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reply posted on 15-10-2008 @ 10:34 AM by TH3ON3
reply to post by Spooky Fox Mulder



I'm sure that those who are of a higher intellect saw this goodchild thing as nothing but a distraction. I was not disappointed in nothing happening because I for one don't believe that "channeling" is a legitimate evidence of communication with "aliens".

I will never change my mind on the absolute truth that I know to be right, that UFOs are a real phenomenon. So all those who were expecting some kind of huge ship to appear over Alabama or whatever prove how easily people are led down paths of deception.

But the majority of the UFO "community" or those who have witnessed a real appearance of a UFO are not divided or surprised by this charlatan goodchild.

But perhaps it was just a fun diversion for the masses who are searching for answers to what they have seen. I for one know what the UFOs are and why they are here.

So no...I don't think this hurt those who have come to believe that there is something strange and inexplicable going on in the skies. And those who were crushed by this non event need to examine just why they believed such an utterly preposterous claim by yet another false UFO prophet.


reply posted on 15-10-2008 @ 11:27 AM by InfaRedMan
reply to post by lushyslushy



Hey lushyslushy!

Some people simply aren't 'smarter than that'... as the lead up to the 14th showed. Believing is fine but the 'need to believe' always impairs ones rationality... kinda sad really

IRM


reply posted on 15-10-2008 @ 12:36 PM by lushyslushy
Originally posted by InfaRedMan
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post by lushyslushy



Hey lushyslushy!

Some people simply aren't 'smarter than that'... as the lead up to the 14th showed. Believing is fine but the 'need to believe' always impairs ones rationality... kinda sad really

IRM


yes i am realizing that people will want to believe something soooooo bad that they a react like a starving fish to bait.


reply posted on 15-10-2008 @ 01:17 PM by kidflash2008
reply to post by Spooky Fox Mulder



I have a "rant" about what is wrong with ufology, and the main problem is us believers.

We do not question enough of the claims made out there, and are afraid to go further when it looks like the answer to a famed sighting might have a mundane answer. To find all the answers means there will be some disappointment.

1. I do believe aliens from other worlds and/or dimensions have visited us throughout time.

2. I do believe the government has crashed extraterrestrial ships and bodies in its possession. I do not believe they are at Area 51 (a ruse), but at other military locations in the USA.

3. After reading much about the MJ-12 documents, I believe they are fakes, but disinformation to keep the researchers busy arguing. If any real documents to get stolen or find their way out, they will be thought of as fakes too. This has worked for three decades and counting. To be fair to Stanton Friedman, he has found many documents and information on some people that helps out with research. Among them is memos by J Edgar Hoover and his interest in the crash at Roswell and other UFOs.

4. Too many fringe elements get a free ride. Channelers, contactees, abductees, and others don't get vetted or asked any tough questions. Those who do ask the questions get labeled disinfo agents or debunkers. More has to be done to collect the best cases/evidence. Some of the abductee researchers are at least getting the "implants" tested.

5. Instead of attacking each other, authors and researchers should have a meeting and address the issues. Important ones as to collecting evidence and vetting whistleblowers should be on the top of the lists.

They (from UFO buffs to many groups out there) have been promising disclosure since the Jimmy Carter Presidency, and it has not happened yet. It is time to use the FOIA to get out as many documents dealing with all the agencies about UFOs.

It is time for us to take off the tin foil hats and get the mainstream scientists to join us in our search for answers.


reply posted on 15-10-2008 @ 02:03 PM by kidflash2008
reply to post by Vanitas



The term "community" is meant to involve researchers, authors, and persons who have experienced unexplained phenomena. It is not meant to detract or to put people in their own little place. Researchers are interested in answers, and for the most part are very serious as to how they do their jobs. The people who have experienced the phenomena want answers and don't want to be called crazy.

The problem is there are too many out there who will take advantage of people and their beliefs or experiences. While some believe they really can channel, many are in it for the money/publicity.

Hopefully this incident with Blossom Goodchild will get the researchers to come up with better criteria to sort out the bad stuff from the true cases.
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