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Secret UN Meetings on ET Life Continue: Threats Used to Silence Diplomats

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posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 03:30 PM
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Secret UN Meetings on ET Life Continue: Threats Used to Silence Diplomats


www.opednews.com

Source A said further that the admiral in charge of the covert disclosure process revealed the talking points for the last two meetings held without Source A's attendance. These included the following:

"What if [extraterrestrial] spacecraft start making demands?"

1. "If they [extraterrestrials] do make demands, what should be our responses as a collective people?"
2. If the craft appear without any hostile intent, there should be agreement that no hostile action is taken by any nation.
3. That NATO should take whatever measures necessary to ensure no hostile response is taken in response to the appearance of any ETV occurs.
4. International Banking systems should keep operating with minimal disruption to economic systems.
5. How to ensure the global distribution of extraterrestrial knowledge and technology.
(visit the link for the full news article)




posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 03:30 PM
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Just a small snippet here from an interview with "Source A"

Allegedly a naval officer, who the author seems sure is genuine, gives disclosure information to Michael Salla, an exopolitics expert, about UN meetings on ET's and UFO activity.

There have over the course of these UN meetings, been threats made in order to ensure diplomatic silence, and the role of corporations has been discussed as well.

Please be sure to read the entire article.

Personally, when it comes to UFO's and ET's I have a pretty open mind.

The author seems to be well respected within his profession and has looked at the political implications of the information, as well as the credibility of "Source A"

I'd love to know what the learned members here on ATS think of this.

It strikes me as completely possible that this could be happening, and that the UN meets regularly to discuss the issues which may arise with regards to an open first contact or inter governmental dislosure.

www.opednews.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 03:45 PM
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I'm sorry but I don't buy any of this... and not because it isn't on my local news (I don't even own a television)... but it just doesn't seem likely.. who knows it could be true, .. but it doesn't seem like it, person A, dork B, words C, .. it's just a bunch of letters on a screen, and beyond that, even if they are talking about aliens and UFOs @ the UN, what ramifications does this have? ... none really.. if aliens and their craft (which would then be identified) appeared, who cares what a bunch of geriatric fruits think at the UN, we (the people of earth) should ALL have an equal say and an equal position to contact and communicate with them... I somehow doubt the aliens would care about the UN... lol

I didn't read the entire article which you recommended (I just got off of work, tired, although I plan on reading it)



posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 03:53 PM
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I am less skeptical.

Frankly, it is known that the US government has on several occasions commissioned certain think-tanks to examine potential scenarios for the potentiality of uncontrolled disclosure of this kind. It would seem quite logical to assume that a body of the scope and size of the UN would do so as well.

It has nothing to do with believing in 'little green men' and everything to do with maintaining control of the population.

As for threatening people into silence. I should think they wouldn't have to. You don't get to be a diplomatic asset to your nation by speaking without authorization to do so - those types don't last long in the trade of diplomacy.

On the other hand, dissemination by controlled 'leak' is commonly used.



posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 03:59 PM
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Didn't I read about this story on the openminds forums over there connected with the serpo.org website that we all know is a scam and a hoax?

I have a good memory, I'm going to say yes, that is where I read this, and no, I wouldn't trust it.



posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 04:00 PM
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For me , this bit makes the entire thing an obvious mistake, intended for western consumption, not something the UN would engage on :



...3. That NATO should take whatever measures necessary to ensure no hostile response is taken in response to the appearance of any ETV occurs. ...


Now, tell me, this is an UN meeting, and NATO should take the measures?

What leverage has NATO to ensure that it would be able to accomplish such a mission? How can NATO dictate what the Chinese or the Russians (for example) do, and how they react? NATO wouldn't even be able to control how the US (one of it's members) would react, let alone ensure that no hostile response was taken...

My verdict: Amateur conspiracy.



posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 04:05 PM
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Really?
You obviously give the UN more credit than I do.

I've always viewed them as a western puppet organisation - and let's not forget, that was one small snippet of the story.

Did you read the whole article?



posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 04:05 PM
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Extensive discussion of it here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...'

Also to LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal, Yes it was on Open Minds forum but associating all content on a particular forum with a hoax would preclude this forum and any other forum on the internet. Ufology is full of hoaxes and they can't be avoided only dealt with.



posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 04:07 PM
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i wish they'd focus less on themselves, and on our "well-being", and more on the future of humanity as a whole, and its positive progress - not the other way around! not only are they holding us back, but they seem to be interested most in how to send us off in the wrong direction! "they" don't want disclosure because it would mean the end of their little scheming plans to control and manipulate us...

us Earthlings are the only "aliens" that sell ourselves out and kill our own kind - we absolutely can NOT be trusted. we're also the only race that uses an economy. say goodbye to war and economics if E.T.'s intervene - freedom will come when the wolves starve to death!!!

