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posted on Apr, 25 2010 @ 04:39 PM
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Originally posted by The Quiet Storm
Any criminal, or gangster can treat a woman nice but that doesn't make him a good person.

Are women just so used to being with murderers, killers and cruel evil tyrnats that it's now part of their biology and their genetics to be this way?

[edit on 25-4-2010 by The Quiet Storm]


Do you remember this post in this thread of yours:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

It still applies dude... think about it. Who are you drawing to you and how/why are you?




posted on Apr, 25 2010 @ 04:43 PM
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well.

It still is possible that this sexual reality is enslaving humanity.

Also, just look at animals and how they have sex. MEn are always fighting each other for females. Therefore to them, murder and being being theives, tyrants, "baddasses" etc. is perfectly fine and justified, and humans may think the same way too believing it's 'nature'. And people eat meat so therefore the animals become part of you. Animals kill each other to live. But most people don't see anything wrong with this.

Well.. for one thing.. resources AREN'T as scarce as some animals have it, only TPTB make you believe they are. To keep us always acting in lack and to feed their 'industrial society' and keep themselves rich because they engineered this.

It has really bad effects on the society, and therefore it also makes the most cruelly dominant men the ones who survive, and therefore get the mates.

I'm not making all this up, if nothing was going on there would never be what you would call "self proclaimed nice guys" complaining about this. And they're just bitter yet you would call them "self proclaimed nice guys", and I dont really mean to come off as a moron.

It's just look at this! During middle school and high school the gangsters and criminals got all the girls, they liked it. Yea my neighborhood isn't that great but that's how it goes!

And poverty is everywhere!

The world runs on evil, or moreso a dualist society where people participate in evil because they love.

[edit on 25-4-2010 by The Quiet Storm]



posted on Apr, 25 2010 @ 05:05 PM
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the world isnt run by evil,its run by the most powerfull group united.
evil and good,its like in a videogame,you may feel suffering or good
but dont forget you dont live forever if u dont partipiate in some cloning experiment.
so you JUST NEED to be around good people like you,i know your angry now.
but what happens if you find a nice town when people are happy,and theres plenty of single girls to like you.
just dont come out too needy,keept it normal,let them know you the nice things about you slowly.
are you a good artist? cook? bodybuilder? racer? hacker?lover?
work on making your self better,self a goal and a plan to take care of the problems and have confidence in your self.



posted on Apr, 25 2010 @ 05:07 PM
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Originally posted by Stillalive
the world isnt run by evil,its run by the most powerfull group united.
evil and good,its like in a videogame,you may feel suffering or good
but dont forget you dont live forever if u dont partipiate in some cloning experiment.
so you JUST NEED to be around good people like you,i know your angry now.
but what happens if you find a nice town when people are happy,and theres plenty of single girls to like you.
just dont come out too needy,keept it normal,let them know you the nice things about you slowly.
are you a good artist? cook? bodybuilder? racer? hacker?lover?
work on making your self better,self a goal and a plan to take care of the problems and have confidence in your self.


people think that there wouldn't exist good without evil, so they justify being evil. That's bs, dualistic thinking.

[edit on 25-4-2010 by The Quiet Storm]



posted on Apr, 25 2010 @ 05:18 PM
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what i meant to say is to find a place where everything isnt NEGATIVE
here where i am everything is NEGATIVE,people are used to suffering,jealosy and backstabing.
here i see the badboys you talk about everyday.
how do you expect to find a nice girl,if she is influenced by living in such a city/country?

i guess the truth is teen girls can be easily attracted by easy macho tricks
mature women on the other hand want a man who can support and take care of them
but well some women never grow up,and man arent different.there are so many types
of humans thats its hard to explain

if you want some quick female attention
mayeb u should try bodybulding
im just trying to help you bro



posted on Apr, 25 2010 @ 05:21 PM
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This thread is one long 'LOL'




posted on Apr, 25 2010 @ 08:05 PM
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Originally posted by riley

Originally posted by Stillalive
and the thing about smiles. smile is like a JEDI POWA!

Do you like Jedi's still alive? Do they have more than one life?




LOL LOL LOL..Sorry but this is hilarious. I keep saying over and over..that some people are so far gone that they cannot relate to certain ideas or concepts outside of comparing it to some movie or television program they have watched. They have television/movie thoughts, television/movie emotions. Often thoughts and emotions which are not even their thought or emotions..but someone else's transplanted by a medium into their very souls.

