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What would it take for American citizens to hand in their firearms willingly?

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posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 11:56 AM
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a million dollars to everyone who disarms!!




posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 12:02 PM
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Originally posted by JackCash
I don't believe that they will do it that way.


They'll go about it the way they've always been going about it. By passing one law after another slowly stripping the right away piecemeal until nobody cares anymore. They can certainly speed the process along with "tragedies" but only on the local level which is how they've been able to get strict laws passed in many urban areas.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 12:04 PM
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I believe when everything comes crashing down....
the economy, utilities, inflation, food supplies, "terror" attacks,...

I think the utamate goal is to get us dependant on government for housing and food.

We have already given the government the authority to do so in the patriot act and various other new laws. Now they are taking your money, your savings, your jobs, right out from under you in broad daylight. And you can do nothing about it.

So know they have the authority and the resources.

Rural farmers may have an advantage in this case, but suburbanites and city dwellers would have no choice but be herded into a fema camp or starve. Of course, no weapons would be allowed in for your protection.

Smell that? It's the wonderful aroma of your goose being cooked. Courtesy of laziness and naivette. Really, that people still think these crooks can be elected out of power.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 12:12 PM
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Originally posted by lushyslushy
a million dollars to everyone who disarms!!


You are laughing, but I think you are on to something.

I bet a lot of people would jump at that offer. A LOT!



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 12:14 PM
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There is no scenario for such an event.




An armed society is a free society, and freedom is worth the price of death. Better to die on your feet as a free man than to live on your knees as a slave.

The coward dies 1,000 deaths and the free man dies but once.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 12:15 PM
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Never, ever, aint gonna happen, no way, many times I have HAD to live off the land, I hate to think, when I see what is comming, that I won't be able to survive.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 01:06 PM
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They wouldn't be so foolish as to outright announce the banning of guns, it would be something far less extravagant and would be accomplished in stages. Most people wouldn't even realize it until it was too late. And yes most Americans would hand them over, the same reason they let cops search their vehicles simply because "I've got nothing to hide".

Edited for spelling

[edit on 15-10-2008 by ExistenceUnknown]



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 01:10 PM
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The inability to be willing to die for a belief. We are already there.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 01:36 PM
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Originally posted by ExistenceUnknown
They wouldn't be so foolish as to outright announce the banning of guns, it would be something far less extravagant and would be accomplished in stages. Most people wouldn't even realize it until it was too late. And yes most Americans would hand them over, the same reason they let cops search their vehicles simply because "I've got nothing to hide".

Edited for spelling

[edit on 15-10-2008 by ExistenceUnknown]


There are many Americans who own many guns. They are very likely to bury a few of them and claim they are lost or stolen. This was done after the civil war. It will not be easy to disarm Americans. It would be a waist of time to even try.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 01:38 PM
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Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
I guess if facing down the barrel of some government thugs gun and standing alone



The one thing that all of us Americans have in common is that we would not ever be alone in that fight. Just about each and every one of us had ancestors who paid a high price for us to have the freedom we do. It would never be just you standing there. You would be standing there with all those who fought with their lives to get you there, with your kids, friends, neighbors, etc.

Even if I was the only woman left standing with a gun, looking down a sea of leathal barrels, you would still have to pry it out of my cold dead hands.





Many believe we walk a fine line as far as our freedom goes. With a little bit being taken away here and there. I do believe, though, that everyone is very clear on where that line truely lays. The moment they take our guns, is the moment we are no longer free.

Though we may seem to take a lot for granted, we never forget what it means to be an American.

We will never give up our freedom.

[edit on 15-10-2008 by mrsdudara]



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 01:47 PM
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Divide and conquer.

Consider there's a percentage of Americans that already don't want you to have guns. I'm talking about the very left liberals that we all have at least worked with or maybe even in our extended family.

Then you have to consider how many Americans are just pussies or incapable of handling a weapon in the first place. As I sit here looking out my window I would say more than half the people in my neighborhood wouldn't have the sack to use a weapon and I have a half dozen LEO's in my neighborhood.

Realistically how many of us are worthwhile fighters and believe in the 2nd amendment? What percentage? I suggest off the top of my head it's probably less than a third of Americans.

So, what does the government have to do to take guns away from the rest of us? Very simple - look at Katrina. When a bunch of LEO's show up at your house and tell you they're collecting weapons - what are you going to do?

