Are You Stocked Up Yet? Time Is Running Out

Originally posted by Spiritfilled
There's no need to stock up food, regardless of whether stores run out of supply. There is a perfect food: Grass
It has many advantages. It is:
1. Free
2. Fresh
3. Almost unlimited supply.
4. Amazing taste

Nuclear winter and no one will have grass.. it will all be contaminated snow

Stock up!!!!

stocked dry closet, and..........

Alcohol, tobacco and guns

Plus, camping supplies

That' s all you need, folks

Plus grass

[edit on 24-10-2008 by chickenshoes]

Originally posted by chickenshoes
stocked dry closet, and..........
Alcohol, tobacco and guns
Plus, camping supplies
That' s all you need, folks

So what your saying is that when all hell breaks loose... YOU will be one of the predators?

Hmmmm Your location has been logged...

Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
Are you SCA?

Yes and No..

landoflegends.us...

Here is a cut-n-pasted post I made on &TOTSE a few years ago:

lived in florida from 1995 to early last year. i was in the pensacola/destin area for erin, opal, ivan, and a lot of little not-quite hurricanes in between

and i learned a few things

ice is hard to come by without power

rechargeable batteries aren't worth a damn without power

i keep 8 milk jugs of frozen water in the freezer against hurricanes, power outages, etc. as well as leftovers frozen in ziplock bags

if something gets looking too freezerburned i throw it out, otherwise i leave it be

the frozen food works as ice until it melts, and then you can eat it

the frozen water works as ice (duh), is slow melting, and you can drink it when it melts

after a hurricane, work is slow. a frozen gallon milk jug of tap water is an easy 10 or 20 bucks in your pocket. it is o.k. to sell ice because it will melt anyway (unless you think you won't be able to get fresh water)

people say it is "cold blooded" to sell ice after a storm but i never sweated it. any of those fools could have kept a little water in the freezer. it isn't rocket surgery

i also keep some el cheapo candles from the dollar store, whatever there is a lot of that doesn't cost much

batteries are like gold after a storm. i try to keep a flashlight in any room with a drawer and some extra batteries in the kitchen

DO NOT trade or sell batteries. you will need them. yeah i know, you'll think "i can sell these, the lights will be back on tomorrow". that is bull#. when trucks aren't running, stores have nothing to sell except existing stock. ever gone through wal-mart with a flashlight among dozens of people who have not showered in 3 or 4 days? i have. it sucks

If anyone is looking for a real bargain this week, KMart is doubling coupons up to and including $2.00
So if you have a $2 coupon for Energizer batteries (and they were in the store on one of those "save instantly here" racks, you would get $4 off a single pack. KMart had the 4-packs for 4.19. which is quite high. However, after the coupon the packs were 19 cents. You were allowed to get up to 4 of a given item, with coupons doubled, so I got 4 4-packs for a grand total of 76 cents- for 16 AA batteries. If you have $1 coupons for things, some of the items are only a little over two dollars, so you can really make out well there this week(til Saturday, Nov.st)
Since batteries are one of the items you should stock, you can do it this week for almost nothing, if you can get the coupons.

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
For those of you who think you'll retreat to some National Forest, secluded lake, or hunting area and "live off the land", you may want to rethink your position. I am sure that a thousand other people in your community have the same idea.

It won't be long before all the wild game and fish are gone and then what? Even stockpiling food isn't a sustainable lifestyle. What if the problems go longer than your food supply?

So you've gone out and purchased 100 lbs. of flour (and probably not even the right kind), do you know how to store it properly and make bread from scratch where you live? By the way, that's enough for a family of four for less than 3 months. Baking bread is different for every location and can take many, many attempts even with a good recipe.

Do you know how to cook rice? Have you ever canned before? Do you own a pressure canner and all the supplies needed? Do you have recipes that aren't on the computer? More than 99% of my relatives and friends don't own a decent chef knife or a way to sharpen it but think they will have no problem feeding themselves.

Even if you have plenty of heirloom seeds (most are only good for one to two years by the way), you'll still need the skills to garden. It isn't a matter of sticking it in the dirt and waiting for it to get big enough to eat. Tell me, do you know how to let a carrot "go to seed"?

What you need to do is adopt a partially sustainable lifestyle now. Learn to bake your own bread, learn to cook everything from scratch, learn to garden, home brew, shoot a gun, reload ammo, do your own home repairs, can and store food, and so forth. When it matters, you aren't going to have the luxury of making mistakes that you could afford to be making now. If you are living it partially now, transitioning to it full time won't be such a shock. Or failure.

