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OFFICIAL- Final U.S. Presidential Debate

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posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 09:31 PM
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Closing statements:

McCain - Trust us? NO. Sincere? False. Family heritage? Good, but pulling at heartstrings...


Obama 8 Years? Not again. Failed Policys? Not again. Fundamental Change? Good. Investing in people? Convincing. Wages? Good Card. Come together? heard it all before.


McCain - Good

Obama - Better




posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 09:31 PM
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I have to agree, and I can't stand that woman! SHE SCARES ME STUPID!! But the 'vagina' references are a bit too much.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 09:32 PM
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Whoa check out our sigs.

Unfortunately I don't agree that people will vote for that bimbo.

Mccain has gotten better at rhetoric as the debates have worn on but I think he's a loon, judging by his erratic behavior of late.

I get the feeling Obama is holding back in order to win by looking more mainstream.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 09:33 PM
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Ha


Nice one



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 09:33 PM
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Much better debate than the previous ones, IMO. About the closest thing to a true debate (which apparently doesn't exist anymore).

Thanks to you all for the insight and opinions. Has been fun. I refuse to listen to Wolfe Blitzter and others tell me what I just saw.

Night all. Well done on objectivity tonight amongst us, I think.

Cheers



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 09:37 PM
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McCain was very good.

Obama came back but was put off by McCain's fast start.

McCain wins, slightly. But by a larger margin than Obama won teh last one.

Interesting to see the polls now - McCain needed this.

Goodnight guys, I'm gonna miss these debate nights



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 09:38 PM
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Originally posted by Techsnow
The whole thing about Acorn and McCain having the last say, saying that Obama gave Acorn $200k was a low blow and its not even true. McCain really does play dirty.


you're right, it wasn't true. Obama gave ACORN $800,000.

give me a few and I'll edit with a source.


edit for spelling

[edit on 15-10-2008 by undinemyth]



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 09:41 PM
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Well I think that was the best debate of the 3 and the best performance McCain has given yet.

I think McCains accusations of 'foul play' against the democrats was hypocritical though and I'm not sure how he kept a straight face throughout all that rhetoric; but otherwise I thought he did well.

That said and issues aside - McCain, 'overall', is just no match at all for Obama in my opinion. Whether he actually has it or not, Obama exudes class, confidence and intelligence and that's what really shines through when you put these two together.

My vote goes to Obama.

Umm ... except I don't get a vote.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 09:41 PM
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Vouchers

Mccain is really strange. McCain generally want you to earn everything that you get, no freebies.

But when it comes to vouchers he wants to pay for private schooling for parents that can't afford to send their kids to these private schools in the first place. Why not spend that money to elevate the public schools to private school standards? That said, I went to private schools through college and that didn't cause any magic to happen for me.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 09:42 PM
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Agreed,

A good discussion except for one post. I'm for Obama but could see McCain came out.

Good night - great debate - keep an eye on the polls!!



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 09:44 PM
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It was an even debate. McCain had some good chances to nail Obama but totally wiffed.

As it looks right now, prepare for an Obama presidency with full legislative support in Congress.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 09:51 PM
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Originally posted by redhatty
Bah, education, have they not read The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America

seriously folks, do you think either party REALLY wants an educated electorate?


I don't think either party hierarchy per se wants an educated electorate, but I think Obama personally wants one. Educated does not neccesarily mean intellectual. It also means having useful skills.

I think Obama turns both parties on their heads when he gets elected. I also think he adresses many subjects considered "conspracies on this site".
I use to like McCain but the last several years I think he has lost his ability to think for himself which use to be his strongest quality.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 09:51 PM
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Every major cable news channel is showing Obama as the winner by a huge amount. What's up with that?!?

And the focus group that Fox had all showed Obama as the winner. Not one person went in to watch the debate thinking they would vote for Obama and almost half decided to vote for him based on this debate.

I sure hope an October surprise comes and knocks Obama back to the fantasy land he came from. 4 years of Obama sounds a lot like eternal damnation in hell!

