Obama Born In Kenya? His Grandmother Says Yes, page 9
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reply posted on 14-10-2008 @ 07:26 PM by Sublime620
reply to post by swdecord



While I am sure many have seen his original, you are not privy to it. People don't just go around handing out their entire, original birth certificate to the public.

[edit on 14-10-2008 by Sublime620]



reply posted on 14-10-2008 @ 07:40 PM by Sonya610
reply to post by MissysWorld



Interesting video! Thanks for posting it.

Though of course even if he is not a natural born U.S. Citizen, and even if that means that an Obama presidency would violate the U.S. Constitution, it seems his supporters wouldn't care in the least!

He is ABOVE all that piddly Constitutional stuff!


reply posted on 14-10-2008 @ 07:44 PM by Areal51
reply to post by swdecord



I didn't question whether the document was typewritten. And I clearly pointed to the fact that it is a computer printout.

Regardless, Helvetica was released four years before Obama was born. A fact that you initially denied.


reply posted on 14-10-2008 @ 07:51 PM by swdecord
Originally posted by Sublime620
reply to
post by swdecord



While I am sure many have seen his original, you are not privy to it. People don't just go around handing out their entire, original birth certificate to the public.

[edit on 14-10-2008 by Sublime620]


Not true....

this is from the "official" HI Registrar's website...

Procedure for Requesting Apostille or Certification
1. Complete, sign and submit the Application for Apostille or Certification of Documents.

2. Persons born, married or divorced in the State of Hawaii, must request a certified copy
that displays the ORIGINAL SIGNATURE (not a stamped signature) from the State
Registrar of the Department of Health. Submit your request and specify what country your document(s) are bound for, along with a check, money order or cashier’s check for $10.00 per document to the Department of Health, Vital Records, P.O. Box 3378, Honolulu, Hawaii 96801, (808) 586-4539.(Birth Certificates and Marriage Certificates can only be notarized by the Dept.of Health,Vital Records).

3. All documents must be notarized by a duly commissioned Notary Public of the State of Hawaii.

4. For document(s) requiring Certification, submit document(s) to the First Circuit for verification of the notary’s signature and commission. Send your documents along with a money order or cashier’s check for $3.00 per document to the First Circuit Court, Legal Documents Section, 777 Punchbowl Street, Honolulu, Hawaii 96813, (808) 539-4300.

5. All documents must be forwarded to the Office of the Lt.Governor for issuance of an Apostille or Certification. Send your documents and specify what country your documents are bound for, along with a check, money order or cashier’s check for $1.00 per document to the Office of the Lt.Governor, State Capitol, 5th Floor, Honolulu, Hawaii 96813.

6. Please allow approximately one week for processing time.

7. The Office of the Lieutenant Governor reserves the right to deny applications for Apostilles or Certifications.

If you have any questions, please contact the Office of the Lt.Governor at (808) 586-0255.



hawaii.gov...

And if you type into Google "birth certificates public documents hawaii" you will find "commercial" sites that offer the document for a fee...



reply posted on 14-10-2008 @ 08:07 PM by rapinbatsisaltherage
reply to post by clay2 baraka



There is no source


Thanks for pointing this out, I’d give you ten stars if I could. I hope this thread gets closed. The quote isn’t real, and it seems the OP didn’t take the time to find out if it was accurate or not.


reply posted on 14-10-2008 @ 08:22 PM by swdecord
Originally posted by Areal51
reply to
post by swdecord



I didn't question whether the document was typewritten. And I clearly pointed to the fact that it is a computer printout.

Regardless, Helvetica was released four years before Obama was born. A fact that you initially denied.


Okay, I was wrong to bring up the font issue, as I am not an expert regarding fonts...

I was attempting to point out that the birth certificate is a "recent" reproduction, not the original...

Do I really think that Obama is not a "Naturalized Citizen?"

No, not really...But, as I am new to this discrepancy, I am interested as to why he is having problems producing an original birth certificate...

Will this be an actual issue in the election?

Nope...

But, I do like the debate
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