I considered myself a very accomplished cook, and then I took a six month course with a professional chef and realized I didn't have a clue. Most people can barely bake a cake from a box mix, much less debone a turkey, make their own cheese or brew beer or wine.

Most people don't know the difference between fresh herbs and dried seasonings, which herbs go with what foods, or how to inject fat into a lean piece of meat to make it more edible. Have you ever killed, cleaned and cooked a rabbit? How about a chicken? Do you think because your survival depends on it you're suddenly going to be blessed with these skills?

If you are really serious about thriving in the economy over the next year, you'd better start now acquiring some essential skills like yesterday. I've spent the last three years doing so and I don't feel near prepared.

And don't think people who have prepared are going to spend a lot of time teaching others how to do this stuff, lending their equipment, or being charitable with their excess. All the people I know who have prepared have worthless nephews, lazy brother-in-laws, air-headed sisters they have to take care of as well. And honestly, I'm more likely to ban together with other people who have prepared because they have far more to offer than people who don't have a clue.

Besides, most people who have prepared don't talk about it to people who haven't, so it's unlikely you'll know anyone who does have their act together on this.

If you are using this as a fall back plan, you need to get serious about it.

Your a hypocrite, and just looking to talk down to ppl.

Prolly why you posted anonymous.

Hunting will not be a sustainable way to make it, that is easy to see.

Some seeds do last longer than 1 - 2 years if stored properly
and thus why the seed vault they built in Svarlbard even exists.

en.wikipedia.org...

Raising rabbits if you can treat them for their common
diseases will provide protein.

Rabbits reproduce very fast.

Some ppl are taking the time to print their material, and
some ppl will offer advice for free or for a price after
things go bonkers.

There are a few "real" christians around in the rural areas,
not that I am one of them.

I was born and raised on a farm, and I have done limited
hunting and know enough to get by.

What I do and do not know I have downloaded and printed
in a fashion that will last over time, and protected it in
multi-layer water proofing material.

Arguing with some troll over who is more prepared is not
worth my time, and I am just making some VERY basic
pointers.

For true survival there are some great books and videos
out there, and if you can get ppl started in it and thinking
about it they usually find the rest or ask an expert like I did
in the past as well.

We all start "Tabula Rasa", and your egoism about having learned
what millions before you have learned is worth dust when
the time comes. We are all clean slates, and what we learn
we can all learn if we have the mind and the will power for it.

Also the seed and rabbit ideas are a moot point if we keep
racing towards WW3, so a better idea might be to head to the mill
and buy things by the ton and store them accordingly.

Besides its cheaper too...

Good Luck to you all !

Yes, even the condescending arrogant ppl that like say I have
not prepared at all and have not printed a hard copy.

Originally posted by E-ville

Originally posted by Spiritfilled
There's no need to stock up food, regardless of whether stores run out of supply. There is a perfect food: Grass
It has many advantages. It is:
1. Free
2. Fresh
3. Almost unlimited supply.
4. Amazing taste

Nuclear winter and no one will have grass.. it will all be contaminated snow

Stock up!!!!

Yeah if it ends up going to WW3, Nuclear Winter will be so much worse
than most ppl can know.

It will be so cold in the Northern Hemisphere the only way you
will really be able to make it is underground.

Wildfires from the bombs will burn off a lot of the trees.

The firewood is only going to last so long, and I recommend you
read about it on Wikipedia for a good starter.

It also links to many other professional articles on the subject.

Fallout, Disease, Exposure, Predatory humans and particle
contamination of food and water will be the top killers.

The nukes will kill 100's of Millions, the others will kill Billions.

Some ppl have planned for it for awhile:

en.wikipedia.org...

Look for caves, steam tunnels, and prepare them as makeshift
fallout shelters and have a survival group and do some practice
runs til you get it right several times in a row, ie. drills.

You need 3 feet of wood or dirt between you and the radiation.

boxes of books work, stacked lumber, even containers of packed dirt.

A really good guide is found here, read it all twice and print
out a hard copy and double zip lock bag it.

www.ki4u.com...

Make a check list and spend a lot of time thinking over what you might
need and check places like survival blog for items.

We are headed into some bad times.

Even the Russian leadership is getting ready on an unprecedented scale:

www.globalsecurity.org...

My bug out bag is made, and I am ready.

My fallout shelter is ready for my 14 day minimum stay.

I recommend you have enough food for you and all you will try
to save to last at least the first winter, and keep in mind that
winter may last til June.