Jemison



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 09:53 PM
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Are the pundits saying that or do they have the first polls up yet? I haven't seen the polls, but I am listening to the commentators and I must have been watching a different debate than they were.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 09:55 PM
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I thought McCain did pretty good. It wasn't what i was hoping he would do. I was wanting him to really drive home that he was going after corruption in our government. He mentioned it but didn't go into much detail at all about it. Obama isn't going to do this. It's a democratic congress. I want people held accountable for this financial mess.

I don't think McCain is a loon. I think he's had some terrible advice from his campaign managers that has hurt him. He's a good man and i believe he has good intentions for our country.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 09:56 PM
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Originally posted by disgustedbyhumanity
I think Obama turns both parties on their heads when he gets elected. I also think he adresses many subjects considered "conspracies on this site".
I use to like McCain but the last several years I think he has lost his ability to think for himself which use to be his strongest quality.


Maybe Obama will address many things considered "conspiracies" on this site, but that's what scares me the most. I think he may end up addressing them by proving them real. When tinfoil becomes 2x4, I'm really freaked.

The G20 report from last weekend clearly stated they (the G20) want Obama as President.


With the state of the universe increasingly ulcerous, with the Group of Eight and the United Nations Security Council hardly representative of the new global order, Mr. Paul Martin, former Prime Minister of Canada, has intensified his campaign for a new international body of 15 or 20 powers to give global governance a chance. While not divulging details, Martin said his talks with the U.S. presidential contenders, particularly the Democrat, Barack Obama, were most encouraging. “The Obama people … understand this issue. They understand that the United States has to do things differently.” The stated preference of Mr. McCain is for a league of democracies. But Mr. Martin explained that, for a new body to be effective, it can't leave out megapowers such as China. He described how his G20 campaign has picked up support from China, France, Britain and others. It's “going to happen,” he said. It's “inevitable.”

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They also clearly state that McCain prefers a "League of Democracies"

Of course, it may be my own "tinfoil" talking, but I have a hard time thinking that the G20 is NOT an extension of the NWO agenda.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 09:56 PM
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McCain won this debate on points and passion. However sometimes he came off as a little desperate and his abortion comments I’m sure made Independents cringe across the nation.

This financial crisis is the best thing to happen to Obama’s political career. An older sixty year old, registered Independent man in my life that I am quite fond of who agrees with me that McCain won this debate has tonight decided he is voting for Obama (the only other Democrat he’s voted for is Bill Clinton when he ran for a second term, otherwise he has always voted for Republicans). You know why he is voting for Obama? Because with this economic crisis he believes the “spreading of wealth” is favorable to freezing spending completely, and I think he like many Americans realizes we will end up paying for this crisis and believes the wealthiest of Americans can handle carrying most of that weight. May not be fair, may be flat out socialism in our increasingly socialized America, but a lot of voters can not be bothered with that, they seem to only be happy with capitalism when it works for them.

McCain won the debate, Obama won more votes. Again just my opinion, but no amount of tit for tat between candidates is going to change that we are in hard financial times right now and while not idyllic Americans’ are responding better to Obama’s plans for dealing with this crisis.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 09:58 PM
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Originally posted by Jemison
Every major cable news channel is showing Obama as the winner by a huge amount. What's up with that?!?

And the focus group that Fox had all showed Obama as the winner. Not one person went in to watch the debate thinking they would vote for Obama and almost half decided to vote for him based on this debate.

I sure hope an October surprise comes and knocks Obama back to the fantasy land he came from. 4 years of Obama sounds a lot like eternal damnation in hell!

Jemison


As has been stated on Fox ... all Obama had to do to win this one is draw with McCain. (Because he's already leading in the polls) Add in all those that actually believe Obama won this debate and that's where these networks are drawing their conclusions from.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 09:58 PM
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The trend im seeing is the people that are asked on camera where they stand are saying McCain won, but those whom we dont see or hear speak are saying Obama won. I think its media manipulation at its finest. The Rassmussen will be more representative in terms of the actual winner.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 10:02 PM
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I am seeing the opposite of what you posted.

At least from the pundits and focus groups.



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