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15 Year Old Girl Charged as Sex Offender

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posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 06:29 AM
reply to post by Dock6

Scientist has a great point. You contradict yourself. In the last thread you praised and called for killing of pedophiles, regardless of law, as if your a defender of children. So you were willing see the law broken.

Here in this thread you defend the law for calling her a pedophile, but don't want to kill this pedophile.

While you claim to be a defender of children here you do quite the opposite and not only do you praise the rule of law, you label the minor (which you call a child) a prostitute not worthy of saving.

posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 06:32 AM
What do you expect? I have a few younger cousins who started learning about drugs, sex, and alcohol all before reaching 10. I didn't know what marijuana was until I was 17! It's all these video games, music videos, TV channels that are saying it is alright to do this stuff. I am 22 years old, I love games and music but enough is enough!

Shows like the Hills(which is watched by too many younger girls) show them it is alright to start liking boys at a young age. The generations are learning everything all too fast. Pretty soon schools will start teaching how to put condoms on and how to insert thing into thing.

posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 06:51 AM
Well call me a buff old traditionalist but when I was growing up during the days of no mobile phones between the ages of 12 - 15 I regularly engaged in games of 'spin the bottle' and 'strip jack naked' where the whole point of the exercise was to get the female members kit off and ogle at them! Yes it involved the males getting unclothed too which was embarrassing in front of your mates - but hey it was worth it.
It was also very, very normal and is part of growing up and discovering the human form. I cannot believe that anyone on this forum who did not suffer from a sheltered upbringing did not engage in that type of interaction with the opposite sex as a group entertainment game as a teenager.

What this girl did is the millennium way of doing it - they have webcams now - the internet for gods sakes. Give her a break - she's a bloody kid! World has gone so politically correct. Only the other day I was in the bath with my 20 month old son and my wife commented how cute we looked and wanted to take a picture – then she paused and said no – people may think you’re a pervert!

Mad world – totally mad. Paedophiles have always been around. It’s just the internet and the communications revolution that has brought the problem to the attention of the world yet because of this we are robbing both parents and children of a normal loving upbringing by wrapping them in multiple layers of governmental, political and media created bubble wrap.

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posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 07:06 AM
If someone wants to take pics of themselves wtf gives the GOV the right to call that person a producer of child porn when the child is the person who took the photos?

So stupid..

Shows how pathetic we have succumbed to this bs in our society.

S'pose we should set up cameras to follow kids around.. God only knows some of the acts I did with girls when I was 15 would have me listed as well..

posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 09:03 AM
The age of consent is 16 in Ohio, so this is not a great deal different than a 17 year old doing this in California. The truth is, if a guy had been doing this, there's not even be question as to whether he'd be put on the sex offender list, so given the state of the offense and the age of the minors, yeah, she might as well be charged, just to make an example of her.

I think the whole thing is silly myself that we now accept 1 to 1 1/2 year dips into the age of consent / adulthood laws to continuously charge minors with crimes as adults, but I guess its a sign of the times.

I suppose the fact that most of the kids in that school have phones with internet capability with instant access to the most hardcore of X-Rated Movies is otherwise irrelevant here, since the boobs were foisted upon them against their will.

posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 09:38 AM

Originally posted by eldard
Things like this are the reason why I want America to plunge into the furthest depths of the crapper and never go back up again.

Total agreement. Our country has become a politically correct nightmare. We go around raping other countries our Government bails out the crooks on wall street while leaving the middle class to go belly up and yet charge a 15 year old with sex offender status for doing what the media has taught her.

This country needs to go down...this belief is a very recent one of mine but these past few months have made me think this way.

posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 09:39 AM
I've seen that many who posted a reply said that they were unsure of what to make of this. It's not clear in front of everyone's faces?

Let's say you were an innocent, if not misguided teenage girl. You do some things that might warrant a summer's worth of in-house, or get your phone confiscated by mom and dad, and the next thing you know you are facing trial for a felony for which there was no victim.