I merely make note of it. Thanks.



The Quite Storm,


Also, just look at animals and how they have sex. MEn are always fighting each other for females.


Went to public school did you ..never got over it?? I went to public schools and have worked hard to get over it.

I never fight over women..period. If a woman doesn't want to stay with me ..there's the door..don't let it hit you on the way out. It pisses me off when a woman tries to increase her value to me by getting me to fight over her. I call this insecurity.
There are to many women out there to be shedding my blood and labor over them in this type of primordial manner.
It is a waste of my valuable time to fight over women in competition. To many of them out there. You need to do some thinking and get around that public school brainwashing and ask yourself what is wrong with the world out there as spoon fed to you.


It has really bad effects on the society, and therefore it also makes the most cruelly dominant men the ones who survive, and therefore get the mates.


Do not think for one moment that a woman cannot get over on you or control you to the point of dominance ...with just a sentence or two. Or shame you to the point of really making you look incredibly dumb. Usually this is because you have done half the work for her already in dumbness.
They just point out with a few words what is obvious.

Do you have any idea how many women there are out here who can easily get men to run touchdowns or goals for them at great risk to these men...then these very men bring the goodies to these women and children
while these men come in second third or last place.

Do not think for one minute that being a bad ass is all that it is cracked up to be. The jails are full of bad asses....so are the graveyards.

Do not ever underestimate the power of a woman to dominate..by subtlety almost unseen..just read about Mark Anthony..or Julius Caesar. How about Hillary Clinton. Power and the constructs of power are not all that it appears to be on the surface.

I am going to suggest a couple of books for you...beginning with this one..

Sex and Power in History by Amaury De Riencourt

Also I will suggest

Why Men are the Way They Are..
and
The Myth of Male Power

both of these by Warren Farrell.

But I doubt these books will help you break out of your one way thinking.
It is too deeply ingrained in you ...like a drug.

When you find the world or the things around you unacceptable...get off the bus...walk ..get your own ride.. Change the settings on your dial so that you don't have to jump to another tune...one in which you are not interested.
That way ...you are responsible for yourself...not miserable because of someone else's default settings imposed on you.

But above all..stop whining. NO woman is attracted to whining.
The way you whine..I don't think you would know a woman of real value if she was standing right next to you...you are so busy whining.
Women have enough maintenance issues of their own..do you think for one minute that a woman wants to take on your maintenance issues as a career..or does she want a man of confidence to help her with her's and the children's maintenance issues ?? Hence they want a man of confidence/ability..not a whiner. This also means a man who can stand his ground..even against her if necessary..not a man she can lead around by the nose or privates. Got it now??

Grow up dude!!

You have to much sex on your brain...women think this is their total province and domain..not yours..got it now?? And you reinforce this by your ignorance in much...about this world and women.

Wow!! You can lead a horse to water.......

Orangetom



posted on Apr, 25 2010 @ 09:13 PM
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I have noticed that friends with good bf's fall for the bad boy keep you on your toe kinda guys



posted on Apr, 25 2010 @ 09:27 PM
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Originally posted by prettygreeneyes26
I have noticed that friends with good bf's fall for the bad boy keep you on your toe kinda guys


yep.

they emulate pornstars and graphics in the mass media.

[edit on 25-4-2010 by The Quiet Storm]



posted on Apr, 25 2010 @ 09:31 PM
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and orangetom, I'm not replying to your offensive post. The only reason why girls like you is because you come off like a brute, girls like riley too.



[edit on 25-4-2010 by The Quiet Storm]



posted on Apr, 25 2010 @ 10:15 PM
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Women don't have as much testosterone. Testerone in them rises when they get horny, but I dont think as near as men's. When women have an excess of testosterone they start to act and look like men and are more aggressive.

It's the testosterone that drives people towards sex, and makes them aggressive ie horny, toward sex or so I've read.

But seriously.. look at sexual practices today. It's always associated with "bad" things.

Aggression is good. Sexyness is "naughty". Sexual foreplay = "being bad". A guy who doesn't care whether he offends a girl or not with the use of sexual or dirty jokes is a "bad boy". So being a perv is good. But that's messed up because on one hand, she can label any guy she wants a"real" perv, sicko, sociopath, call him on sexual harrassment and deem him immoral for doing something even less worse than the "badboy" who she'll get horny over because the guy knows how to tittilate her, to turn on her lust faculties and she'll stay on cloud 9 no matter what he does. It depends on how you say it right? Wrong! What you say is what you say sometimes, period!

