different groups, those of the Law of One and the Belialians. Or the followers of Light and the followers of Darkness. From the beginning, the darkness was on the rise in Atlantis, and finally the repercussions of this came upon them. How? Transgressions against the Law of One (fixed Universal principles, “Laws” of the way it IS), and against those of the Earth’s nature (which is in harmony with the Law of One), were everywhere. Great harm was done to the Earth by the followers of darkness, natural imbalances were created by them. A pillar of the Law of One is that of “cause and effect”. Thus did these actions bring about the physical fall of Atlantis.

posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 10:55 PM

The greatest of these natural imbalances was created by drilling hugh holes in the Earth’s crust, down to the levels of molten Earth. The Belialians used the very gross physical forces of the inner Earth to generate their power. They used concentrated light energy beams (like lasers) to bore great holes in the Earth. Remnants of them can still be seen in many places, notably such as Florida, the Caribbean, and the “Blue Hole” of Belize. Creating their power plants was much like making a series of un-natural volcanoes, and it resulted in great instability and seismic disturbances. Even though they were warned of the consequences, the Belialians persisted in this un-natural activity, until it caused the Earth changes that destroyed Atlantis, and the Belialians of that time.

Before the final destruction of Atlantis, knowing the time, knowing the signs, those of the light, went to many other parts of the Earth, in order to continue their work. During the exodus from Atlantis, many followed Grand Master Thoth (pronounced ‘Toth”) to the land of Khem, now called Egypt. There he built the Great Pyramid, and other temples and places of healing, for purposes of completing their work, initiating the wise, and enlightening the ignorant. When the work was completed in Egypt they left, and went to many lands Om, Oz and remnants of Mu, now called Tibet, Europe and parts of the Americas. There was one community of Atlanteans who didn’t live on Atlantis during the great destruction. Living in total isolation from the outside world until a few decades ago, these people remained of the pure genetic line of Atlantis.

National Geographic did an article on it in the winter of ’99 and explorers from National Geographic entered the general area of the isolated community. They considered it an amazing discovery. The headline read “Shangri-la Discovered” (or something like that). Amongst other things, it described a lush sub-tropical valley amidst the Himalayas, so hidden by natural phenomenon that it never even showed up on spy satellite photos. They were also astounded by the flora and fauna. A paradise of trees, ferns and legendary animals, all hidden away from civilization, and according to them, any previous human contact. You’d expect such a discovery would be getting pretty decent media coverage, wouldn’t you? But what should have been the discovery of the century was barely getting any attention at all. In fact, the article was very hard to find and National Geographic didn’t respond to the newly discovered communities repeated inquiries.

Then National Geographic Explorers TV show aired a story about that expedition – but the story was “cut off”, so to speak, leaving it with the expedition only discovering the waterfalls nearby. Nothing was said about the “big” discovery of the lush sub-tropical valley. Why? Perhaps something was found that doesn’t “fit” and would shake up the status quo? Such a scientific revelation would never happen. It’s really one out of hundreds of examples of the suppression of archeological finds that “don’t fit” the status quo.

The archeological community doesn’t want any info out that “rocks the boat”, and this discovery falls into that category. They won’t spread the news of such a discovery amongst the scientific community, and the media won’t cover it either. But even more of an issue with this discovery, is that certain governmental forces don’t want any evidence coming out regarding who’s military forces were involved in destroying it. I can’t say who because of the further problems it would cause, but I will tell you it wasn’t Chinese. Again, the media wouldn’t touch the story even if someone brought them absolute proof of the ancient buildings, and/or evidence of who/how/why regarding the destruction.

Another very important point I would like to make, there is a book in lieu of making information available to the public from a secret record chamber buried in Egypt near the sphinx. Mainstream public revelation of such a discovery is very, very, very unlikely. It would discredit careers, and upset the theories/beliefs of many people and organizations all over the world.

The book reveals the essential contents and message of the Hall of Records in a condensed form. It basically covers the essentials – pre-history of our species, the changes that have occurred and are yet to be upon us, the nature of God and the Universe, our place in it all, and how to get free again (back to our spiritual, angelic state, and back to living in harmony and Oneness with the Universal Spirit). That last part is the most important.

These ideas were all Grand Master Thoth’s ideas, and most come from a scroll and a later addendum to it. But what is particularly interesting about it, is that it is said to be written by the same author (the being who was also grand master Thoth) but in a different lifetime. That same being was also known in over 2 dozen incarnations, the first was Adam and the last was Jesus in certain latter incarnations, some others were Joseph (the son of Jacob) and Moses to name a few.

