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Are you ready to give up on 2012, and other prophecy?


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reply posted on 17-10-2008 @ 11:58 AM by PGTWEED


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Plan to see the movie: 'Watchmen'? That was the plot of the graphic novel by Alan Moore.



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reply posted on 17-10-2008 @ 12:11 PM by PGTWEED


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The birth of a pure Red Heifer will not bring about the end of the world. Finding the Kalal, vessel that contains the Ashes of the previous nine sacrificed Red Heifers, will not bring about the end of the world. People that despise Israel and the Jewish Scriptures are the ones making the claim a Red Heifers birth or discovery of the Ashes of the Red Heifer will bring about the end of the world.



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reply posted on 17-10-2008 @ 12:16 PM by PGTWEED


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You're talking about the Dominionists.



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reply posted on 17-10-2008 @ 12:34 PM by FrostForests


I don't think we are close enough to 2012 to comprehend what we might do to prepare yet. It's 4+ years off still! You think the theories and worry is bad now? Wait until 6 months before the date. Or even 1 month. Y2K anyone? It hasn't even started, but it'll be worse than what we've seen in recent past simply because the ideas keep growing, getting crazier...

But here's some food for thought-

"In one such case, an almanac published in 1499 by one Johannes Stoffler predicted that a planetary convergence on February 2, 1524, would cause a European reenactment of Noah's flood. As the date approached, as many as 137 pamphlets on the comming disaster were in circulation. The people of Toulouse, France, built and stocked enormous arks. The margrave of Brandenburg, Germany, collected a number of fellow citizens and retreated to the hilltop of Kreuberg, near Berlin-only to climb down again after it became clear that no flood would occur."



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reply posted on 17-10-2008 @ 02:18 PM by dave420


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Y2K was going to be a real event, though because it was accurately predicted (ie not by some nutjob channeling some kind of spirit/alien/David Icke, but by computer scientists who realised the issue) it was fixed before it became a massive issue. The damage it would have caused was mitigated.

It's strange how not a single person has ever provided a prediction through non-scientific means in a repeatable, reliable fashion. Until that happens, it's all bunk, and anyone who believes in these predictions is doing so not through logic or reason, but through some misguided desire for these abilities to be real.

It's sad.



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reply posted on 17-10-2008 @ 03:20 PM by PGTWEED


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Two men, one a Christian Pastor in America studying the Book Of Matthew, one an orthodox Rabbi in Israel studying the Book of Daniel both men predicted the outbreak of the Six Day War in 1967.



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reply posted on 17-10-2008 @ 04:58 PM by FrostForests


Originally posted by dave420
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Y2K was going to be a real event, though because it was accurately predicted (ie not by some nutjob channeling some kind of spirit/alien/David Icke, but by computer scientists who realised the issue) it was fixed before it became a massive issue. The damage it would have caused was mitigated.



Valid, but my point about Y2K was in reference to the way people will take the idea as a reality the coming months/weeks beforehand. People who one would think to be of sound mind a week before the event suddenly rushed into stores, grabbing all the water, batteries and canned goods they could afford, fighting old ladies over toilet paper. I think we can quite honestly expect far more insanity when 2012 rolls around because the hype surrounding it, as well as the expanse of time that the ideas have been around.



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reply posted on 18-10-2008 @ 03:39 AM by poet1b


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I have to admit, it sounds like a great concept. Sure I want more. I live for this stuff.

Sounds like synchronicity, as sang about by Sting. I have always thought that this had some legitimate concepts.

Personally, I think all these new wave ideologies/philosophies are every bit as legitimate as economics and psychology. That goes for astronomy as well.



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reply posted on 18-10-2008 @ 03:44 AM by poet1b


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I intend to get a copy of the Watchmen soon. I recently heard about this graphic novel, and it sounds like quite an excellent work.

Now, what is the red heifer reference all about?



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reply posted on 18-10-2008 @ 03:48 AM by poet1b


Imagine we all had a piece of the puzzle, and that if we could just put all those pieces together, we could all see the big picture.

Recognizing the true realities of any situation is what enables you to know what to do, and that is why...



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reply posted on 19-10-2008 @ 07:27 AM by trueforger


The concept of each one of us having a piece of the puzzle,none more important than another,is key.
Have you checked out evasius' stuff?He da man.BTW I rechecked the basis of my assertion of Dec 12 being a deviation from this course we're on, due to a discrepancy with a one of his statements that the date is Dec 10.I was mis reading my little screen and it is the 10th to be sure.With this sort of fuzzy pseudo science ya gotta get it right,eh?That way one sounds sincere and can fool the gullible.Or something NOT like that...Am I a trickster?Trueforger means that the extensively hammered bar is straight/true enough.Despite the texture and sectional alteration,it can still slip into a very tight place.Don't take my word for it see for yourself.Evasius has posted a bunch of graphs showing the now and near future to follow according to TWZ.



