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The Four Angels

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posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 10:25 PM
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Ok, this is a thread to try and identify the four angels bound in the river Euphrates, please don't flame this thread or make retarded spam and derailment comments, if you don't believe in it, just stay out, no need to try and start a fight or drive a thread into the ground just cause you don't believe in what it's about.

This is for serious research only, so mods, please monitor this thread closely.

Who are the four angels bound in the river Euphrates?
Where is the river?

Verses:


Revelation 9:14-15 (King James Version)
14Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.
15And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.


I can't find it right now, but I remember in the Book of Enoch there being some angels bound (in the river Euphrates?) for 70 generations until there appointed time of judgment, I was thinking maybe these were the same as what are described in revelation.

Here are the chieftain angels names:
Sêmîazâz (their leader, he also taught enchantments, and medicines/narcotics)
Arâkîba
Râmêêl
Kôkabîêl (he taught astronomy)
Tâmîêl
Râmîêl
Dânêl
Êzêqêêl (he taught meteorology)
Barâqîjâl (he taught Astrology)
Asâêl (taught man how to create weapons, armor, metalurgy, jewelry and cosmetics.
Armârôs (he taught the resolving of enchantments)
Batârêl
Anânêl
Zaqîêl
Samsâpêêl
Satarêl
Tûrêl
Jômjâêl
Sariêl

That's about the extent to my knowledge.

-Lahara




posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 12:00 AM
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They are demons. Fallen angels. Most likely angels that love to slaughter men, most likely they have been "bound" so that they haven't been able to go on a murder spree yet in history.

Much like Matt Damon and Ben Affleck's characters in the movie "Dogma".



posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 08:04 AM
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Actually, if you read the book of Enoch, it says that demons are the spirits of dead Nephilym, since they were not human or angel, they were an abomination and had no resurectable body, so there spirits were cursed to roam the earth, the only enjoyment they have is to torment man, they do answer to satan (Sêmîazâz) though seeing how they are his children.

Read Psalm 82, you will see that the fallen angels (at least the chieftans) were cursed to become mortal like man.

The thing is, is that we are indoctrinated that demons are these evil little spirits that wisper things in your ear, that is about at true as satan being a red midget with a black bear, little horns and pointy tail and pitchfork lol.

Also, I say that the Book of Enoch, at least most of it, is true, Yeshua quoted it and Beleived at least parts of it. You can read some of that in II Peter.

-Lahara



posted on Oct, 18 2008 @ 02:20 PM
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bound

this means in possession of,


the fallen angels in possession of the Euphrates.


And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.

this is a prophetic time frame so this means, using a year for a day and using either solar or lunar days = 391 or 396 years.

The Euphrates marks the area this actions tarts from.

From 962ad the Ghaznevids of Afghanistan were the first Dynasty from Turkey to exercising power with the Arab states.

In 1055ad, Tughril Beg, a Seljurk Turk and Caliph of Baghdad, left the citty and crossed the Euphrates. he attacked and defeated the Christian Byzantian power at Manzikert on 1071. Armenia, Jerusalem and Asia Minor also fell to the Turks.

In 1095 a crusade against the Turks was called for.


The turks lay siege to Constantinople for years and using artillery and gunpowder (the fire and brimstone in the vision)

The Greek third of the western empire also fell with the defeat of Constantinople.

The vision of the Horseman with breastplates and the fire (red) smoke (blue) and brimstone (yellow) represents the new style of military assault that the turks exacted on Constantinople.

The horses tail was the standard that the Turkish cavalry used as their standard.

January 18 1057 ( when Caliph of Baghdad crossed the Euphrates) to May 29 1453 is a period of 396 years and 130 days which is very close to the solar year,day,month, day and hour given in the vision.

the 391 figure mentioned earlier?

add this to 1453ad we get to 1844ad. This is the year that the European powers forced Turkey to cease executions for apostasy which means abandonment of a fundamental principle of Mohammed/Islam

David



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