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15 Year Old Girl Charged as Sex Offender

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posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 02:43 PM
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posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 02:48 PM
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Ah yes, we have another case of the "one-size-fits-all" brains of the law enforcement agencies enforcing their "once-size-fits-all" laws.
No thinking needed, just follow the letter of the law.


Likely this girl is one of the many that have been misled into a "free sex' outlook on life by our degenerate entertainment industry. She needs some serious reeducation.

Why does she need a cell phone and why one with a camera?
And just who is paying the bill?



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 03:23 PM
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posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 03:26 PM
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Originally posted by Harlequin
it also seems she had previous warnings over sending nude photos

and yet she just carried on sending them


All I was saying was that she didn't send nude photos of herself on separate occasions i.e she doesn't have separate offenses. She took more then one photo during the same period of time i.e same offense.

I was just trying to show you the articles were saying that.

I am sorry if I came off wrong with my writing style, I was just trying to be precise so you would see what I was thinking.



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 03:38 PM
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Why is this any business of the school?

Maybe this is the real reason why our schools are so bad at educating our children. They are too busy dictating morals where they should have no say, and not concentrating on teaching math and science.

Our schools need to get out of the morality business, and back into the teaching math, science, and history business.

Searching peoples phones to make sure they aren't cheating on tests is one thing, but searching peoples phones for naked pictures of teenage girls is another.

Why are high school administrators looking at pictures on kids phones?



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 04:16 PM
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i would disagree - she was pulled out and urgently suggested that she listened to what was said ; which says to me the school had suspicions she was allready doing something along these lines - and a month later she got `busted`

but there is little information to go on , just the vague words



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 04:24 PM
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you must be true american

yeah, should be so brave from your point of view... but, unfortunately you are alone here with your good feeling about the law and police state



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 04:30 PM
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LOL

what has that got to do with what i said?



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 04:42 PM
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Since she is a minor...well I'm not sure how this works in the US...but I know in Canada a minor cannot have a cell phone contract under their name. Cell phones are subject to credit check. No credit, no phone (unless it is pay as you go).

So my question is, IF the phone contract is under the name of the gaurdians, would they not be held responsible?



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 04:51 PM
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Well I understand what you are saying. That's a legitimate observation.

Still, based on what the article does say, there is only one offense.



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 04:54 PM
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Originally posted by poet1b
Why are high school administrators looking at pictures on kids phones?
?


Yeah I was wondering that as well.

Also, using some of the trains of thought in this thread, wouldn't this adult (the one that took the phone and checked out the pics) be looking at child porn too?

Heh.

It's all very ridiculous to me too.



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 05:22 PM
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it is my opinion the school knew something was `up` and thats why the lesson was directed to her after the lecture the month before ; but the article does mention photographs - meaning more than 1; but they threw the book at her when she got caught

[edit on 19/10/08 by Harlequin]



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 05:31 PM
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Originally posted by Harlequin

it is my opinion the school knew something was `up` and thats why the lesson was directed to her after the lecture the month before ;


Even though the same speech was given to many schools? I personally got the impression the speaker was jumping from school to school.

*Edit to add: plus we don't know what the speech was do we? It could have covered a broad spectrum of topics related to teen sex, etc etc. Not necessarily specific to taking nude photos with tech or whatever.


but the article does mention photographs - meaning more than 1; but they threw the book at her when she got caught



Well it's all speculation if she took all the photographs during the same period of time or not. No evidence one way or another. She is being tried on one offense (with a charge for each image it seems).

It's just as likely she took more then one photo during the same offense.

[edit on 19-10-2008 by Lucid Lunacy]



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 07:42 PM
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Originally posted by Dock6

Modesty is normal. It's normal within a society that places a premium on women's 'goodness', 'decency', etc.

The Miss All American Queen does not have nude photographs of herself in her background. Particularly not those she took herself and released to the world.

I feel sorry for the girl. Not re: the penalty, but because she craves attention, craves approval and was prepared to make a joke of herself in order to gain these .. from strangers, in the main.



Spoken like the true facist that you are mein fuhrer.

This is NOT the mindset of women who go into prostitution *snip* Nor did she send the pictures to strangers.

Modesty is NOT natural. It is something that society teaches. If modesty was natural, then all those tribes living in the Amazon and other tropical places would be fully clothed. They are not.

Nor are we slaves to the law. It is apparrent that the lawmakers who wrote this law did not foresee this. The law needs to address cases of rambunctious teens.

In fact this law had been modified all ready. By the original wording of the law, if you sent a picture of your naked baby to your parents, you would have been guilty of possessing and disseminating child pornography. You would have been arrested and labelled a sex offender and would have to register with the sheriff for at least 10 years.

