You know, I'm from Canada... and I find it somewhat disturbing that everyone thinks that the United States is somehow the most evil place on earth, .. Canada is sooo compliant with it's craptacular slavery that we just voted in the same monster (Harper), whoa I'm having deja vue didn't the Americans elect Bush twice? ....

anyway, about this documentary; I am about to watch it. I'll report back on that later.

But I thought that it should be known, that I believe the real conspiracies lay within Canada, didn't the States try and fight us at one point? .. sure it was a long time ago, and I imagine I "don't know the story" but we already have "gun control" and such horrible things that the Americans would get really suspicious whereas the Canadians just go..... "Eh?" ... Ugh..

Here in Canada, they are called First Nations people, or Anishnaabe.
"Nish" for short.
There is a flip side to the coin.
While there are some stuck on reserves that live in poverty, there are many that live the high life.
I live in a city with many natives, and a reserve on the border.
This is what I see.
Natives that come off the reserve, to go to college or university, completely government paid for, as well as housing and living expenses, paid for.
They come in new vehicles, buy new furniture, and dress in the latest fashions.
Their children have all the most expensive toys.
They walk into any store, and pay no tax on anything.
They stay here till their courses are done, then go back to the reserve either well educated enough for a good job, or back to the home built for them by the band council, no charge, with monies earned from the Native run Casino just south of me.
The reserve on the edge of town, gets all the business from selling cigarettes cheaper than anywhere else.
Where they mistreated years ago?
Yes..I believe so.
Now...not at all.
As for religion, I have seen very few keep up with the "OLD WAYS" unless there is a special occasion or a POW WOW.

As for the land claims, they can't even decide amongst themselves who owns what land. Well over 110% of the land is either in dispute or has been in dispute over the years.

They've been fighting over this land for centuries amongst themselves.

Originally posted by AccessDenied
Where they mistreated years ago?
Yes..I believe so.
Now...not at all.
As for religion, I have seen very few keep up with the "OLD WAYS" unless there is a special occasion or a POW WOW.

AD You make some fair enough points but the documentary is not about their religion-it is about the brutal,sadistic,bigotted treatment they received from another one.
The film is well worth a watch although it is quite sickening to think that this was government sponsered project and culpability for these crimes has never been addressed.

Originally posted by karl 12

Originally posted by AccessDenied
Where they mistreated years ago?
Yes..I believe so.
Now...not at all.
As for religion, I have seen very few keep up with the "OLD WAYS" unless there is a special occasion or a POW WOW.

AD You make some fair enough points but the documentary is not about their religion-it is about the brutal,sadistic,bigotted treatment they received from another one.
The film is well worth a watch although it is quite sickening to think that this was government sponsered project and culpability for these crimes has never been addressed.

I totally agree with you, however, even the knowledge of what when on in those times has not stopped a good majority of first nations from adopting and practicing that religion now.

Originally posted by AccessDenied
I totally agree with you, however, even the knowledge of what when on in those times has not stopped a good majority of first nations from adopting and practicing that religion now.

AD Thanks for that reply-well the only message I can glean from that fact is that organised religious indoctrination,brainwashing and conditioning coupled with brutal violence and repression ....actualy does work.
Not a nice thought.
I think this film will stay with me for a long time.
Cheers Karl
P.S. Like the politically correct dictionary thread.

[edit on 02/10/08 by karl 12]

Thank you Karl for the documentary.
I never watched the video yet,
I already know of this atrocity that was done
to our people, My moshum (grandfather) recently
received his reparation from having to
go to a Residential school, he is not satisfied
from just getting money. You can't just throw money
at the problem and expect it to be fixed.
The reason why some of our reserves are still in sub standard
ways of living is because the people are still healing from the
torture there were put through from the fathers and nuns.

I haven't watched the documentary yet either, but the First Nations people got royally screwed over by the government of Canada.

What many Canadians don't realize is that there were still a few residential schools around in the 80's and 90's. Some of these people suing the government because of the sexual abuse they suffered are my age.

Yes thank god there closed now.

Originally posted by Duzey
I haven't watched the documentary yet either, but the First Nations people got royally screwed over by the government of Canada.

What many Canadians don't realize is that there were still a few residential schools around in the 80's and 90's. Some of these people suing the government because of the sexual abuse they suffered are my age.

Thats almost inconceivable that these abuses could still have been occuring right up until recent times - all these types of schools should be closed to ensure this never happens again.

Aren't we good at hiding skeletons in our closet?

First the Natives and then there was the Chinese. Strange how people call us Peace Keepers eh?

In any case, being a Canadian who grew up in a largely Native community, they have a deep rooted cultural pain in regards to what happpened to their people.

Sure the government has been somewhat linient in giving them back what they have lost, but nothing can ever truly repair such a trauma. It's akin to the Holocaust in that way.

It's really sad to think that we, a relatively young nation by any standard were so brutal in our take over/building of this great nation.

S&F for the info friend, keep'em coming.

~Keeper

Canada has let its First Nation population down I so agree. It has dragged its feet in righting the wrongs of narrow minded people who on their own religious beliefs thought the Anishnawbe needed to be re educated.

My brother is Cree and his father has received his gov`t settlement. It does not remove the memories though.

Again religion fails.