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What to do in today's times?

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posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 01:00 PM
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If this New World Order theory is in fact true, what are we to do? Governments buying up all the debt globally is not a good thing at all. Yet when this whole thing goes into effect what are we to do?




posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 01:06 PM
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One word for you my friend...
Revolution!
What else CAN we do?
Submit like good little slaves?
Do you think that if we ask REAL nicely that they will stop?
We enact our constitutionally given right to burn THIS government to the ground, and form a new one.
I would also suggest we hang the bodies of the illuminatee members from the front porch of the white house and televise it world wide, so they can see what fate awaits any OTHER illuminatee members who come here.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 01:07 PM
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i agree. a revolution does seem to be nessacery. but when there are so many sheep who will lead them. first wer must boycott all the nwo and there corporation and open minds. then we will revolt.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 01:19 PM
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As I have Stated here...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
I don't think we could do it without the backing of our military.
To try would probably be mass suicide.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 01:24 PM
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While this is all true it cannot happen until the lines are drawn. Those seeking to rule and abide by it, and those who seek to be governed constitutionally. Even then the power and wealth will corrupt the ranks of those in this revolution. The military for the most part will fall under the control of the NWO as most of the high ranking officials are already bought with status or money.

There will be those to abandon the military, but not before they witness or are forced to do something vile. While a revolution is ultimately the answer, I don't think it would have to be a full fledge military offensive.

Strategic assassinations of key leaders would set things in the right direction, essentially the kill the head kill the beast approach.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 01:25 PM
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Revolution? It will never happen. It's a pipe dream for a couple of reasons.... They have tanks, They have fighter Jets, They have nukes, and they have biological weapons. On a good day we could muster together a futile resistence that would quickly be swept aside. They can hold this country hostage if they wish and then what? They won't need to though because they've already taken this country over and we didn't do a damn thing about it.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 01:25 PM
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I think it would help to have the backing of our military, but not entirely neccessary. We definitely outnumber them, and a good number of military personel are not going to stand for killing american citizens ( I hope).

They definitely have the technological advantage. I hope to god it never comes to it, but other options sure arent looking good lately.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 01:41 PM
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Originally posted by ExistenceUnknown
Revolution? It will never happen. It's a pipe dream for a couple of reasons.... They have tanks, They have fighter Jets, They have nukes, and they have biological weapons. On a good day we could muster together a futile resistence that would quickly be swept aside. They can hold this country hostage if they wish and then what? They won't need to though because they've already taken this country over and we didn't do a damn thing about it.

That is exactly WHY we need our military to support us.
Then the Tanks, Jets, etc etc would be aimed in the right direction. (not at us)



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 02:07 PM
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I was thinking the same thing about the military. They are civilians in uniform after all. As long as they have the same idea of what is going on; they should not be hard to convince to go against the few that are leading them. Not sure how probable this is though



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 02:13 PM
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They are not civilians.
However consider this.
Thanks to the Nuremburg Trials any military personel who commit a crime can be held responsible for that crime, EVEN IF they were just following an order.
In a nutshell that means that if they were ordered to shoot us (if we revolted) they can be held responsible for their actions.

If you were a soldier, and knew this, would you follow orders that you knew could send you to international criminal courts in the hauge?



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 02:24 PM
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How are they not civilians if they are recruited off the streets? Its not like they are beings from another planet are they? They live in our communities and have families etc. That should be enough of a similarity to make them able to see our views.

As for your soldier criminals idea: Well, from what Ive seen from soldiers who are in Iraq, soldiers are more then willing to use the "drop guns" excuse to kill whoever is in their way. Even if they are unarmed. If you are armed then that probably makes it more likely for you to be killed.

