lol.. do you people see how theres somebody who thinks every type of view possible... to be niave or nieve enough to think that because this prediction didnt come true... means none of the other ones will... first of all, what u all should be prepared for... is for none of them to come true... think about that. where would u have to be to agree with that?? i understand this even comes as an upset... and its beautiful that thats what it is.... i was upset to find out it wasnt true. but remember... anyday these guys can make an appearance of themselves for us... anyday.. anything can happen.. you dont need the confirmation of other people... follow the god within yoursellves... do what you believe is right... thats the only way to learn from yourself... and progress.. from yourself..

Yikes, bible thumping much?

Ok I'll keep it kinda short. The statement that something works 100% of the time is a scientific falacy, if you want to be treated with respect and you want to deny ignorance, don't say 100% of the time.
Bible prophecy is incredibly open to interpertation usually, with Israel that's a good one but in Daniel there are so many things "bible scholars" tell us to think because the wording is so vague. AKA it can mean anything. I'm not trying to disprove the bible, not my game, just stating a fact. I once got someone to admit they thought mexican kids were angels because they had spinners, (angels riding upon wheels within wheels...).

GFL was always bogus and if you believed in it you should've learned not to be so gullible. I understand the hope for it and the timing, but really things like that just don't happen.

GFL can not be compared to 2012, people have studied this calendar and it's so much more advanced than our gregorian calendar it's insane. These people knew their astronomy and astrology.
On Dec. 21 2012 it wont be the end of the world or doomsday or anything like that, THAT is a creation and a falsity. All that 2012 means is that we're beginning to enter the age of aquarius, that's it. Now, given some very very strange things are happening astronomically speaking on that day so we'll probably notice maybe some atmospheric disturbances(?) guessing though.
How significant is this? Well, 2000 years ago we entered the age of pisces, the fish, Jesus fish ring a bell?
We probably wont notice any difference at all though becasue we're simply not as in tune as people were thousands of years ago to the earth and the sky. We don't care about them like the ancient people did, we don't build our monuments to be alligned with specific formations and constellations, we don't celebrate "equinox" or "solstice" (technically we do, most people don't recognize that however) and we dont hardly know what a pure sunrise even looks like. In other words, 2012 probably will be a big deal to hardcore astronomers, astrologers, and mystics. That's about it though.

I could be wrong, I'll still be having a massive party that day.
Not so short oh well.

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Originally posted by droid56
Blossom has failed, as has other apocalyptic prophecy over the past 2 decades.

Are you ready to give up predictions involving 2012?

What will it take for you to give up these ideas?

This reality we live in isn't going to change.

First of all, 2012 isn't an apocalyptic prophecy if you actually study it and look at the actual language it uses, it talks about the end of a cycle not of the world. I don't know how to respond to your comment about how this reality isn't going to change because I really just feel bad for you that your are so stuck in the old paradigm of consciousness. We have to understand that we create reality with every thought and we can change our thoughts anytime.

Peace

I would not put the GFL prediction on the same level as the 2012 prediction.

The whole 2012 event, although just speculation and conjecture at the present time, does have a respectable amount of scientific backing if you interpret it to suit your view.

One woman's psyhcic channelling's has absolutely no evidence whatsoeverother than her word for it. That's my opinion.

The Timewave Zero has been getting it right on the day for the past few weeks,predicting the when not the what of events bringing novelty into established habit,such as the most recent Oct 7 slide beginning.It showed nothing on yesterday's predicted UFO show,therefore was right about that one too.A major tennet in Christer fundamentalist dogma is that no man knows the hour of the second coming.Yet that is exactly what the Mayan calander claims to predict,the exact time of the apotheosis,as does the Timewave.One must chose either or,but not both.
I always thought that prophesy of the end times in the (various)bible(s) would look at least a little like what we see all around us,TV,cars,radio.airplanes,cell phones,etc and there is NONE OF THAT.
Therefore I say don't diss 2012 'till it's over and done.Meanwhile,deny ignorance

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If you deny that, than thats all on you.

Because apparently if you don't get "saved" you'll burn in the eternal fires of hell.

God is Love, anyone?

Had the predicitions in the book known as the Bible all been 100% accurate you'd see many more coverts wouldn't you? It's easy to retroactivley fit predicitons to events and that is all the Bible has been able to do.

Prediciton and prophecy have been with us since the beginning of written history. I admit, I too have believed a prediciotn or two in my life ( Y2K - Oh goodness was I embarrassed as my family and I ate canned goods for months afterwards).

As for 2012 - I don't know. The debunkers have done a damn good job. In the end, I DO beleive that eventually something will happen, I just don't know what?

Originally posted by droid56
Are you ready to give up on 2012, and other prophecy?
.

I give up on them the second I read them.
Seriously some of these people should be banned from the website.

I don't mean average "OK, I'll see what happens" people.

I mean the idiots who post this junk, defend it tooth and nail with name calling, insulting and "YOU'LL SEE" rants. When their bogus "prediction" doesn't come true they just move the goalpost back and bit and start the same old chant...

ATS justs lets them change the date and repost... it's disgusting.
You hear that ATS MODS? It's DISGUSTING.

They should be treated like Jim Jones and the insane brainwashers they are.

You can believe what you want to believe.. I am in favor of that, but to spread your own madness after it has been proven false is a friggin crime against humanity.


To top it off, anyone calling them out on it is labeled a hater, bigot or some other BS

Originally posted by logicalview


The whole 2012 event, although just speculation and conjecture at the present time, does have a respectable amount of scientific backing if you interpret it to suit your view.

!!! HOLY CRAP !!!

It does NOT have scientific backing.. are you that ignorant?
There is NO scientific backing for the "end of the world".

You statement breeds the kind of ignorance we need to stamp out.
It's like the blanket excuse.. "if you interpret it to suit your view." Thats BS!

I can interpret the cack of my ass to signify the universe will crack in half when I take a poo if I want to "intepret" it that way.. there certainly is scientific evidence to back me up on a crack opening for poop to flow.. so why not make the leap.. right.. right???

Don't laugh.. that's the "leap" some take to "intepret" 2012

It is amazing the lengths people will go to defend their beliefs.
In 2013 they will just recalculate and start over for 2024 or something.

I personally find prophecies to be generally useless for predicting the future. One of the main characteristics of any prophecy is that it can be interpreted broadly. Which is why I believe the intent usually to be to point out issues that we may face, to make us mindful of potential. They are most useful as guides, if used at all, not hard events.

Besides, even if the prophecy proves to be true, what would anyone do about it? If you believe it, the future must already be set. Therefore, the only thing to do is live life to whatever satisfaction you feel the need to fulfill. Which can be done without a deadline as well.


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[edit on 15-10-2008 by TravelerintheDark]

ZionOmega,

Please pardon my intrusion on this part and I have no issue with you or your beliefs but as Lucid quite rightly asked you; where's your evidence to support your statement that the Bible has been 100% correct on its predictions?

I'm only encouraging this for my own simple interests. It's just that you make a bold statement and I feel that it should support to some at least some degree of credibility however small or large that might be.