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Illuminati Defector tells her story

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posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 08:05 AM
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Hi I'm a relatively new bloke to this site so if this story is just regurgitated do excuse me. I just found it extremely depressing if it is true. If all this illuminati/nwo stuff is legitimate then I'm not sure how the hell it gets stopped or if it can be stopped. If these people are so infiltrated into the worlds governments, banks, etc then it's going to take one hell of a revolution to shift them. This link should come with a warning, especially the bit about the little girl. If anyone can debunk all this NWO stuff about Rothschilds and Rockefellers then ill be more than happy.

www.savethemales.ca...

[edit on 15-10-2008 by loggsy]




posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 08:25 AM
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I really don't know what the Illuminati is, but from the descriptions that have been made available, it seems to be a viral based system. The illuminati is not alive itself, but requires a host system to operate. Removing a virus from the living (host) system is not easy but worth it and once complete the host can begin healing.

First, determine the structure of the system the virus (Illuminati in this case) is infecting. Then, go to the origin of the living system and remove the viral system and the remaining viral body must follow. Viruses apparently like to attach themselves at the most fundamental level of the living system to take full advantage of its life force.

Now, like a chicken with its head cut off that runs around the yard for a time, this virus could remain attached to the host and appear to be alive and kicking. From some perspectives it may even appear that nothing works and the parasite cannot be removed, just as it appears that a chicken with its head cut off is not dead, but up and running. But everyone knows that once the head comes off the chicken is dead, so is it with the parasite Illuminati.

The head of the Illuminati was cut off this past Monday, but it will take some time before the Illuminati, whatever this is, realizes that it is no longer attached to the host. Likewise, for the people observing events in the world it may appear that the Illuminati cannot be killed, but they are dead, just wait and see.

I want to make clear that I don't know what the Illuminati is, I just know a parasite was killed two days ago. Its still operating but it will fall off the body of man soon enough.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 09:55 AM
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Interesting stuff you have found. I'm not a big Illuminati researcher, but I'm reading through the articles and I've found some things that perks my ears a little.

1) USSR-- The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics collapsed in 1991. So either the source is using the term to describe the region as a whole (I've seen this before in my course work in geography), or these articles are not recent as they are billed as.

2) Revelation-- I keep having to check my Bible as I'm reading, and I keep finding that this fits way too well into parts of the End Times theory that Christianity holds. I'm not saying that they are leading to it, but this woman may have used this as a template for writing about such things. On the other hand if she is truthful and she never touches one as an occultist, then it could be that something else is at hand.

3) She's still alive?-- If myths are to be believed and 1% of the US population is involved in the Illumnati...is she still alive? If so, I would seriously doubt the authenticity of this, because this level of a breach in security in a secret organization is not good...for them. If she is still alive though then this is likely to be a disinformation thing to keep us off the real track ( Long stretch I know, but it needs to be said).

I"m going to keep reading, and I'll try to check back with anything more I find.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 10:38 AM
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It's a pyramid scheme of the monetary system, look on the back of the dollar bill. People get things mixed up and form their own theories and opinions but what it comes down to is a select few people at the top who are super rich and control lots of things through their money, power and influence, they give a order to someone below them and that person below then gives the order to another person below him, and so on down the pyramid. - most of the time not knowing where or who the order came from except the person who gave it to him/her.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 10:58 AM
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Appreciate the response, I've come across so much information since I started getting into this, what's real or not is all a bit of a blur. One website describes about 50 species of aliens, who, where and why they are. Seems almost insane to a degree.

With the illuminati, I just find hard to believe that if they are real, just how they've kept themselves so covert over christ knows how many years, surely a whistleblower or two would pop up every now and then but at the moment it's as believable as the alien theories albeit right under our noses, but maybe that's their strength.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 10:59 AM
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Ok, i read this account that was proffered up by this "svali", and i have to say, there are a few things that didn't click with me.

1. She described the training she went through as being one that involved hand to hand combat, killing infants, animals, etc... so how is it that she is not severely distraught by these events. It seems to me that if a person is put through such mental anguish at the age of 2, that it would reverberate through the rest of their lives. she is a hardened killing machine according to her own words, but speaking as though she was simply cured of all this? /shenanigans

2. at the end of the page, it says "Svali is a registered nurse". a registered nurse? When did she find time to go to nursing school between the being a mind controller and soldier? was it after she was magically cured and realized "hey, i might need a job to pay some bills... i like working with people... so i'll be a nurse"? if you were exposed to severe sexual/ritual abuse and military/hand-to-hand/armed combat, what kind of social skills do you think this woman would have achieved?

at best, this is a mish-mash of conspiracy theories strewn together with what i can only imagine was a healthy dose of PCP and acid.