I'd again like to say it is going to be so much colder than you can
imagine and prepare accordingly.

Cooling of more than –20°C occurs over large areas of North America
and of more than –30°C over much of Eurasia, including all
agricultural regions.

Knowledge is your best hope of making it.

Good Luck to you all !

Originally posted by Ex_MislTech
Cooling of more than –20°C occurs over large areas of North America
and of more than

FANTASTIC!!! Finally a break form those 120 degree days ..

Can't wait...

But enjoy that bunker

Originally posted by Symbiote
rechargeable batteries aren't worth a damn without power

A small portable solar power pack works as batteries

[edit on 27-10-2008 by zorgon]

reply to post by redhatty


So if I get ready and dismantle my life and nothing happens I can kill myself? Yes or no answer, yet you can be vague if you like. There are so many launching-angles for which to send off from from this particular locale/scene/state of time.

reply to post by zorgon


No, just ready is all.

Now, if only everyone doesn't come to my house and take my stuff, Zorgon.

Originally posted by pluckynoonez
reply to post by redhatty

 

So if I get ready and dismantle my life and nothing happens I can kill myself? Yes or no answer, yet you can be vague if you like. There are so many launching-angles for which to send off from from this particular locale/scene/state of time.

I'd say make at least the minimum preparations, and do lots of reading.

The makeshift fallout shelter from stacking boxes of newspaper
or books around a VERY strong table is cheap enough that most
anyone can manage it.

If you get a small group to chip in, its very cheap.

Just have a place away from major cities or military bases to
go to if things start to look a bit insane around the world.

The russians have already taken the stance of preemptive nuclear
strike policy against the US, thus it is pretty clear to say the
cold war is back on.

www.mnweekly.ru...

They have been making massive preparations by building
an underground city that can take 6 target on target nuke
hits and survive and house 60,000+.

www.globalsecurity.org...

they have stealth nuclear cruise missiles with 2,700 mi. range
on the bear bombers, on their subs, and on their ships.

www.globalsecurity.org...

What will set them off I am not sure, but it is pretty apparent
by their top generals statements back in early 2008 they
are getting a bit cranky.

the KI4U site shows you how to make your own cheap makeshift
but effective fallout shelter for very little money.

Some long term food to make it thru that first winter, and some
serious warm weather clothing would be a good idea as well.

Think - shelter, water, food, medicine, and self defense.

Prepare for the power to be out for good, and most likely the
natural gas lines as well.

You will truly be on your own.

There will be some bad ppl roaming around with guns, so
be ready to defend yourself or hide EXCEEDINGLY well.

I plan to do both, hide INSANELY well and be armed.

The cities will not be safe for many reasons.

Food from the mill is very cheap, or 50 lb. bags of rice
from the asian market.

Amaranth seeds are also a complete protein.

Lots of good info out there how to do it cheaply.

no thanks,I don't want to live through a massive nuclear war
you can have my beans

[edit on 30-10-2008 by all2human]

reply to post by Ex_MislTech



Thanks. I don't know what else to say.

I would like to add not only is this hitting food markets but retail as well. I work for one of the nations biggest retailers and normally this time of year our stores are over flowing with product. Right now we have not seen 1/10 of the product we have gotten every year for the past 8 years.

Word is it is not coming...

ya,there is no doubt this will be the worse retail season of the last 30 years

I have been slowly stock piling food and water. I have been talking to people to inform them. I think most people think I am crazy...I don't care. If you plant the seed it will grow.

Originally posted by Aislin

Originally posted by mellisamouse
I have started planting a variety of veggies, nuts, and even some fruits and wheat indoors as well....every time I have an empty container, I think, "hmmmmmm I wonder what I could grow in here?" Even if it is just an onion in a mayo container, or radishes in individual yogurt containers, that variety to choose from later will be well worth it, and is is actually nice having all of these extra "plants" all around the house.

I think that's a great idea.

Has anyone used a plant light to grow food inside? I ordered an assorted non-hybrid and heirloom seed kit online. If food shortages are severe, I was thinking that I would grow food indoors to prevent my garden from being looted.

I have and it works but remember you have to pollinate the vegies yourself unless you let loose bees.( not a good idea in your home) A damp Q tip works, but it is hard everyday work if you have many plants. A fan helps pollinate also. Each plant needs a different amount of light per day. You cant plant tomatos a summer grow with a pea winter spring as the light issues cause problems. If you have 1 light and 1 type of vegi you are fine.
Try sprouts they are acually really good and do not need a grow light. Mung bean sprouts taste just like sweet peas.