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Originally posted by Constitutional Scholar
reply to post by ATruGod
And what happens when you cannot make the payment? Foreclosure. Then you are screwed again, but I guess it would be the banks fault for kicking you out huh?
Walking away fro the down payment might have been hard, but it would have been the SMARTER thing to do.
I was in a similar situation with a car purchase. I was stuck too. About 10 years ago I was driving a piece of crap truck. I was thinking of buying a new one before the old one started to die, but hadnt really pursued the idea much.
Anyways, on the way home from work one day, the truck started to die. Coincidentally I was passing a car dealership. I pulled in and the truck died. Not a mere breakdown, but certain death of that piece of crap.
I found a truck I liked, they gave the initial terms and the payment was affordable.
After the usual runaround, they came back with a payment of $110 more than the first amount. I knew I couldnt afford that, but I too was stuck.
Know what I did?
I walked home 10 miles that night. Not fun, but better than signing a contract to buy something I could not afford.
Originally posted by Constitutional Scholar
If it took you 10 years to save 12k, perhaps you couldnt afford that house anyways.
12k is nothing in the grand scheme of things.
Originally posted by Constitutional Scholar
reply to post by chickenshoes
Actually, yes I do have children. A 10 month old.
Times are tough no doubt, but its definitely not impossible.
I was the definition of poor. Got out of the Army, no civilian job skills. Worked crap jobs in construction and I literally pulled pennies out of my couch cushion to buy ramen noodles for dinner.
I got tired of Ramen for dinner and decided to dedicate myself to actually making something out of a bad situation.
Worked 2 jobs (60-70 hours) per week. Got tired of busting my ass to make other people money.
It can be done, but its not easy. Making excuses and blaming others is easy.
Have you sat down and done the math? Would it be more beneficial for you to work 2 jobs while your wife stays home with the kids? Or does she make more, and would it be better for her to work 2 jobs while you stay home?
Struggle is part of life, and unless someone tore up your insurance policy and set your house on fire, there is no one to blame.
Economies rise and fall, thats why thinking head is a necessity. Some people arent meant to own a home (like trugod). Nothing wrong with renting, but people want that fable known as "the American dream".
No one is entitled to own a home. No one is entitled to help you own a home. If you can afford it, fine buy a freakin house. But dont buy one until you have 100% sure you can afford it, even in bad times.
Incidentally, how long have you been in this situation?
[edit on 15-10-2008 by Constitutional Scholar]
Originally posted by Constitutional Scholar
reply to post by mecheng
Have those specific laws that were violated in regards to the war?
Originally posted by ferretman2
www.breitbart.tv...
Obama: "It's not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody that is behind you, that they have a chance for success too."
Obama is on record now that he wants to redistribute wealth. Take from the people who have worked hard to be successful and give it to others who have refused to help themselves to a better life.
[edit on 13-10-2008 by ferretman2]
John McCain's plan to address the ailing economy includes a big cut in the capital gains tax rate, from 15% to 7.5% for the next two years.
The vast majority of realized capital gains--that's the money you make, for example, when you sell a stock for more than you paid for it--go the richest families, so they're the ones who benefit from this. The good number crunchers at the Tax Policy Center examined who would benefit from the McCain proposal. The middle fifth of families end up with all of 0.2% of the benefits. That's not a typo. The tax break would lower their annual tax bill by $4.00. OK, that is a gallon of gas, but it's not what you'd call a game-changer.
The top 20% end up with 98.3% of the benefits of the cut, and the top 1%, with income above $600,000 get 75% of the gains, for an average benefit of $37,600. The average tax savings for the top 0.1%--income above $3 mil--is $244,000. In other words, this isn't a recipe for helping families hurt by the financial crisis and the recession. It's a recipe for more income inequality.
Originally posted by wonkamaniac
One more point before I crash and burn (sleep)...
Funny how all of these "Constitutional Scholars" always ignore the famous line in the preamble that specifically states that "We the People..." will "promote the General Welfare..."
That specifically means that it is the Government's job to take care of the People. We're not asking for handouts, we're asking for accountability. If I have to balance my checkbook on a daily basis and live within my means, then the Global Corporations should be expected to be every bit as responsible as I have to be. Far too long have the lobbyists written the laws in their favor. The free ride is over.
Funny how the same Corporations that not only sponsored, but actually WROTE the bill that makes it almost impossible for the average citizen to declare bankruptcy and possibly get a fresh start are now themselves declaring bankruptcy left and right.
Accountability... That's all I'm asking for. I'm held accountable if I get myself in debt. It should be no different for these losers who are gambling with money that does not exist.
Enough said.