You sound as if a third of Americans were not paying taxes who should be. Ridiculous. Everyone is taxed who makes over something like $8,000 unless they have children. And if the have children, they are spending a lot more on their children than they are saving in taxes! If you are single and make something like $15,000 a year you are just plain screwed and have to pay a lot of taxes. -- $15,000 --. To tax someone who makes so little is ridiculous. I don't at all believe your statistics. I'd much rather believe the IRS's tax statements which are quite clear the single exemption is a tiny $8,000 (roughly). And that roughly $500+ tax on a $15,000 salary does not include state taxes, sales taxes, local taxes, government fees, government fines, and mandatory government services like tolls on the toll-ways. Talk about criminal negligence to allow that.

Taxes should be on income over what is absolutely necessary to live. Any less and you are doing a moral wrong by taking away someones needs.

Taking without asking is stealing. Taxes involve taking without asking, so taxes are stealing. If we are going to steal from people in the name of the law, the least we could do is only steal from people who are not going to suffer extreme consequences from the loss of wealth. Personally I do not have health insurance because I cannot afford it. Yet I have to pay quite a lot of taxes. That is absolutely sick and pathetic in my opinion.

Now a lot of people say... oh its poor people's own fault they are poor. What a pack of lies. No. Some people are literally stupid and some people are plainly unlucky. And some people made bad decisions such as not graduating high school or college, but in fact educations are dramatically over-rated and half of jobs requiring a college degree (or more than half) don't actually use anything of the knowledge the degree requires, at least in the US.

I don't blame Obama or McCain, I blame the system. The reason why they are in the position they're in is because both believe they're making the right decision for America with the options that are currently in place. Remember, if there was no Fed Reserve, there would be no deficit. If there was no deficit, there would be no need to tax. If there's no tax, there's no inflation. So based on this logic, I would say that since the Fed system has been set in place, anyone who tries to come up with a tax system that will work for everyone will be kidding themselves. If you people have a better way, please let the masses know. Let your Congressmen know, Hell, let somebody know, because up til this point I don't believe there's been a single President who has successfully been able to properly disseminate the system. The last one who tried (Kennedy) got assassinated. I'm all about exposing problems, but my thing is, don't point out the problem without pointing out the solution because if you only point out the problem, you're not helping, you're only contributing to the problem. So people, let's try to take this approach toward problems:

Step 1. Point out the Problem
Step 2. Propose a workable solution to the problem.

Doing stuff like this is what's going to help fix America. If we keep doing the same things, we will keep getting the same results. That's not my idea of America's future. I don't know about anyone else, but I like to see progress and positive change. Let's do ourselves a favor and start adjusting our paradigms to reflect more of what we want instead of focusing on what we don't like or don't want.

As a matter of fact, it would probably be better to just skip step one and go straight to step two ideally.

[edit on 10/15/2008 by Mr Knowledge]

Take from the people who have worked hard to be successful and give it to others who have refused to help themselves to a better life

Money should never dictate the quality of someone's life.

I'll never be rich because I'll never be greedy. Only the greedy and self serving get rich. Society is about helping out each other as a whole, not a competition to see who can get to the top.

Rich people don't work hard, and never had. Until you live life day in and day out suffering until you die, watching your people and homeland be torn apart by corporations... you've never worked hard.

Greed is a crime that this "Christian" nation decided not to include within the laws.

Originally posted by nyk537
The entire tax proposal is a disaster of massive proportions.

So is capitalism. The Janitor cleaning the CEO's floors should be paid better than he is currently rather than some elitist guy making 5, 10, 100 million a year.

It is high time the middle class takes back what has been looted by the elite in this Country and world. I believe President Obama will do just that. I must admit however I used to like John Mcain until he remade himself into Bush 3 in an attempt to get elected. I think we have two people who both would make decent Presidents especially in the shadow of the disastrous Bush administration.

Only people who genuinely create something like Bill gates did deserve to be that disgustingly wealthy.

Stop being filthy pigs and we all can live a happier and healthier life.

Originally posted by truthquest
Using your very popular theory, I would expect those born in Ukraine to be equally as well off as those born in the US.

I'm sorry. Did I miss something? Obama is running for President of the Ukraine?

The Ukraine and the US are two different political systems, etc. Apples and Oranges. Try again.