Being "bad" is sexy. Being "naughty" is sexy. Being violent is sexy. Being cruel, is sexy. Being torturous is hot. Burning is hot. Agressiveness is hot.

Why women appeal to Brute Force
Why Women Appeal to Brute Force

Paleolithic Age."
weeklystandard.com...

"Not surprisingly, given that “head of the household” is a phrase that cannot be uttered in today’s egalitarian homes, many women satisfy their yearning for dominance by throwing themselves at bad boys or even worse. The very day, March 17, 2005, that Scott Peterson—sentenced to death in California for killing his wife and unborn son and throwing their remains into San Francisco Bay—took up residence on San Quentin’s death row, he received three-dozen phone calls from smitten women, including an 18-year-old who wanted to become his second wife. According to an April story in People, Peterson is still being flooded with letters from female admirers almost five years later, many of the mash notes containing checks to pay for his commissary charges. That’s par for the course on death row, where the rule is: The more notorious the killer, the more fan mail and marriage proposals. The most fan-mail-saturated killer in San Quentin is Richard Allen Davis, who in 1993 kidnapped 12-year-old Polly Klaas at knifepoint from her home in Petaluma, Calif., killed her, and buried her in a shallow grave."

Telling quote there.

I'm not making this up. There's something really bad going on, and not the sexy bad.


But actually, this is all probably due to the fact that people are not versed in TANTRIC SEX, and karezza, or more enlightened forms of practices, ie, the internal climax instead of ejaculatory. Not that it's wrong, but in excess (and way less than you probably thought can be excessive) Normal violent and ejaculatory orgasms can overtimulate the stress response in males, and traditional sexual practices can cause a weakening of love due to a massive drop in hormones and neurotransmitters right after violent orgasms or ejaculations. That's why certain men dont want to cuddle afterwards, or certain men feel extremely detatched after sex and women, who are more used to the internal climax are all like "WTF!?". That's also why love in a relationship dies after the initial lust stage. Don't get me wrong, women can feel just as detatched also, perhaps because of excessiveness as well, and excessive external forms of orgasm.

As per my friend DrewHempel, and other sources.. bonobo chimps are always having sex and they are peaceful, because they know how to utilize the internal climax. Also the females dominate their society, but that's their society anyway. Other chimps are always having territorial wars and fighting each other, raping their women whenever they dont give it up. The problem with humans tho is that they're used to the normal traditional form of orgasm for males, so they expect that, and they expect men to be all aggressive and violent, etc. They wouldn't have it any other way, they are used to that. So women are hardly attracted to the other man, except maybe when they get older, but still, and those men are rare and women don't usually understand it, because they want their man to be aggressive and overly dominant, to the point of it being kind of homosexual too, overly fascinated with the male aggression associated with the stimulation of a stress response.


Call me stupid but there's something going on and good men are suffering because of all this, and there are plenty of accounts to show it. It's not "whining" it's expression.

[edit on 25-4-2010 by The Quiet Storm]



posted on Apr, 26 2010 @ 01:30 AM
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YOU ARE NOT A NICE GUY. You are just jealous of men who actually get sex and have healthy romantic relationships with women. Enjoy your wallowing but please try limit the amount of whiney threads you inflict on us.

[edit on 26-4-2010 by riley]



posted on Apr, 26 2010 @ 01:34 AM
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Originally posted by The Quiet Storm
and orangetom, I'm not replying to your offensive post. The only reason why girls like you is because you come off like a brute, girls like riley too.

So now women turn lesbian for me because you think orangetom sounds like a brute? :shk:

Orangetom.
The jedi comment was in reference to a banned member.. I was testing a theory.



[edit on 26-4-2010 by riley]



posted on Apr, 26 2010 @ 09:35 AM
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Originally posted by The Quiet Storm
and orangetom, I'm not replying to your offensive post. The only reason why girls like you is because you come off like a brute, girls like riley too.



[edit on 25-4-2010 by The Quiet Storm]


The Quiet Storm,

I keep telling you to grow up Quiet Storm, This concept seems to go right over your head. Zooooooommmmmm!!!! Right past you.

