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Again. I have not been attacking him so there is nothing to "weasel" out of.
We have already established that it is indeed whining.
I believe the problem is you are finnally starting to realize just how creepy you sound.
I have been answering his arguments which heA put forth and I have been sticking to the actual TOPIC despite BOTH OF YOU trying to derail it back to women bashing.
A reminder. The topic is about why "nice guys" get dumped:
I'm wondering what is it you will not allow Edrick?
How exactly are you going to enforce this ruling of yours..?
You quoted my post as being part of an attempt to gang up on TQS, thereby insinuating I was one of the culprits and he was one of the "nice guys" I was raving on about...
that's how you identified him, as one of the "nice guys"
and as long as you think I'm part of TPTB there is really no point in trying to reason with you, is there?
You said I'm susceptible to TPTB and am not consciously aware of it...
In any case, I think that's straying away from the original topic.
I agree with you though that there are many people out there willing to take advantage of kindness, because I have met them, and in cases where the male/female relationship has nothing to do with it.
There's more than one way to deal with that sort of thing though, without taking the whole world at ransom.
Do you see justice when you hear a story about a bullied kid shooting up half the school, taking with him not only his tormentors but those innocent to his personal suffering?
How about "nice guys" being bitter at the world after getting rejected by a few people?
If you really do feel the world is set against you, not sure what I or anyone else can do to help you?
Any point of view that diverges from yours will have no doubt been influenced by TPTB.
and Edrick, it's alright man don't bother yourself trying to defend me, though I appreciate it.
These people will just never get it.
I expected more from a Moderator.
Oh, and By the Way... isn't your Avatar that REALLY EVIL, and Deceptive character who worships death and power, and is sort of a "Racial Purist" from the Harry Potter Series?
I was not attacking TQS. My gripe was with the self-centered “nice guys” who think they’re better than what they call the “average sheeple” and think that the world, or particularly women in this case, owes them something.
Bad boys, it seems, really do get all the girls. Women might claim they want caring, thoughtful types but scientists have discovered what they really want – self-obsessed, lying psychopaths.
A study has found that men with the "dark triad" of traits – narcissism, thrill- seeking and deceitfulness – are likely to have a larger number of sexual affairs.
If people can see those traits within themselves, then that’s on them, if not, then well they’d have no reason to be offended.
It has to be said TQS wasn’t exactly respectful throughout his posts, particularly the older ones, and any criticism he received was probably in return for the criticism he dished out.
For what it’s worth I think TQS is genuinely a nice guy, albeit frustrated, which is understandable, but still no excuse to demonize all women and men who happen to be successful with women.
To answer your question, no, I don’t wholly trust the mass media
I do get your point about the HAVES derailing the HAVE NOTs, hey both population have messed up people, some HAVES are mean to HAVE NOTs for the heck of it, but some HAVE NOTs like to have a go at HAVES, too, whether or not they’re deserving of it, it seems.
Yeah, most people won’t take that lying down. I am civil and respectable as well.
I humored you and saw the video, not the first time I seen a video on the subject matter either. Well…it’s interesting. It does leave me with questions. I’m not convinced though, I can tell you why if you really want to know, but that would be deviating from the topic of this thread. U2U me or something.
Thinking you're special from everyone else, so special in fact that the most powerful organization in the world goes out of their way just to prevent you from reproducing, seems like a hell of stretch to me, and a self-centered way of looking at the world.
If they are all that powerful and wanted to stop you, they could easily have you assassinated (kinda like ‘jackals’ from the vid) , and what’s to stop them from keeping it covered up? You’re hardly an “important” person like their usual targets.
These perpetrators seem to be able to get away with anything anyway.
If you're really a nice guy, I'm rooting for you.
Yes, so either I'm a racist and evil, or I could simply be a fan of the films, anticipating the next installment...., and you are using a cartoon bunny...I fail to see the relevance.
As for pornography, it's a rather subjective subject. What is porn to one, is not necessarily porn to another...so you can't rely on a dictionary to define that which is subjective.
I’m sure you know who I’m talking about when I say “nice guys”
The “nice guys” are not really nice guys, hence the quotation marks.
“Nice guys” ARE deceptive, narcissistic, psychopaths, although they go about it a different way.
They like to think they’re nicer than they really are.
If you are that hung up about the idiom “nice guys”, feel free to substitute it with another term. I thought it was obvious what I meant. Looking at your last post, a lot of it hinges on this confusion.
Nice: pleasant or pleasing or agreeable in nature or appearance
decent: socially or conventionally correct; refined or virtuous
Guy: an informal term for a youth or man
Because women are not 'full', I mean they originate in Eve and Eve was created form Adam's rib. Lilith was/is the real woman. That's why women can never achieve full equality with men. Every man internally wants a complete woman like Lilith but since it's not possible, he marries a daughter of Eve.
Lilith (Hebrew: לילית) is a character in Jewish mythology, found earliest in the Babylonian Talmud, which is generally thought to be related to a class of female demons Līlīṯu in Mesopotamian texts. However, Lowell K. Handy (1997) notes that "Very little information has been found relating to the Akkadian and Babylonian view of these demons. Two sources of information previously used to define Lilith are both suspect."
In Jewish folklore, from the 8th-10th Century Alphabet of Ben Sira onwards Lilith becomes Adam's first wife, who was created at the same time and from the same earth as Adam. This legend was greatly developed during the Middle Ages, in the tradition of Aggadic midrashim, the Zohar and Jewish mysticism. In the 13th Century writings of Rabbi Isaac ben Jacob ha-Kohen, for example, Lilith left Adam after she refused to become subservient to him and then would not return to the Garden of Eden after she mated with archangel Samael. The resulting Lilith legend is still commonly used as source material in modern Western culture, literature, occultism, fantasy and horror.
Edrick, I'm sorry but Wikipedia proves 'wrong' everything that's being posted here on ATS, so I don't think it's really a credible source.
I don't think it's a turn off when guys are nice, but sometimes when a guy's only quality that makes me want to be around them is that they're nice, it just gets boring.
I mean, like others have said, I would rather be with someone who is funny and jokes with me, and isn't always too preoccupied with being nice to even joke around or tease me, really.
Sometimes it just gets boring being with someone who can't even be themselves because they are so worried about being nice or inoffensive.
Really, you shouldn't even have to try to be nice if you are with a person you actually like/genuinely get along with, you should just be able to be yourself, because if you are with someone that you belong with, you will just be nice because you act the way you want around that person, and obviously, if you really cared about them, you would be nice just because you appreciate who they are you know?
So I'd say stop 'trying' to be nice or labeling yourself that way, and just be yourself
and find someone that works with, and stop trying to be some macho guy who has tons of girls hanging off of them just because they make themselves unavailable and rude because they have some bitterness towards women who didn't like them.
If you could even consider acting like that to a girl who likes you, you were never a nice guy in the first place.