I'll restate that, there was no victim. If the misguided girl photographed even though the act in itself was a felony, there was no victim. The judicial system is a joke, leave this poor teenager alone and ground her to her bedroom.

posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 10:03 AM
A Kid can get married at age 16 with parents consent, Have sex, produce a Baby, but if they Take picture of themselves in a decadent manner. They will be convicted as a sex offender.

Two kids have a child together age 17, Both want to get married and support the Kid. And the Mother presses charges at the boy father. He goes to jail as a sexual offender. Now if they were married with the parents consent, and the Mother of the Daughter revokes her consent. The boy father will go to jail as a sexual offender.

If a kid cops a "feel" with his girlfriend. And Then one of the parents press charges. The kid "boy"\"girl" will be charged as a sexual offender.

The list goes on, and on.

It used to be "Shot Gun wedding", Now its "Sexual offender" or Abortion.

This case is a exp of attempting to scare teenagers from taking nudie pictures of themselves and posting on the internet. But if your a celebrity like hanna montana, then its ok, I guess?

posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 10:15 AM
reply to post by Dock6

Being in my 30s, I grew up in the 70s/80s....I grew up in a middle/upper class area.

I can tell you that back then girls were JUST as aware of their body and the attention they could get from boys, back then as they are now. However, now, we have technology that has given them a platform: phones, myspace, etc.

I am a girl. I know exactly what im talking about in regards to other girls around that age. Grant it, I was a bit shy, especially around boys. But I knew exactly how to get attention if I wanted to.

Again, I still stand by my original thoughts. I think what she did was in fact pretty normal for a 15yr old girl - especially a girl being raised in a foster home, which means she has had troubles at home. On top of that we have (as a PP previously stated) the Paris Hiltons, Brittney Spears and Teen Vogues of our time to thank for girls wanting to show themselves off a little more. Good parenting would nip all that in the butt real quick.

SHE is not a child pornographer. She took pictures of HERSELF and gave them to friends for attention. Huge difference then some adult man forcing her to pose naked while he violates her and shares this with the world of other perverts. Surely anyone can see the difference???

posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 10:22 AM
I agree with this punnishment.

If an adult did it, they would be charged with this crime, just because it was the girl that did it to herself does not mean that naked pictures of a 15 year old girl wern't created. The photos are the problem here. She willingly and with forthought commited a crime and therefore should be punnished to the fullest extent of the law in this case.

This will learn her to not be a little whore.

posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 11:00 AM
reply to post by Lucid Lunacy

The iphone does not have picture messaging capabilities.

No one liner, because I will point out the fact that there may be 3rd party applications that allow the iphone to send an mms, but out of the box, the iphone has no mms capabilities.

posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 11:02 AM

Originally posted by AHostileMe
reply to post by Lucid Lunacy

The iphone does not have picture messaging capabilities.

No one liner, because I will point out the fact that there may be 3rd party applications that allow the iphone to send an mms, but out of the box, the iphone has no mms capabilities.

Im sure that LL was meaning a cell phone in general. I think some people use the term "Iphone" as a generic term for "cell phone". Just like some people call ALL MP3 players "Ipods"...when that clearly isnt so.

posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 11:06 AM
Oh Jesus Christ. Does the political correctness ever stop?

You people have been so brainwashed by this crack-down on sexual predators. You've been made to believe it's a bigger problem than it is, and your opinions have been manipulated to the point that you're outraged at every little instance, even if no child was harmed or violated.

Is that outrage real? I can sit here and say I'm outraged at this, but I would be lying. Does that make me a sexual predator too?

The legal system has been so abused it's embarrassing. A law should be put in to prevent criminal intent, and punish criminal activity.

If you can point out where taking a picture of yourself naked has criminal intent or is criminal activity, I'll gladly admit you're right and we can proceed with hanging her and burning her body for the evil sins she has committed.

Don't quote the actual law and it's broad, paint everyone with one brush legal talk. Morally, point out where a criminal act was committed.

posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 11:20 AM

Originally posted by greeneyedleo
SHE is not a child pornographer. She took pictures of HERSELF and gave them to friends for attention.