1% of the population are para-military trained pedophiles and killing machines. but they don't realize it, because they are brain-washed... i didn't make that line up, here it is



The older the child or teen, the more advanced the training. By age 15, most children will also be forced to do hand to hand combat in front of spectators (high people who come to watch the "games" much as the ancient gladiators performed). These matches are rarely done to the death, usually until one child goes down. They use every type of weapon imaginable, and learn to fight for their lives. If a child loses a fight, they are heavily punished by their trainer, who loses "face". If they win, they are again praised for being "strong' and adept with weapons. By the time they are 21, they are well trained combat/killing machines with command codes to kill and they have been tested over and over to prove that they WILL obey on command. This is how children in the German Illuminati are brought up, I went through it myself

they never openly disclose their agenda, or their cult activities, as often they are amnesic to them. These are well-respected, "Christian" appearing business leaders in the community. The image in the community is all-important to an Illuminist; they will do anything to maintain a normal, respected facade, and DESPISE exposure. ....

None of the Illuminists that I have known, had unkind, or evil appearing, persona in their daytime lives, although some were dysfunctional, such as being alcoholics. The dissociation that drives the Illuminists is their greatest cover ... Many, if not most, of these people are completely unaware of the great evil that they are involved in, during the night."


i'm not going to pretend to be some sort of expert on mind control or the illuminati, but something tells me that this is a work of fiction.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 11:07 AM
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An extended 18 part interview useing e-mail? I'm sure that it was on the up and up!!!! No face to face to try to get the sense of whether or not your being fooled? Hell, I could do that and make up one hell of a story and NOT screw up like this Svali person did about her nursing career!!
I don't lend too much credence to this report. Its shoddy journalism at the least and wholesale crap at the worst!
Zindo



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 11:09 AM
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I sincerely hope you're right sandman. I remember a program on bbc1 about how they trained children to be fighters in Africa, sickened me at the time. One child sat in the middle of a group of children and they were ordered to bit a lump of flesh out of the child in the middle, if they didn't then they went in the middle. Theory being to desensitize them early on so killing was a run of the mill thing to them and turned them into battle hardy warriors.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 11:54 AM
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[edit on 15-10-2008 by Atlantican]



posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 09:59 AM
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I don't doubt that children in Africa are being trained in that way. Classical training works well in children, so if you wanted to train a hardened killer, the best time to do it is in childhood.

The problem here is that the teller of these events presents herself in a manner such that you would be led to believe that she led a normal life. This is impossible if the things she claims to be subjected to were true.

It's like a dog that's trained to fight. once it's broken and reprogrammed to be a fighter, it can't be a loveable house pet anymore. that dog is long dead, replaced with killer instincts and a very short temper.

i laughed out loud when i read the registered nurse part, because this is the train of thought that went through my head

Trained killer/mind controller/rape victim escapes from the illuminati's grasp after YEARS of torture and torment and mind control, and isn't murdered for knowing too much, and decides to become a registered nurse.... That's like saying that Jeffery Dahmer would have just decided to stop killing people one day, and thought to himself "i'll put my people skills to good use" and becomes a door to door salesman.



posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 11:43 AM
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Read descriptions from all of these people who claim to be illuminati insiders. They all share striking similarities. So, they are either telling the truth, or are all taking a page from the same playbook.

I'll leave it to the reader to decide which one it is.



posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 12:10 PM
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Most of them are wounded, abused victims, who don't realize that it is possible to leave the group.


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They cut their eyeteeth on status, power, and money.


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These bases are used intermittently to teach and train generational Illuminati in military techniques, hand- to- hand combat, crowd control, use of arms, and all aspects of military warfare.


I don't know too many people who cut their eyeteeth on status, power & money who are wounded, abused victims and at the same time trained as paramilitary crowd control cops, but apparently this describes 1% of the US population...

She should coordinate her themes better if she's trying to write a screenplay.



posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 12:24 PM
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Hmmm - I was on another website earlier and this same woman, Svali, was mentioned on there and I ended up at YouTube watching 9 videos. I came over to ATS a couple of hours later and find this thread! Synchronisity?

The videos were quite interesting - they're actually a recording of a radio interview from November 2007. What spooked me most was that she mentioned a global financial system breakdown.