I also should mention that I just found this site and have been reading it for a week so I may not have the full understanding of all this, but this is what I am seeing it as right now.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 02:26 PM
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Taken directly from wiki so you can look it up also.
A civilian under international humanitarian law is a person who is not a member of his or her country's armed forces.
en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 02:44 PM
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The point is that our military might not harm us, but the president holds the codes to the nukes, and I am sure there are plenty of people loyal to their cause should this ever be required. We have allowed our government to become way more powerful than its citizens. That is something our founding fathers never wanted to happen.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 02:48 PM
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Ok, well I guess Im just using the wrong terminology. What I mean though is that they are people like you and me and are able to think for themselves in these situations. They are able to see that what they are being told to do could have negative effects.

Which is why I think as long as a strong argument is made in favor of stopping this NWO that it can still be reversed. "I may be a dreamer, but im not the only one" comes to mind here



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 02:50 PM
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In most cases I don't think that a soldier is going to go against their orders. If they are told to shoot Americans it would be presented to them that it was a "Terrorist" situation, that the people revolting were terrorists and were undermining the country. The Government lies, there is no reason it would not lie to the military to enact retaliation.

The Patriot Act is as un-American as you can get. That is one of the stepping stones they have put in place to better root out the people opposed to the NWO.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 02:58 PM
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I have to disagree.
I think that might work at first, but how are you going to convince a soldier than hundreds or thousands of americans are suddenly terrorists?
Eventually they would wake up and smell the coffee and realize that the orders they are following are illegal, immoral, and just plain wrong.
As I stated...
Thanks to the Nuremburg Trials any military personel who commit a crime can be held responsible for that crime, EVEN IF they were just following an order.
As for the president having the launch codes for the nukes, I'm sure that after a few hours of waterboarding him he would give those up to the proper military authorities.

"We have allowed our government to become way more powerful than its citizens. That is something our founding fathers never wanted to happen."
Exactly, and as a matter of fact this is why the constitution, declaration of independence, and bill of rights were written.
To ensure that if the government ever did get so powerful and out of control that it was becoming a threat to our very way of life, that we had every right to remove it from power and install a new one.

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posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 03:12 PM
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My question now would be: How would you go about starting a new government? That seems to be the next logical step. How would you go about trying to tell people that what we have now is corrupt. Was this ever thought of when the constitution was written? All this seems very strange, to have a promise like that made, but not be able to act on it or you are called a terrorist or conspiracy theorist.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 03:34 PM
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"How would you go about starting a new government?"

I would hope that the new government would be based on the same constitution, declaration of independence, and bill of rights that have served us well until recently.
Hopefully with tighter restrictions on how much they can alter the original documents. (which is what has gotten us into this mess to begin with)

"How would you go about trying to tell people that what we have now is corrupt"

I don't think too many people need alot of convincing to see that this government is corrupt, they rub your face in it blatently almost in a bragging sense.

"Was this ever thought of when the constitution was written? All this seems very strange, to have a promise like that made, but not be able to act on it or you are called a terrorist or conspiracy theorist."

As far as I can tell (from what I understand) there's no "game plan" to remove this government. How could there be, the founding fathers had no idea what may come.
I'm sure they DEFINITELY didn't see THIS coming.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 08:50 PM
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The resistance is growing. Once there is enough support we will have the rally-round-the-flag effect. Too many people are asking questions now and searching for answers. People are getting fed up and angry. The melting pot that is America is now boiling over.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 09:18 PM
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Originally posted by ExistenceUnknown
Revolution? It will never happen. It's a pipe dream for a couple of reasons.... They have tanks, They have fighter Jets, They have nukes, and they have biological weapons. On a good day we could muster together a futile resistence that would quickly be swept aside. They can hold this country hostage if they wish and then what? They won't need to though because they've already taken this country over and we didn't do a damn thing about it.


are u kidding me bro
sure they got jets and nukes and what not but u think they would actually use them on their own soil

i can see tanks....and spy planes sure
but u know how easily it is to take out a tank man comon think
and guarilla warfare...hit and run tacticts
they will never see em coming

like that ho chi minh or w/e said we will kill 1 of u and u will kill 100 of us and you will be who tires 1st or something like that

impossible is nothing



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