You don't have to be a brute as you are describing with women. I do think you are correct in that some of them are like you are posting. I don't think all of them are. I keep telling you ...a good woman is a hard to find as is a good man. Both today are raised on artificial constructs..television and movies.,,,romance novels...romantic comedy's.

I have actually been told by a woman ..why was I not more like guys in a romantic comedy. What an insult..and I told her so. I take real risks for my monies..for my living. I am worth more than some woman's view of life as a romantic comedy. That is the best some woman can do for me...a romantic comedy?? This did not last long. She actually thought this concept of a romantic comedy was valuable and to be emulated..copied.
The was attempting to lead me..to her view of how the world should be.
Not happennig.

You don't have to be a brute The Quiet Storm, What you have to be able to do is stand your ground as a man..and not accept second place when you work for first place. If you are a man you can get first place without a woman. Ideally you would like to have first place with a woman.

I will not spend but so much time and or monies trying out for a woman's approval. Not interested in it. I don't try out ..like for a baseball team..this is not tryouts. Got it now??

As to Riley....the first mistake you make is calling Riley a girl. The proper term for Riley is a "Woman." Riley has alot more salt as a woman than you obviously have as a male. Notice I did not use the term "Man."
Do not misunderstand me here..I am not standing up for Riley. Riley is more than capable of doing so without my help and has been doing just that long before I came to ATS.

I genuinely do not believe you know the difference in a man and a male.
I can guarantee you ..a real woman knows the difference.

You lead women.. Quiet Storm...you don't dominate them. You LEAD them. Do you know the difference?? When they know you can properly LEAD...they will want to come to you.


Leading is not the appearance of a man..it is a man. Real men know this ..even men who have lead other men in hazardous occupations or duties where you can be killed or maimed for life.
Leading is also teaching The Quiet Storm...with understanding.
It is navigating the sea/land against all human frailties and ego...and reaching a goal. A very tall task for a good man..much less a mere male.

I tell you this The Quiet Storm because I know..not because I am better than anyone else. But because I have been out here awhile..not because I read it in some book...or television program or movie...but because I have lived it.

There comes a time in any males life...Quiet Storm ..when school is out. You turn off the television and movies..and step out on the limb and get it done. There is no safety net to be found under you. No one is coming to rescue you ..to flash dance you through your hardships. You have to get the task done and get back off the limb without falling. When you have done this enough..you begin to understand what is is to be a man among men...versus just another male.

It is no different with women. Whining works in neither of these applications. I should not have to tell you this.

As a proper man...you cannot live your life walking in fear and intimidation.

It is not that you don't have fears or insecurities..but you don't let them rule over you..you teach yourself to overcome them..to make them work for you. This is called DISCIPLINE. It is not being a wild animal.

We are not to be wild feral animals. Most of the males I know who tried to live the wild feral animal life are in jail or in graveyards and the their women are with someone else.

Something else..you need to know in perspective Quite Storm. A proper intelligent person..does not define who and what they are by sex/sexuality. You seem to have this on your brain alot..indicating a desperate "Oil Shortage" mentality.

Most thinking women show contempt for a male who has only "Oil Shortage" thinking on their brain and in their soul. If they so desire..they can easily use your "Oil Shortage" mentality to control you....just before dumping you by the roadside.

I am not arguing here against sexuality or sex..I am merely stating that people are so much more than sex/sexuality. If all you have is sex on the brain..I can see why women would show contempt for you.
I don't think this line of thought is within your capacity.

Orangetom





[edit on 26-4-2010 by orangetom1999]



posted on Apr, 26 2010 @ 03:15 PM
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I guess you dont understand what it is to be me. Women did not reject me for any of the reasons stated above. I never had male friends. Nor female.

Besides, it's not that hard to understand that being virgin at 24 for ANY real reason is hard to deal with , and the psychological and physical devastation on health it can be.



posted on Apr, 26 2010 @ 03:28 PM
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Definition of Nice:

1.
pleasing; agreeable; delightful: a nice visit.
2.
amiably pleasant; kind: They are always nice to strangers.
3.
characterized by, showing, or requiring great accuracy, precision, skill, tact, care, or delicacy: nice workmanship; a nice shot; a nice handling of a crisis.
6.
having or showing delicate, accurate perception: a nice sense of color.
7.
refined in manners, language, etc.: Nice people wouldn't do such things.
8.
virtuous; respectable; decorous: a nice girl.
9.
suitable or proper: That was not a nice remark.
10.
carefully neat in dress, habits, etc.
13.
Obsolete. coy, shy, or reluctant. .