[edit on 14-10-2008 by adrenochrome]



posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 04:12 PM
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Can you give us any more information about Michael Salla, the guy who authored this piece?

The only things I have found have been unverified wiki entries, self promotion and brief highlights of his other career.

The article also states:

I spent a total of 4.5 hours discussing the UN meetings and related issues with Source A, and others present. Source A was dressed in full US Navy uniform with identifying insignia including name and rank. He showed me his military I.D. which confirmed his name, rank and pay scale. His I.D. card was valid for a three year period and had a vertical barcode on the left hand side next to his photo.

He subsequently showed me an album filled with photos, military patches and cards that represented his various assignments and awards since first joining the US Navy in the 1960s. He explained each of the pages inside of his album to all present. The material he showed conclusively proved that he was an electronics warfare specialist with the US Navy. With all the documentation presented and his full dress Navy uniform, it was clear that he is a serving US Navy officer willing to discuss sensitive information concerning UFOs and extraterrestrial life. From his careful and precise choice of language, clarity of expression, demeanor, eye-contact and other non-verbal cues, Source A appeared very personable and sincere in the information he was disclosing.

Source A said that as far as his military superiors in the normal chain of command are concerned, they are aware of his role in leaking sensitive information. They have a tacit policy of not wanting to know what he is doing, and are not taking action to prevent him disclosing the sensitive information. It was understood that getting national media exposure would force the Navy to take disciplinary action. That is one of the main reasons why the identity of Source A has not been publicly released. He has however agreed to be physically interviewed and shown his credentials to the following researchers: Clay and Shawn Pickering, Bob Vanderclock, Robert Morningstar, Dr Bruce Maccabee, two other unnamed researchers, and most recently myself on October 8.

source

Of course there remains the possibility of a hoax, as always, but the tone of the article and the "proof" put forth by Source A are worthy of investigation IMO.

I'd also like to know if the other researchers mentioned can be considered credible - I ask because I have little experience in this area, although that doesn't mean I'm not interested


[edit on 14/10/2008 by budski]



posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 04:12 PM
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Sorry, but while you have no trouble dismissing this, I see every reason that this should be going on right now. In the last few years ufo sightings have been on the rise at a fast and steady pace. Many more people around the world are starting to question what they have been told is truth, and they are seeking their own answers. On top of that you have major partial disclosures (partial is IMHO becasue i still havn't read anyhting that says "we met with with ET and discussed this and he gave us X") by several governments including France, and the UK.

If there was a better time to be holding "secret" meetings about ET and a possible inter-governement disclosure, tell me, becasue i think it's now.

Lets face it, there has been more ufo activity focussed on by the mainstreem lately more than any time i can remember. At least once a month you see a Larry King special with a UFO "expert" panel. And the Stephonsville mass sighting was covered for at least 2 weeks solid.

To further add:


Source A was dressed in full US Navy uniform with identifying insignia including name and rank. He showed me his military I.D. which confirmed his name, rank and pay scale. His I.D. card was valid for a three year period and had a vertical barcode on the left hand side next to his photo.


and,


He subsequently showed me an album filled with photos, military patches and cards that represented his various assignments and awards since first joining the US Navy in the 1960s. He explained each of the pages inside of his album to all present. The material he showed conclusively proved that he was an electronics warfare specialist with the US Navy. With all the documentation presented and his full dress Navy uniform, it was clear that he is a serving US Navy officer willing to discuss sensitive information concerning UFOs and extraterrestrial life. From his careful and precise choice of language, clarity of expression, demeanor, eye-contact and other non-verbal cues, Source A appeared very personable and sincere in the information he was disclosing.


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If we take this article at face value, there is a high ranking Navy official who is UNDER ORDERS to leak information. This is a well known tactic by governement around the world. Take a man who is high ranking and very close to the action and have him leak certain information to the press and see how it is responded to. Possotive response= possible further disclosure through the controlled leaks. Neggative response= more disclosure through controlled leaks becuase govt. knows the people will not believe it any way. I dunn, those last two examples were just hypothesis.