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reply posted on 19-10-2008 @ 06:27 PM by Ranger23


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One day it's gonna happen. So I'm just gonna wait and wait and wait...you get the idea



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reply posted on 20-10-2008 @ 08:03 AM by J.Smit


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I like your pick. EVE Online?



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reply posted on 20-10-2008 @ 12:52 PM by PGTWEED


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I only hope the Watchmen movie is a more faithfull adaptation of the book than League of Extrordinary Gentlemen film was of it's book. The Red Heifer reference is that everyone thinks it's birth will bring about the next apocalypse. (The Palestinians and Arabs don't want it to happen.)



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reply posted on 21-10-2008 @ 08:09 AM by doctorex


Originally posted by ZionOmega

Next BIG event will be the war that will descend upon Israel, first with Damascus (Syria) and then after, the war with Gog-Magog (Israel vs Russia-Turkey?-Iran) coalition. There are no dates to this as the bible does not give any, but the event will take place very soon. Just read the headlines and keep your ears perky.


Actually, the Gog magog war does not happen until 1000 years after the return of Christ...

REVELATION 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.



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reply posted on 21-10-2008 @ 10:20 PM by poet1b


So maybe a thousand years ago Christ returned, but he did not call himself Christ, maybe he called himself something else, like Arthur, and championed a concept such as justice and chivalry. Look at the last thousand years as we have evolved from the devine rights of Kings to representative government and the rights of man. A thousand years ago, we were smack dab in the middle of the dark ages, and in this thousand years we have reached the information age.

So maybe now is the time God releases Satan upon us, to see if we are now capable of dealing with his evil.



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reply posted on 22-10-2008 @ 06:18 PM by Adnaa


The October 14th prediction is merely a prediction made by one woman--The 2012 prediction has been predicted by the the Mayans, Egyptians, various psychics throughout time and was not created on a whim. Many conclusions about this time can be drawn from religious texts such as the Bible, the Quran and others, along with modern scientific reasoning there is sufficient evidence to say that 2012 is possible if not probable and that it is not a random modern conspiracy theory. So for people to write off all conspiracies, simply because the failure of some is ludicrous--and keep in mind that the conspiracies that have not become true are the modern ones, perpetuated by the media or self created by attention seekers, like Y2K which never made sense in the first place, along with others, but 2012 is an ancient prediction and should not be taken lightly. In conclusion the falsity of one prediction does not disprove all the others and each accusation should be studied thoroughly, because immediately writing off everything is obviously very close minded and through following that path no truth can be found. May we all find our truth and light.



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reply posted on 22-10-2008 @ 06:22 PM by Alienmindflare


I just wanna say a plain ole no

Blossom may have failed but she wasnt the one to start the gossip about 2012,,,actually who was?



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reply posted on 22-10-2008 @ 09:03 PM by doctorex


Originally posted by poet1b

So maybe a thousand years ago Christ returned, but he did not call himself Christ, maybe he called himself something else, like Arthur, and championed a concept such as justice and chivalry. Look at the last thousand years as we have evolved from the devine rights of Kings to representative government and the rights of man. A thousand years ago, we were smack dab in the middle of the dark ages, and in this thousand years we have reached the information age.

So maybe now is the time God releases Satan upon us, to see if we are now capable of dealing with his evil.


Because that is not what scripture says will happen when Christ returns. Was there a massive resurrection from the dead 1000 years ago? (Rev 20:5-6, 1Corinthians 15:21-25) Did Christ fight with these resurrected people beside him to destroy over 200 million strong armies gathered to fight him at Armageddon? (Rev 19:11-21, Rev 9, Rev 16:13-16, 1Thessalonians 3:13, Jude 1:14). Has Christ reigned with these resurrected people for the last 1000 years? (Rev 20:4-6) Has there been war and other forms of evil during the last 1000 years? (rev 20 1-4, Isaiah 2:4)) I could go on forever, but all this is yet to happen. Christ has not returned yet.



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reply posted on 12-11-2008 @ 05:34 PM by KIRKSTERUK


Originally posted by droid56
Blossom has failed, as has other apocalyptic prophecy over the past 2 decades.

Are you ready to give up predictions involving 2012?

What will it take for you to give up these ideas?

This reality we live in isn't going to change.


I have a prediction.

2012 will go by swimmingly. Doom-sayers will sit in New Years Eve on their own expecting an asteroid take us out. When 2013 dawns, these idiots will rename a new date, September 12th 2017, and continue their mentally challenged scare-mongering. Ad infinitum.



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