People are brainwashed to think that nice actually means anything but it's own definition. Same with good.

The problem a 'nice guy' usually normally has is in being sexual with a girl. A guy usually will not be sexual because he is afraid, he was taught to be different and not treat women like sex objects. Even seductiveness is sexual.

Unfortunately, being sexual is what a lot of women desire and are seduced by. At least.. being raunchy in taste of humour. A lot of guys will not do that because they were taught to respect women or treat them 'unoffensively'.

It's very bad because one woman will call you a pervert, or a "nice guy" of course, in the deragatory meaning, and another guy who's even more of a pervert and not a nice guy whatsoever, nor good, and he's 'sexy' because of his raunchy vulgar and crude humor. And you would just call it "adult" behaviour.

Sick. When it's more like pornographic?

[edit on 26-4-2010 by The Quiet Storm]



posted on Apr, 26 2010 @ 09:30 PM
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seriously if a guy got agressive with me I would dump his ass and forget it, I have had mens hands raised to me before and walked.

I as a woman will not put up with it.
its not sexy its pathetic
there are plenty of ways to be sexy without being violent etc.

if you feel anger with sex then I suggest a problem.

just my thought



posted on Apr, 27 2010 @ 03:47 AM
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ok if you dont like aggression then you would like a guy who doesn't care about it at all. which is rather inhuman, but many guys are this way because for one they have already gotten laid in their life and are not virgins, and they know that women are after the guys who don't care... but is it honest? It's not.

And another thing, the reason why the 'bad boys' get the girls especially the ones who don't know anything other than traditional 'ejaculatory orgasms'... they know how to incite excessive passion and excessive sexual feelings in a female, ie of the animalistic lust with no love no chance of the internal climax... to the point where she feels mixed emotions, and confuses this with 'love'. It's not love, it's simply excessive passion.

He does this Without Remorse.

I think this one reason why some women will say one thing, and do another, because they are being led around mindlessly.

[edit on 27-4-2010 by The Quiet Storm]



posted on Apr, 27 2010 @ 04:18 AM
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I hate it that women break up with nice guys but I think women want a little challenge and nice guys don't do that.

Retain a little bit of mystery and things might improve for you - I hope so and good luck.



posted on Apr, 27 2010 @ 06:14 AM
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This is for educational purposes as this subject is turning this forum into a "Can't get layed" anti-woman whine fest which may make it uncomfortable for some women to continue posting.

..though I doubt this would sink in either.



www.heartless-bitches.com...All too often we hear self-professed "Nice Guys" complaining about why they can't get a date, and whining that women just want to date jerks, etc. etc. The truth of the matter is that there are genuinely caring, compassionate, decent, fun guys out there who have NO TROUBLE meeting people, getting dates, and having relationships.

Unfortunately, many of the guys who DO have trouble, insist that women don't want them because they are "too Nice". These people who call themselves "Nice Guys" can't see that THEIR OWN behavior is the problem. That behavior either drives women away or attracts the WORST kind of predator - one who is manipulative and self-serving. Whether it is targeting women who are troubled to begin with, setting themselves up to be taken advantage of, or acting in a manipulative, patronizing or obsequious fashion, these guys sabotage themselves and often blame "all women" for their misfortunes.

This section is devoted to the guys who suffer from that self-professed "Nice Guy" affliction. Here is the place to find out why YOUR behavior isn't as "Nice" as you think it is...



Why "Nice Guys" are often such LOSERS

Nice guys who put women on pedestals. By worshipping her, you objectify and demean her.

Nice guys who think they're the ONLY amateurs in the world at love, and that when a woman doesn't want to have anything to do with them, they're hateful, spiteful bitches who are experts at hurting poor, poor widdle innocent nice guys. Yep, we all read books on how to do it. All girls receive secret, expert instruction from their gym teachers, usually in 5th grade in most school districts, about the ins and outs of love, while the poor nice guys are left to fumble around with no clues.
Nice guys who are too STUPID to figure out any other way out of their so-called predicament except to conclude that they have to become woman-battering heavy drinkers and sports players.
-snip-

Nice guys who sit there passively waiting for life to happen to them, instead of actively pursing their goals and dreams.

Emphasis mine most obviously.

[edit on 27-4-2010 by riley]




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