If this article is true it doesn't surprise me at all. Even more to the point is reactions like Pure Energy is probably what they expect to hear from the general poppulace who wouldnt believe that ET was real if they knocked on the door and had dinner with the family. Leaving them open to leak any information they want without fear that the people could give a damn about anyhting they are doing.



posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 04:18 PM
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Thank you for posting that. I read the whole article. I Just have a question and a thought. The UN is meeting to disclose UFO/Extraterre. to the world. The meeting consist of almost every country to talk about this. I thought that the gov't knew there were UFO/Ext. even the article talked about a meeting with Pres & Extraterrestials. some things in the article make you question, I guess not every country knows there are UFO's. Japan knows. If we have contact with UFO/Aliens then why would there be hostility towards them if we already talk to them. I guess other countries dont have contact. Why is China so against it as well other countries. And the remark about them being Hostile to humanity. It doesnt seem like military, gov't know very much about them. Maybe they dont and thats why its been such a big secret. They are trying to figure it all out also.



posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 04:29 PM
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That I agree with you said but it does not resonate with the actuality of the matter. On this forum we don't promote hoaxes nor do we orchestrate them as a whole as was done at serpo.org and from its owners and then followed through with discussion on the forums of openminds, and from what I understand that's where this story originated. It's where I first heard of it at least and they were doing "interviews and meetings" with a source that knew this source and then doing radio shows about it.

My earnest opinion is that this is nothing more than proomo publicity stunts, nothing different than the Blossom Goodchild promo. Enjoy the ride, nothing will come of it.

I would personally only trust people that are honest in everything that they do and sources that I can verify.



posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 04:34 PM
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This makes me laugh, because The US has done exactly the opposite of what the UN thinks we should do...

Surely there are delagates from Sudan and Indonesia lol, that would really like "equal distribution of UFO technology"

But good look considering we shot the first one down over 60 years ago, kept the technolgy as best we could decipher it and kept it a secret the whole time



posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 04:48 PM
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Completely undocumented, "alleged" sources.....from who and where?

Seriously?



posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 05:05 PM
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2 questions.

Did you read the article?

Would you seriously expect someone from the navy tasked with helping to leak this to give name, rank and serial number?




posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 05:24 PM
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Wow I wish I could write like you you either got it or you haven't and I haven't. Excellent post very clear and concise. Well done.

Great thead by the way OP. There is no doubt in my mind that our governments are panicking and not just because of their involvement in the NWO/ OWB (One World Bank) but in regards to recent ET activity.

As more people are waking up and questioning what they have been told the more the governments will make mistakes and slip up, it happening already take the Iraq war and 911. Over the next 3 years people will be learning from documentary channels and from radio channels, magazines all about the mayans and the 2012 prophecy, they will learn what we already know and they will start to ask questions to which the government will keep quiet and carry on saying the same old lines, we don't acknowledge UFO or any ET activity. This will cause many to question their own faith in the people that are supposed to be helping us. More and more people are joining sites like this, the questions you have to ask is why are they, ad who is making us all wake up? this is the main fundemental question, who is helping us wake up, why are we waking up?

It makes me laugh (in a sombre sense) to think that our fractured governments and organisations, the bigwigs behind the big oak conference tables, really think they can apply human logic and even have the audacity to think that they are able to outsmart a non terrestrial outside threat. Whose inhabitants could quite possibly be hundreds of years more advanced than us. Not just in the technological sense either.



posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 05:28 PM
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Originally posted by mopusvindictus
But good look considering we shot the first one down over 60 years ago, kept the technolgy as best we could decipher it and kept it a secret the whole time


Thats not strictly true actually, what alot of people forget is that Russia had very many sightings in the early 1900 and carried on for over 60 years. I belive they have had ET involvement for just as many years as the USA. Its just that the US budget was alot bigger at that time which allowed black projects to be undertaken and the technology back engineered faster.



posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 07:24 PM
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Michael Salla does not strike me as especially trust worthy, but then this did not originate from Michael Salla although he ahs been involved from the start as his website, Exopolitics, broke the original story. Exopolitics is an organisation like many in Ufology that has done some good things and been involved with some seedy things and people too.

Clay and Shaun Pickering are the two researchers who first started communicating with this source several years ago. They then sent a story to Michael Salla on the 11th of February about UN meetings to be posted on the 12th after they had been done. Since that time they have gotten other researchers involved as listed in the article. These researchers I find extremely credible such as Bruce Maccabee and trust their judgements.

Yet the best they have been able to offer is that the Source A is who he says he is and has not been able to verify the data he has been giving. The thing is if the information leaked is verified it blows the lid on this and either Source A disappears forever or is discredited. I would say that it is still too early for the UN to be lifting UFO secrecy as not enough preparations have been done on a global level.

All in all I would tend to believe this rather than dismiss it, but I have seen no proof. I tend to believe the researchers involved and the material presented as highly believable given the information provided on these meetings.

Finally you can try and link this with Serpo all you want but the people involved are different, the only thing the same is the forum. Judge this case on it's merits or you might miss something important.



posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 07:37 PM
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I have a tendency to beleive this. There's way too much going on in our skies all over the world, inexplicable things and i dont see how "they" can ignore it any longer.

If this is true this is getting very very close to disclosure, this is certainly an implication that there is life out there.



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