Child pornography entails the concept of exploitation and vitimization. She did neither. She was playing around. There was no intent to victimize or exploit.

If she wasn't a foster childd I would think this would havce been handled differently.

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[edit on 10/19/2008 by maria_stardust]



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 08:24 PM
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Originally posted by poet1b
Why is this any business of the school?

Maybe this is the real reason why our schools are so bad at educating our children. They are too busy dictating morals where they should have no say, and not concentrating on teaching math and science.

Our schools need to get out of the morality business, and back into the teaching math, science, and history business.

Searching peoples phones to make sure they aren't cheating on tests is one thing, but searching peoples phones for naked pictures of teenage girls is another.

Why are high school administrators looking at pictures on kids phones?


Word got around that she did it, so someone checked. If she was using the phone in school the school has the right to check her phone out. Those who received the pics are going to get charged, too. You're correct about getting back to the basics of education, though. For the past 35 years the schools have become a source of social architecture; they're taught that there is no morality other than your own (moral relativity). That's the same type of thing that caused Columbine.



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 08:55 PM
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Just a friendly reminder that courtesy is mandatory. Let's keep it civil.



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 10:08 PM
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Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
She should be subject to strict peanalties for possession of this disgraceful material. I think they are being lax in her peanalty. Young people should go to church and repent. laws should require a licence to use such equipment now


Apparently the Trolls have come out. It is ashame trolls can not spell.



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 10:36 PM
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I clearly misread it as selling. And maybe I am underestimating the severity of being registered as a sex offender, because I'm not familiar with the law. Also, you were correct in pointing out the flaw in my argument; I did not intend to portray this act as evil, but incorrectly did so anyway with the example of child prostitution.

I have liberal friends who were quite shocked when I told them this story from a hypothetical view, and they said they would ground their daughter for two months and rescind their cell phone privilege during that time. I consider that a fair punishment. It will teach them responsible use of the phone camera in the future, and will teach them the notion of value.



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 11:13 PM
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By playing devil's advocate, you have changed the argument completely. In your scenario, she would be guilty of distributing pornography to minors, and not of possessing or transmitting child porn.



posted on Oct, 20 2008 @ 03:32 AM
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I think we are watching American Mullah Islamic law invasion tactics in the guise of protecting, but really most people would be happy if beautiful girls had no self esteem about their bodies and felt that they needed to cover themselves from head to toe with islamic garb.

I'm repulsed by a society that would look at anything naked as something to be punished or hated or feared, what that says means we are barbarians full of sexual hatred and physical armouring. We are disgusted by our own bodies and therefore project that disgust out into the world upon children so they in effect can be punished for their bodies.

Maybe they will draw and quarter her in public too, since she obviously doesn't own her own body, eventhough we think she does by repressing the sexual needs or urges to cover the body with clothes. Are nudists now officially also sex criminals too? This reminds me of John Ashcroft and his boob statue and his secret psychological trauma and projection of his own fears onto the rest of us. What a waste of life to call this girl a "sex criminal" so she has to wear that around her shoulder for the rest of her life, and also the mental illness badge that resembles a neo-star of david.

If the money system fascism didn't clue any of you into what has happened then this should, we are being repressed by prudes and fascists, they seek to control our lives through financial inflation and to force everyone into a environment in which they have created laws to make everyone criminals, there appears nothing natural about the socially constructed system that has been built to oppress people sexually, this has more to do with one child policies and contraception than self confidence, heaven forbid the young uneducated and poor multiply, what will the ruling elite do if they have sex? How will we control them with our brainwashing if they don't go to our schools and instead reproduce and over run us? If they have sexually satisfied lives how will we condition them to accept the NWO? How can we condition them to follow leaders if they can't be orgasmically controlled through fear and intimidation?

Hitler would have cheered these law officials on, in fact he would have publically praised them, why? Because he used the physical body and energy of his speeches to seduce people to follow him and when they followed there own instincts he imprisioned them and eventually pointed guns at those he couldn't repress and killed them. The political repression we see everyday stems from our sexual repression as a society and we have allowed fakers in the media and government to use the fear based fight or flight response system to manipulated us against our natural loving interests, it disgusts me whem someone thinks of a child as a object but I'm not the least bit disgusted when a person reaches an age in which they feel sexually alive, only to then be roped into the NWO by making them a criminal for their body? These people are insane, they will criminalize everything if they get their way, this looks more like eugenics to me, not sexual perversion, she'll proabably be forced to take medications too, another disabled youth before they even reach 18. What society wants to do to her seems worse than what she has done to herself or anyone else, the crime becomes the punishment, as often can be the case in the middle east, but now here in our backyard....so when do beheadings begin and since were all broke when do we get the suicide channel, so we can tune in every week to see who offs themselves?



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