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Originally posted by mystiq
And this is still normal behavior for many girls at her age to do, and still none of your business and not a legal issue, but a moralistic one. Back in the 70s and 80s half the kids weren't virgins by 15 or 16. While a parent should bust this behavior and assign consequences, I would never wish to return to an era of women being treated like pristine property or damaged goods. And police states that try to use laws that are in place to prevent an adult from exploiting a child have are contrary to the rights and dignity of all people, families, parents, and children, and to the natural and normal right teenagers have to be explorative and to learn from their mistakes. Unfortunately, this girl is in foster care, but if I was her parent, I'd be suing the entire judicial system, for exploiting her further in the process.
Originally posted by schism85
reply to post by logician magician
If the pornography was sent to a kid, then he shouldn't be held legally responsible for anything. He was not searching for child porn, and he did not publish anything (as far as I know).
Grown man who intercepts child porn, is a pedophile obviously searching for child porn, and should be treated like one.
GIANT difference.
Originally posted by logician magician
I love how you guys beat around the bush of ideals when dealing with this subject.
You want to make it legal for 12 year olds to distribute pornography, vaginal penetration, oral sex, anal sex, and bukakke to other 12 year olds?
If not, then what exactly, do you propose?
Originally posted by logician magician
Originally posted by schism85
reply to post by logician magician
If the pornography was sent to a kid, then he shouldn't be held legally responsible for anything. He was not searching for child porn, and he did not publish anything (as far as I know).
Grown man who intercepts child porn, is a pedophile obviously searching for child porn, and should be treated like one.
GIANT difference.
Do you not thinking that children are capable of creating child pornography?
Do you think it's okay for an 11 year old to send vaginal penetration pictures to anyone, as long as they are under 18?
Originally posted by mystiq
Distributing porn is an adult activity, its not even on the same table as talking about a teenager send nudie shots to her boyfriend or friends. This is the high tech version of a rather mixed up girl who used to sit around with groups of guys and flash them. She was eventually dealt with, discreetly by both the manager of the townhouse and her parents.
And her behavior changed. This is not the same thing. Quit comparing apples and oranges because they really are two different fruits.
Originally posted by schism85
Iam not dealing in hypotheticals with you freind. Yes I think its morally wrong. Do I think they should lock up an 11 yr old, and label he/she as a sex offender, and a felon because of it, and potentially ruin her/his professional career, absolutley not. But this is not whats happening here so it has no relevance.
Originally posted by whatukno
I still don't see why some members on this board feel that child porn is ok
and the fact that this young lady sent explicit underage material to another minor is acceptable.
Originally posted by whatukno
The reason this girl is in trouble is because of the sexual nature of the photographs that she has sent. The intent of why she sent them, and the recipients of the photographs.
This is why she is in trouble. This is what she is being punished for.
I still don't see why some members on this board feel that child porn is ok and the fact that this young lady sent explicit underage material to another minor is acceptable.
Originally posted by whatukno
She is underage which makes what she did a felony.
This is why they are looking to make her a sex offender. If an adult took the photographs of her for the same purpose they would be charged as a sex offender.
Why shouldn't she?
Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
OK, let me be more specific. She should get charged so she learns her lesson, but I still feel that she should not be labeled a 'sex offender'. She should be labeled 'stupid', which most teenagers are. Sex offender laws are on the books to protect children from adults. There were no adults involved in this case. The line has to be drawn somewhere, I think 18 years old should be that line. I also feel that her parent(s) should also be in legal trouble for not teaching her better! But if we don't draw the line somewhere, like a previous poster said, next we will be charging and labeling a 15 year old for spanking his monkey as a 'sex offender' because he was sexually abusing a minor, himself. Let's use some common sense here!