Yes he stated the “Ark of the Covenant” was a component of the Great Pyramid, and he made it. What do we use power for? Numerous things just look around, they also needed power to their buildings, or vehicles, including the airborne terrestrial ships such as Thoth’s. They have other communities in the world today still using this power source.

There are many things today that are similar to conditions in Atlantis before the great Earth changes that destroyed it – including the political powers. The forces of darkness – the Sons of Belial, have grown very powerful, and seek to enslave the world, at any cost. Many people who are not directly Sons of Belial, are pawns – by virtue of their own selfishness they ‘unconsciously’ follow the conscious evil ones. This is no excuse however, because they chose their ‘unconsciousness’. They are but selfish cowards who have willingly participated in the evil that will bring their own destruction.

The brave people of this world open their eyes to what is happening, and refuse to be pawns. Even many of the brave ones are not aligned with the light yet, but at least they have resisted the darkness. These people can save themselves. After they suffer the horrors of what is about to befall the people of the Earth, they will have been purified enough – involuntarily as it may be – and this purification will awaken them to the Spirit within, and return them to serving Universal Will.

The coming Earth changes are not ‘bad’ things, in and of themselves. They are necessary now. Necessary for a clean up of both the Earth, and of humans.

As all of these changes come to pass, we are given the opportunity for transcension into a new world of Unselfish Love and harmony. Some will approach the sufferings of this purification with patience, understanding, and Unselfish Love. Others will react with selfishness, negativity, and resistance. Universal Law dictates that each individual, through their attitudes and resultant actions, create, and modify, their own experience. Those who Love Unselfishly, will ultimately experience the ‘heaven’ of that attitude, while those who are negative, will ultimately experience the ‘hell’ brought by that.

The saying is something like "From Age to Age I am Incarnate. To Support the Good, and oppose the evil."
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posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 10:55 PM
Interesting ancient finds from around the world

Even National Geographic admits prehistoric civilization are submerged under the sea


High level, perhaps dangerous level power, terra forming?

The past goes back along ways, Columbus was not the first here

Underground tunnels are mentioned in many supposed unrelated teachings. Such as the DSS and Hopi prophecy

Redating the sphinx-

Underground pictures. Under every layer is a deeper level, Hall of Records, Perhaps Thoths Chamber or Ship-

Megaliths submerged 2000 feet under the Atlantic ocean off of Cuba

According to the investigators, these structures seem to be remains of streets, pyramids and buildings. Most of these blocks have gigantic dimensions, reaching to five meters of height and several tons of weight.

Pyramids off the coast of Cuba


According to the investigators, these structures seem to be remains of streets, pyramids and buildings. Most of these blocks have gigantic dimensions, reaching to five meters of height and several tons of weight.

Massive underwater Megaliths

Internal Cross-

Rounded, megalithic granite-like rock

Detailed and intelligently shaped


24 miles across terra forming


More info on how the land sank into the Atlantic ocean

This is very interesting because this is evidence that the whole surface sank to the depth of 700 meters (2,297 feet, or about a half mile down).

The area has been seismically active for thousands of years. And what we find on the ocean bottom are fractures from which the magma and volcanic ash came out. From these structures we were able to delineate a configuration of the land that sank because you can see them clearly. The land that sank is very obvious from our image of the ocean bottom. And you can see bays, like harbors, and it's all at the depths of 900 and 700 meters.

Geologically, does Dr. Iturralde-Vinent and others have any idea what happened volcanically? Was it one large eruption or series of eruptions?

Series of eruptions and as he is saying, it is still active. A series of eruptions that created major tectonic movement to such a degree that land is sinking. For example, Cuba has sank and re-emerged a couple of times! But that was long ago, geologically. Now, what happened more recently geologically is that land sank that joined to Yucatan �_ islands between Yucatan and Cuba, they sank.

Belize. Massively drilled botomless holes by dark Belialian Atlanteans. To exctract molten power from deep inside the earth, which created unstable land and Atlantis eventually sank from unnatural volcanoes, drilled holes, and widespread severe environmental destruction and pollution which made the earth more unstable
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Sattelite discoveries

Informtion about Atlantean drilled holes, sinkholes caused by environmental damage in 10,500 BC, and the gravity anomolies caused by Atlantean drilling and industrial work. _local.cfm?ca...=news_local.cfm

Gravity anomaly map of the Chicxulub Crater area. Red and yellow indicate gravity highs; green and
blue indicate gravitylows. The white line indicates the coast of the Yucatan Peninsula. White dots are
sinkholes, called "cenotes." Credit: Geological Survey of Canada

Most intriguingly, researchers using sonar equipment have discovered, at a depth of about 2,200 feet (700-800 meters), a huge land plateau with clear images of what appears to be urban development partly covered by sand.

