Class surprises lesbian teacher on wedding day , page 2

reply to post by TKainZero

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I'd rather indoctrinate them to support gays then to discriminate against them and hold prejudice against them, which you are obviously for.

Intolerance is still prejudice. But hey, lets try and ban everything thats not socially acceptable. Hunting in this part of new jersey is very unpopular and MANY believe it is morally wrong. Lets ban it, because the majority think its not right.

Lets just ban everything that the majority don't like, set a real good example for our kids. Let them know the joys of intolerance. Good plan TK.

[edit on 13-10-2008 by grimreaper797]

reply to post by greeneyedleo

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What's wrong with that? The purpose of field trips is to help children understand the world around them. Merely keeping them in school will not educate them on what happens in the outside world.

Granted, not everything that occurs outside of school is meant to shown to children, but this wedding was far from harmful.

To them, they only saw two people in love ... and maybe a cake

[edit on 13-10-2008 by DJMessiah]

reply to post by burdman30ott6

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Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. That is fine and good.

What I don't get, though, is how up in arms people get over a situation that has nothing at all to do with them, a situation that does not effect them or their families at all.

If I am wrong, correct me, but this did not effect any of us directly. This did not effect any of our families or children directly. So, why are people so freaking upset about it?

The parents arranged this, gave permission for it, and in some cases, went to the ceremony with their children. Why is it any of anyone else's business? I doubt seeing a wedding ceremony between two people in love and eating cake (which I am sure had more of an impact on the kids than the ceremony did....I mean, what kid doesn't love cake?) is going to scar these children for life.



[edit on 10/13/2008 by skeptic1]

reply to post by burdman30ott6

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Ripping into somebodies opinion, and saying you are damaging kids because you are a homosexual and their parents brought them to the wedding...slightly different.

Ripping into somebodies opinion will only help them in the long term. It will test their patience and reasoning ability. Spouting off about how kids get damaged by homosexuality in society, well, that proves the lack of reasoning without even needing an opposing argument.

reply to post by skeptic1

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I am all for these parents making whatever decision they wished to make in this case. However, I also understand the sentiment that it is damaging for a child to see a gay marriage because of several factors...
1. It is still illegal in this country. I wouldn't approve of children watching someone shoot heroin on a field trip, so why would I support them watching this federally illegal action?
2. I believe it is immoral. Notice I emphasized the 'I'. I do not support it nor condone it. Doesn't mean I'm opposed to the parents making this choice in this case. It just mean I, personally, would not allow my children to attend this in any way shape or form. Likewise, I have no intention of putting my kids in any school that tries to legitimize homosexual behavior. Again, if other parents desire that their kids learn this, their kids, their choice.

I fully support and believe in parents' rights. As in a parent has the right to teach their own child, including teaching them right from wrong so long as that child is not physically or psychologically abused. I wouldn't make the argument that teaching a kid that homosexuality is "natural" or "normal" is abuse, nor di I accept that teaching them it is unnatural and amoral is abuse. Just different sides of the coin. Much like teaching them Jesus saves or Allah is great. But I believe those choices should be left solely to the parents. The problem here is precidents get set and, before you know it, we have public schools teaching about Adam and Steve (which they already do) and THAT I have major problems with because suddenly my rights as a parent to indoctrinate my child the way I see fit have been taken from me. (and yes, virtually any and all moral teachings from both the amoral schools and moral parents are forms of indoctrination. Hell, even teaching a kid to use a toilet rather than a diaper is indoctrinating them on bathroom habits.)

reply to post by greeneyedleo

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Oh I understood you were not saying this was a 'straight' or 'gay' issue.

Still, you're saying trips to the pumpkin patch, the zoo, and aquariums are school appropriate but not weddings?

Ultimately I think it comes down to the fact that all these come with a permission slip, a nod of approval from the parents saying 'yes, i would like my child to experience that'. Ultimately it's the individual parents deciding if it's school appropriate, whether it's the zoo, a musical, or a wedding.

I assume you would not have signed this particular permission slip? That's good. I think parents should have that power. They know better then the schools, usually.

Originally posted by burdman30ott6
reply to post by skeptic1

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1. It is still illegal in this country. I wouldn't approve of children watching someone shoot heroin on a field trip, so why would I support them watching this federally illegal action?

One small point It is legal in the State of California and I belive that this type of issue is a States rights case.

reply to post by burdman30ott6

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Its federally illegal? I just thought it wasn't a protected right federally. Some states have it as legal. Can I get a link showing where its federally illegal?(don't bother, since its not federally illegal, its just no protected federally. Which means a state can ban it and the federal government won't interfer.)

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