Weird isn't it? She's probably only in trouble due to the transmission of the images. I don't see how it would be illegal to have a photo of yourself naked.
Take her phone away. That would be greater punishment than any sex offender list in her mind. Let her have a phone back in a year, but get one without a camera.

posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 11:21 AM
reply to post by NovusOrdoMundi

Ok ill tell you where the crime was committed, the crime is a picture was taken of a minor in an obviously sexually explicit manner and this child pornography was sent to others for the expressed intent of those others to become sexually aroused by that child pornography.

Does it matter who took the picture? Not really, the fact remains that a sexually explicit picture of a minor was taken and sent. Child pornography was in fact distributed.

Just because it was the person taking the sexually explicit photograph of herself does not diminish the content of the photograph. Nor does it excuse the content of the photograph.

posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 11:21 AM
This is the dumbest thing I have ever heard of. This kid is 15. She took the photos. She sent them to other minors. Who cares? Big flipping deal.

Go after the damned perverts hurting little babies. Hell, there is a damned RSO 4 miles from my house that raped 4 girls under 12! He lives in a decent home, drives a new car, and lives like a normal person. Yet this kid acts like a kid and gets 10 years.

Oh for Pete's sake, doesn't anyone remember the Simpsons episodes where Bart took photos of his butt? Kids are going to do stupid stuff.

God, it is so obvious this nation was founded by a bunch of uptight Puritans. They have no problem forgiving some baby rapist priest, but that 15 yo, "She needs to learn a lesson!"

Seig Heil.

posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 11:27 AM
This is just stupid.
If the girl wants to take pictures of herself and send them to whoever she wants that should be her business.

Now having said that I would hate to have recieved a photo from some teenager accidentaly and then be classed as a pervert and get slammed by legal action for recieving a call as a wrong number.

posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 11:29 AM
reply to post by SantaClaus

Agree with the charges? Are you nuts? This girl if will be on the sex offenders register! Have you any idea what that will do to her future? She will be severly limited in any job she wants and the very stigma of being on that register means she'll be thought of as a paedophile by most people.

She was a stupid girl, this should have been handled with parents and maybe a talking ot by the police about web safety. It should not have been brought this far and i just feel utterly sorry for the girl. We all do stupid things when we're kids. The difference is that in our modern age it's more easy to get caught.

posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 11:31 AM
reply to post by SantaClaus

No word on what compensation she (as the victim of the crime) will be able to get from herself (as the perp).

This statement alone should tell people how stupid these charges really are.

I mean why ruin a fifteen year olds girls life for the next decade?? A slap on the wrist maybe, some counselling maybe, make her a registered sex offender, completely ludacrious. Put her picture up to the 40 yr old con molesting children. Yeah, really appropriate. Some people are just plain stupid.

posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 11:33 AM
whatever happened to the 'spirit of the law'?

child pornography laws are SUPPOSED to PROTECT children, not SCREW UP THEIR ENTIRE LIFE!!!!

the laws are there to prevent adults from taking advantage of children.

she is legally not an adult, and therefore should not be tried as one. i agree with treating violent criminals as adults, but this is BS. she took advantage of herself?

people need to see the root of the problem, and stop punishing the symptoms. the root of the problem is that the media and the fashion industry have turned children into sex fiends. the sexuality of today's youth is off the scale, and it's not because of predators(although, i'm sure they are happy about it). it is because 12 year old girls walk around with "sexy mama" written across their butt, and their ass cracks are hanging out everywhere. it's because of the glorification of beauty over the glorification of honour. it's because everywhere you look on teevee and magazines you are bombarded with sex. it's because television censors stopped censoring explicit language and images.

i wonder what the youngest age of a recipient of this image is? in my opnion, it represents a double standard to treat the child like an adult for persecution purposes, while treating the recipients as children. i assume all the recipients were the same age, as that is how kids rol(ie. in 'grades').
i also wonder how 'pornographic' the pictures were? was it simple nudity? or something more graphic and 'adult'?
and, to the person saying she has no self esteem, no, that is YOUR value judgement. i would say she has a huge ego. you just don't understand what it's like to be raised in the media nightmare that today's children are exposed to, imo.

this is no longer a 'christian' society. i wouldn't be able to hear people talk about blowjobs and prison rape on primetime teevee if it were.

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