Sure looks like some big ol cosmic duck stomped on that territory south o' Cuba. Origin of accounts of THE FLOOD?

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posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 10:56 PM
Some of those of the light, retreated to Egypt and built the Great Pyramids there

Pyramids of Egypt

Chinese and Tibetan Pyramids

I remember seeing on a show something about the layout of the places where the pyramids were built on different continents, Egypt and mexico , being 1/100,000th of the earths suface, perhaps using earth meridians, no one knew for sure how they measured it

The Math of the the Egyptian God Thoth. It is similar to Chinese philosophy. Thoth was an Atlantean.

Egyptian cultivation of energy and meditation

A page with info about the Tarot-

The Fool card, appears on a journey to Shargung La-

Thoth was the top Egyptian God, but actually an Atlantean. He was Hermes, Jesus Christ, Adam in other lives. Seeing the signs of the coming destruction of Atlantis, just prior to the final destruction, he and his soul mate Atlanteans went around the world, to Egypt, Pyranees, the Yucutan, and finally Tibet. He and Atlanteans set up proper monastaries for cultivation, and helped raise all kindred spirits trapped in this plane, to at least the current human body level and could now incarnate as the human beings of today. He put the knowledge and mysteries of enlightenment into secret oracles such as the Tarot card, making it hard to understand by many people, and only the most sinscere would find the way. In this way the skills, methods, and teachings of Atlantis could be preserved until today.

Yea did the egyptian people think the humanimals to be gods, and incorporated them into their myths and legends

The teachings of Hermes -- the Hermetic tradition -- is one of the oldest spiritual traditions in the world, and while no direct evidence links the Emerald Tablet to Eastern religions, it shares uncanny similarities in concepts and terminology with Taoism, Hinduism, and Buddhism.

"Preserve them and guard them,
hide them in symbols,
so the profane will laugh and renounce.
In every land, form ye the mysteries.
Make the way hard for the seeker to tread.

Thus will the weak and the wavering be rejected.
Thus will the secrets be hidden and guarded,

held till the time when the wheel shall be turned."

"Now give I the Key to Shamballa,
the place where my Brothers live in the darkness:
Darkness but filled with Light of the Sun
ODarkness of Earth, but Light of the Spirit,
guides for ye when my day is done."

So atlantis and ancient civilisations were destroyed, but some remnants of the culture remained. The knowledge had to be kept hidden to kings and emperors while the people with the knowledge could still work in society, either teaching about spirituality, or working to improve the world in other ways. "Gypsies" had the tarot card, which start and end with the fool card, a fool for the universal will. The Kaballah in the west is also related as well as the I the east.

An Atlantean Headquarters, and primary monastery was constructed at Shargung La in Tibet. Throughout time, some of the Atlantean monks made the sacrifice to leave the monastery and teach the world, their teachings would become world religions and be branches of the CLO. Then over time, branches of the branches would appear in the human world.

Many ki practices originate from Tibetan mountains and even the Shargung La area in Tibet-

"Western logic is inadequate to explain certain phenomena that we experienced here," says Gil. "We saw rivers flowing side-by-side but in opposite directions. We would be guided back onto lost trails by Tibetan priests directing us to follow brilliant double rainbows. Local hunters would miraculously appear out of the mists to lead us to our next destination.

Gyala Peri (23,891') - This mountain has never been climbed.

Namcha Barwa (25,436') - Known to the Tibetans as the "Blazing Mountain of Celestial Metal".

Konla Karpo (22,339')

Skies clear revealing Namcha Barwa (25,436'), to the far left on the Indian continent and Gyala Peri (23,891'), to the far right on the Asian continent. Only approximately 12 miles apart, the world's deepest gorge (17,758') lies between these two great mountains. The formidable Dorje Bragsen (pron. Droksen - drok = rock) mountain (12,818'), stands guard in the middle ground protecting the entrance into this most elusive and sacred "Inner Gorge". (This is the first photograph ever taken of these geologic formations from this eastern direction.)

"Western logic is inadequate to explain certain phenomena that we experienced here," says Gil. "We saw rivers flowing side-by-side but in opposite directions. We would be guided back onto lost trails by Tibetan priests directing us to follow brilliant double rainbows. Local hunters would miraculously appear out of the mists to lead us to our next destination.

Studying possible ascent routes up the guardian mountain Dorje Bragsen (left) - Gyala Peri (23,891') - (center) stands luminous above the unrevealed "Inner Gorge".

Swallowed in the clouds trying to locate the elusive route into the hidden "Inner Gorge".

local takin hunter on trail.

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