Originally posted by badmedia
You can say it's justified to sue. But it is still just seeking revenge. You can make the argument that it's ok to poke out the eye of a person who poked another persons eye. But you are still just getting revenge. Eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.

I hope the story is fake.

Badmedia, you seem pissy today, because you're only seeing the bad. Surely these people aren't just "out for revenge" but seeking answers. I know what it's like to want answers when a loved one dies, I've been there, there is a GREAT RELIEF you get when understanding shines it's beautiful light on a tragedy. Sometimes that light needs to be guided in for questioning or the opportunity will slip away forever. The sooner they can get the answers they seek, the greater the odds of getting the whole truth and not the diluted version.

Originally posted by Oreyeon
This is a sad situation and story. But those people that let her die need to be punished in some manner or another. And I find it funny that they are being sued now, when that was their justification for letting her die in the first place. I say they are getting what they deserve. Nobody is going to sue you for saving their life. I think they did something to her and were afraid she would sue them for that if she survived.

Yes indeed I think that something else was going on. Maybe, as somebody else suggested, indeed a prank gone dramatically wrong. Anyway, even if the only crime these zombies committed was to NOT call the ambulance, they should pay pay pay and pay for it. And of course the parents are going to sue, what else can they do?? Say: O well #s happens, let's forget all about it?

As to the OP, I hope you get professional help. Witnessing somebody dying or allready dead is in itself traumatizing. And then to be the only "awake" person and having to scream for aid....

The fact is, we as the human race are everything except human.
People just stand there and do nothing, we try to justify our inability of action by citing the laws, and our fear of them.

I have been able to provide some assistance to some people in emergencies, I used to camp a lot, I had to take some courses in First aid and the like, and as the OP I have been confronted with the useless stare of the mindless drone.

Instead of helping, constantly getting in the way, expressing opinions and views that had nothing to do with the situation at hand.

Its easy to get disillusioned at human kind, but in extreme situations, if one hasn't had any sort of training its probable that the shock would just bee toomuch to handle.
We can achieve much more that what we currently have, we cannot aloow ourselves to be degraded to the mindless fearfull drone some wants us to be.

Get training, and get ready to act when the need arises.

I wouldn't want to get back to work with those people, one can understand them of course, but that does not mean one has to agree with them...
We are our worst enemy.

thanks for sharing...


On another note, what is it with people calling everything they read as "fake" or "hoax", some people just need to get out of their comfort zone more often, and look at the "real" world , not the tiny bubbles of "reality" we sometimes find ourselves immersed into...

On another note, what is it with people calling everything they read as "fake" or "hoax", some people just need to get out of their comfort zone more often, and look at the "real" world , not the tiny bubbles of "reality" we sometimes find ourselves immersed into...

I agree completely!

Unfortunately, it seems too many people don't prescribe to the old adage from good old Ben Franklin: “Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see.” Instead, it's "don't believe anything at all."

These are the kinds of people who look at just one thing and automatically draw a conclusion without trying to figure out if the information is true or not. When they should be checking other sources to draw an informed conclusion. I see this entirely too much these days.

You should be thoroughly commended for your efforts. It's good to know people like yourself exist in the world. Regarding your coworkers, I'm going to speculate that they are not evil - but they were suffering from pure "stage fright." An absolute fear, panic, anxiety took over - that completely debilitates the person. Some people can't literally even move their body the fear takes over so bad. Their "macho" response afterwards was, "Oh, I didn't help because I didn't want to be sued, oh, I didn't think she was really sick, etc.etc.etc." No, they were scared sh*tless out of their minds and simply froze. Having been a coach in the performing arts, I've seen it so many times. Logical thoughts like, "Just call 911" never even crossed their brains. Can they be blamed for that? I don't know. You obviously didn't experience it - and btw, you are probably the type that could actually perform well on stage. I hope they find the cause of her death - it's so sad to see such a young person taken so soon from this world.

I would quit my job and help the parents in the law suite. Any 5 year old can call 911. Your co-workers may have something to hide. They may have had a hand in her death like a joke gone wrong. I would have to see justice done. Watch your back if you stay there as you may be the next one laying on the floor dieing. If I was a judge I would see that every one there made to pay for not calling 911.

About 12 years ago my brother was shopping at a mall in Seattle, when he happened to see an elderly gentleman laying on the floor in front of a food court, and an elderly woman crying and shaking him.

Shoppers were just walking by casually, looking down and continuing on as if they saw nothing. My brother went into panic mode and ran over to the couple, and without knowing how to do CPR, he tried anyway, based on what he saw on TV. He continued giving mouth to mouth and chest compressions, the best way he knew how.

During this time, many people walked by and no one stopped. No one. On lookers kept their distance clear across as far away as they could.

The ambulance came, and they were able to save the gentleman. Days later, the elderly woman called my brother up to thank him and wanted to give him something as a reward for helping her. But he turned it down.

He was shocked of course, to see this man near death, and not know how to help, but he used to talk more about how sick he felt in his stomach about all of those people who just walked by not offering anything.

I just do not understand.

I'm very sorry for what you went through with our co-worker. I cannot imagine how frightened you were, and I commend you for being the only one willing to throw out the idea of being sued, just to perform a basic human act of saving another's life.

Originally posted by mmariebored
Badmedia, you seem pissy today, because you're only seeing the bad. Surely these people aren't just "out for revenge" but seeking answers. I know what it's like to want answers when a loved one dies, I've been there, there is a GREAT RELIEF you get when understanding shines it's beautiful light on a tragedy. Sometimes that light needs to be guided in for questioning or the opportunity will slip away forever. The sooner they can get the answers they seek, the greater the odds of getting the whole truth and not the diluted version.

Wasn't meaning to be pissy, we can disagree without hating each other. Seeking answers is fine, I have no problem with that. But you don't need to sue for it. How is it not an act of revenge? If you sue, you are wanting these people to suffer through loss of money for what happened. And that is revenge.

I realize it's not a popular opinion, and that people feel it is justified because of what happened. But I have to call it as I see it, it's eye for an eye. You poked my eye, so I am justified in poking your eye or punishment of equal "value".



[edit on 19-10-2008 by badmedia]