It's probably going to be a unexpected knock on the door, you're going to be exhausted & tired from whatever event took place and there's going to be at least a half dozen respectful looking guys that you have always supported in the past asking for your cooperation. If you decide to and are capable of taking a few of them out, no doubt they will be back with reinforcements eventually. So, you either have a last stand and start your own personal war or you flee away from the safety of your dwelling and become a hunted criminal the rest of your life.

Allot of people talk tough, but the fact is we're one supreme court justice away from another assault on our 2nd Amendment becoming successful and one major disaster away from martial law requiring weapons confiscation from all private citizens that are not working for LEA's.

Consider that an attempt is being made to require us all to stop at border style checkpoints far away from any border, usually called "Safety Checks' because they're looking for aliens and bad guys hauling drugs or weapons - so all the sheeple accept the intrusion of our liberty, for your safety.

[edit on 15-10-2008 by verylowfrequency]



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 01:53 PM
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Buy extra guns and bury a few of them. The writing is on the wall. If they take your guns away it is because the powers that be want to starve you to death and they know perfectly well that desparate criminals can double for hit squads any day. It's obvious that convicts are well armed.



posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 10:19 AM
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I have found that the majority of Americans are law-abiding citizens (this seems to be especially true of Secon Amendment proponents), even if it is to their detriment. This fact will definitely be to their detriment after this November election has come to a conclusion. The only outcome I can foresee is 'President Obama' as of January 2009. We all know his real stance on gun ownership in the United States; he does not think you or I are responsible enough to have this privilege, not that McCain is much better on this issue. No doubt there will be many new 'common sense' gun laws passed after he is inaugurated, 'to prevent more school massacres and loss of innocent life'...who will stop him? The democrat led house or senate? Pfffft! I don't think so! Because we are law-abiding, we will comply...and comply...and comply as the laws get ever more strict to the point at which guns are essentially banned from all excepting LEO and DoD. I can see it clear as day, and it is a tragic sight indeed. As for me and my family, we will do all we can to preserve the rights with which we are all born!



posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 01:15 PM
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Obama's grasp on power will be anything but solid. Congress and the Senate will not approve of disarming the public. Even if they did people would still buy guns. We have porous border and Obama has promised to make it more porous. The Mexicans will gladly sell guns to Americans.


[edit on 16-10-2008 by eradown]



posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 03:02 PM
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Originally posted by JackCash
What in your opinion will cause the American people to WANT too get rid of their fire arms?


I might be enticed by a 'swap up' type program. You know, trade in my Desert Eagle for a Barrett. Other then that do not even think about it....



posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 03:13 PM
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I will NEVER give up my guns willingly. If they're is an America in our future that is gun free... I will only be in it in the form of a grave or a rotting corpse.

Hopefully my home state of Texas will take this opportunity to secede from the county so that I will have somewhere to be safe. If not them I will go out in a great battle in my home.

I feel bad for the first group to kick in my door... it will be rigged.



posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 03:28 PM
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I simply don't think it's possible to convince Americans to give up their guns voluntarily. I firmly believe that the 2nd is an alarm clock that will wake many groggy citizens from their slumber.

Under fear of immediate death, such as having guns at your head and threatened with execution, sure. However, the first thing through my mind after the storm troopers leave is "gotta find a gun... now.".

Gun for bread? I'd rather trade a bullet for a deer.

The other postulations are simply arguments against surrender of our guns. Terrorist attacks, false flag or not, or any fear based motivation makes people want to buy bullets, not get rid of their guns. American society has proven that they will relinquish freedom for security, but giving up security for security would be a tough sell, even to the comatose American society.



posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 04:01 PM
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well I'm being buried standing up with my 357 mag on my hip and my 338 at my side, so they will never get my guns.

I mean, what if I got into heaven and didn't have a gun? Can you imagine the size of the hogs up there?



posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 04:05 PM
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Personally speaking, the only way I would want - truly want - to hand over my firearms is if I could exchange them for a new weapon technology that could improve my accuracy, rate of fire, controllability, reliability, and ease of maintenance.



posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 04:49 PM
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Why do Americans NEED guns? How often do you actually use your firearms? I can understand why if you live on property and go hunting, etc.

I've had friends visit the USA and they say it's a great place and not much different feeling to Aus (obviously there would be bad areas, as in any country) Is it just because you have always had access to guns, so you feel your right shouldn't be taken away from you?

Maybe Aus is safer, but I can't think of even one time through my life where I have though, 'dam, i wish I had a gun right now'.... Would your life really be that much different if your guns were taken away?

I'm not trying to start any trouble here, i'm just genuinely interested.




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