There are 9 videos that run for around 8 minutes each. Just search Svali at YouTube, if you're interested.



posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 12:28 PM
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I havn't watched these interviews yet, don't have time. But one thing I will say is this is what Arizona Wilder talks about, and the reason the children are systematically exposed to such trauma is to either compartmentalize their brain, as in multiple personality disorder, so these compartments are used for certain missions, or to create psychopaths, perfectly functioning individuals without conscience. Ie. Bush! Out of this horrific world, most of the leaders are groomed.



posted on Oct, 17 2008 @ 07:40 AM
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The Illuminati has planned first for a financial collapse that will make the great depression look like a picnic. This will occur through the manoeuvring of the great banks and financial institutions of the world, through stock manipulation, and interest rate changes. Most people will be indebted to the federal government through bank and credit card debt, etc. The governments will recall all debts immediately, but most people will be unable to pay and will be bankrupted. This will cause generalized financial panic, which will occur simultaneously worldwide, as the Illuminists firmly believe in controlling people through finances.


Just my two cents;

A lot of what she said looks like rubbish however if this article was truly penned in 2002 then this makes the above more interesting. In the UK a recent law has been passed that will allow debt collectors namely bailiffs more power to use reasonable force to gain entry into peoples homes.(The only two types of bailiffs that can currently forcefully enter a home without a court order are those collecting criminal fines and outstanding taxes). This law effectively does away with what protection has been granted since the early 1600's namely "a man's home is his castle". Private firms will now have the ability to use "harassment, fear and extortion" to obtain money owed while being protected by law. The UK government has nationalized two banks and has stakes in the 4 major banks. A 60% controlling stake in RBS for example. There are now also government officials being appointed to the boards of these banks as directors.

Northern Rock the first UK bank to be natonalised has made BBC news today as debt charities are urging ministers to hold the bank to account with regards to their "aggressive" attitude towards home repossession.

Coincidence? maybe but it still sends a chill down my spine.



posted on Oct, 24 2008 @ 09:37 AM
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That is an interesting point. I've been watching the anime Gundam 00 and one of the characters has a split personality, one side a mass murderer-type, the other the normal guy who you wouldn't think anything of as you walked by him on the street. He was produced in a military lab for the purpose of being a super soldier.

Honestly what better way to position your forces than in positions where you don't suspect? If you have your forces line up and someone opens fire from behind that line, you are going to get more damage done than attacking the line from the front.

The problem I have with this has been expressed by many, but its the fact that they have a problem with it. 1% of the US population (about 3,000,000) is a plausible number if you train the person then brainwash them like that anime character. Sure they have a day job and when they go home they feel the "urge" to go to the gym or weight train at home. Just to put that 1% in perspective

(from the US Census Back to School press release for 2007-08)

This year 3.3 million high school diplomas will be issued

This year 3 million college degrees will be issued.

Now consider that if you train a very small portion every year (say 100,000) distributed throughout the country, then you would have (technically) a 3,000,000 man army still viable since the oldest would just be turning in their mid-40's or so (again theoretically)

You say 3,000,000 is a number that is unbelievable, I say its plausible, but I'd need more evidence of their training schedule, viability estimates, command structure and so on in order to figure if that number is accurate.

(Edited to correct a typo with the date)

[edit on 10/24/2008 by Sir Solomon]



posted on Oct, 24 2008 @ 10:13 AM
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type Svali into googlevideo and there is a radio interview there. I have not listened yet just found it so can't comment on the context yet.....



posted on Oct, 24 2008 @ 08:44 PM
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Iactually considering trying to send her an e-mail at svali@suite101.com to see if she is for real... but I wanted to get any suggestions first from people here before I went and did something dumb, like it turns out that she's a fake and she ends up stealing my I.D or hacks my PC.



posted on Oct, 26 2008 @ 03:05 AM
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If you are that concerned about being hacked and having your I.D. stolen take a few easy steps (if they are possible)

1) Use a public computer--Libraries are popular places and few don't have access to the internet anymore. Internet cafe's also seem to be in most major cities.

2) Make an email account on a different site from the one you use--I know it sounds odd, but by using a different service than the one you use for all of your stuff, even if they track you back to the public computer, all they will have found is a recently created account that has no connection (internet-wise) to you (because if you use the same service as you normally do, you may inadvertantly login to your real account around the same time, and this can be traced to you). Also important to note is to enter the wrong zip code when signing up and leaving your address blank and using a pen name. This allows another layer of fuzziness between you and her, since you are denying a potential hacker/I.D. Stealer from getting anything on you.



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