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Whaa??? McCain calls JFK assasination 'intervention'

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posted on Oct, 18 2008 @ 09:56 AM
I had a whole different take on this.

McCain pointed out that Obama, in not agreeing to the debates McCain first proposed, was a Bad Boy, and when Kennedy was a Bad Boy, he was assassinated.

I believe the use of "intervention" was quite clever. Its meaning could never be proved one way or the other, but it conveyed the message to Obama, just as Hillary managed to do when she brought up JFK's assassination, that there are people with the power to have him killed to.

I expect McCain thought Obama would be overtaken by fear, and be unable to debate after that.
However Obama's body language says to me that he already knows he may be shot, has accepted the fact, and will go ahead and be a martyr if that's the best he can do for America.

He has a courage the so-called "war hero" could never understand.

posted on Oct, 18 2008 @ 10:08 AM
reply to post by spacedoubt

No disrespect to you, spacedoubt, but it doesn't make a differece whether McCain said, "or", "of", "err", or paused -- because he was simply talking about the assassination of John F. Kennedy intervening the debates between Kennedy and Barry Goldwater.

Folks need to take the time to listen and understand things within the context that they are said.

It is frustrating to no end to say something or write something clearly, only to have someone in the audience take a word, phrase, or sentence out of context and apply a different meaning to it. And this happens a lot here at ATS. And folks who mean well are guilty of taking things out of context just as often as trolls.

Folks at ATS, those who wish to deny ignorance, should exercise more care when interpreting material. Because, if they do, it would decrease the openings for attacks by trolls. Most importantly, it would increase understanding, learning, and the value of topics and opinions, and ATS as a whole.

So -- how do we know what John McCain was thinking when he said that four letter word, "intervention", the other night? This past summer, on June 4, 2008, John McCain invited Barack Obama to a series of townhall-style debates. The letter reads:

Dear Senator Obama:

In 1963, Senator Barry Goldwater and President John F. Kennedy agreed to make presidential campaign history by flying together from town to town and debating each other face-to-face on the same stage. In Goldwater's words, those debates "would have done the country a lot of good." Unfortunately, with President Kennedy's untimely death, Americans lost the rare opportunity of witnessing candidates for the highest office in the land discuss civilly and extensively the great issues at stake in the election. What a welcome change it would be were presidential candidates in our time to treat each other and the people they seek to lead with respect and courtesy as they discussed the great issues of the day, without the empty sound bites and media-filtered exchanges that dominate our elections. It is in the spirit of President Kennedy's and Senator Goldwater's agreement, in the spirit of the politics of change, and to do our country good, that I invite you to join me in participating in town hall meetings across the country to discuss the most important issues facing Americans. I also suggest we fly together to the first town hall meeting as a symbolically important act embracing the politics of civility.

I propose these town hall meetings be as free from the regimented trappings, rules and spectacle of formal debates as possible, and that we pledge to the American people we will not allow the idea to die on the negotiation table as our campaigns work out the details. I suggest we agree to participate in at least ten town halls once a week with the first on June 11 or 12 in New York City at Federal Hall until the week before the Democratic Convention begins at locations to be determined by our campaigns. Federal Hall is particularly fitting as it was the place where George Washington took the oath of office as our first President and the birthplace of American government hosting the first Congress, Supreme Court and Executive Branch offices. These town halls should be attended by an audience of between two to four hundred selected by an independent polling agency, could be sixty to ninety minutes in length, have very limited moderation by an independ ent local moderator, take blind questions from the audience selected by the moderator and allow for equally proportional time for answers by each of us. All of these are suggestions that can be finalized by our campaigns. What is important is that we commit to participate in these history making meetings to join in the higher level of discourse that Americans clearly would prefer.

To show our good faith, we should both commit to the first town hall I have suggested. In the mean time, we can work out dates for future town hall meetings.

I look forward to your favorable reply and to the opportunity to work with you to give Americans a better opportunity to understand our differences, our agreements and the leadership we offer them.


John McCain
[Emphasis mine.]

Now be good ATSers and get back to fighting and denying ignorance, will you?

[edit on 18-10-2008 by Areal51]

posted on Oct, 22 2008 @ 04:11 AM
Look, IMHO JFK was a scumbag. But he did not deserve to be killed by Hoover or Oswald, or whatever. His entire family was scum. The only decent one was his son, who oddly enough was like a hero to me. Johnson was as nuts as Nixon, and JFK well, whatever. I think we focus too much on that day in Dallas and not enough on the Bay of Pigs and the CMC. He got in with the help of the mob and the socialist unions. That is the only way he beat Nixon......Thanks to his policy on Russia we had 30 more years of Cold War, and Vietnam.

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