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posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 11:02 AM
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Yet YOU signed the contract.

So you want to blame everything and everyone but yourself.

Personal responsibility is lost on people these days.

YOU signed. YOU are responsible.




posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 11:02 AM
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reply to post by Constitutional Scholar
 


You mean the deal that saved us from the Great Depression that started under a Republican President? Yeah, real bad there...



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 11:03 AM
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How have you personally been victimized by the corruption?

Have those specific laws that were violated in regards to the war?



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 11:03 AM
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Yea, it was such a great deal FDR had to stack the court in order to get it passed.

I bet he would be proud now



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by Constitutional Scholar
reply to post by ATruGod
 


Yet YOU signed the contract.

So you want to blame everything and everyone but yourself.

Personal responsibility is lost on people these days.

YOU signed. YOU are responsible.


What a crappy thing to say.

So what I'm supposed to walk away from what I've busted my A$$ for? My investment and everything?

Where the hell was I suppose to go everything I had was tied up in the deal. They change the terms in the last minute and I'm the bad one, the dumb one for signing?

I was suppose to let them rob me blind?

With attitudes like your I swear to your God I hope this world blows up in a blaze of glory.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 11:09 AM
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Originally posted by Constitutional Scholar
reply to post by lushyslushy
 


Allow me to be the ahole here.

Why dont you get a 2nd job?


Jeez... nice.
Why not just come out and admit that you're a lower than pond scum individualist.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 11:12 AM
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YOU signed the contract under the different terms dictating a different payment.

YOU agreed to pay an extra $250 more per month.

YOU knew in advance it was going to be more expensive than you originally planned on, yet YOU signed anyways.


Why not go buy a Lamborghini? Since the payments mean nothing to you anyways, buy it, then whine some more that you should get to keep it even though you cannot pay for it.

With people like you out there, its no wonder our economy is in the crapper.

[edit on 15-10-2008 by Constitutional Scholar]



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 11:13 AM
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Yea, what a bastard I am. How dare I expect people to work a little harder to get out of debt.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 11:14 AM
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A 2nd job? When people are struggling to get first ones? And at a time when Bush gave tax breaks to companies for NOT HIRING AMERICANS! Bush and the GOP have gone back to the 1800's where the super wealthy owned slaves! Except this time the slaves are in China and India and Mexico and Africa, not America! How anyone can say we just need to give more money to Big Business, more of OUR tax money that they never pay?



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 11:15 AM
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What city are you located in?

I guarantee I can find you 5 jobs within 5 minutes of your response.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 11:17 AM
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Originally posted by Constitutional Scholar
How have you personally been victimized by the corruption?


You don't need to know. All of us pay in one form or another.



Have those specific laws that were violated in regards to the war?


Gimme a break. Yeah I do... read any of the billions of articles written on the subject. Please don't tell me you're one of the handful of people remaining who think the war is legal and justified. Now what was that you said earlier about staying on topic?

[edit on 15-10-2008 by mecheng]



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by Constitutional Scholar
reply to post by ATruGod
 


YOU signed the contract under the different terms dictating a different payment.

YOU agreed to pay an extra $250 more per month.

YOU knew in advance it was going to be more expensive than you originally planned on, yet YOU signed anyways.


Why not go buy a Lamborghini? Since the payments mean nothing to you anyways, buy it, then whine some more that you should get to keep it even though you cannot pay for it.


They told me all of this the day I went in to sign the paperwork and get the house.

I had already imposed on people for 3 weeks (along with hotels till the cash ran out) through the christmas holiday. Why, becuase come to find out after the fact the banks policy was to not close deals till the end of the month.

They changed the deal in the last minute and you would still put this off on me? People like you are the reason this world sucks so bad.

I bust my a$$ I worked 6 days a week (till last week) i actually do other things to make money to make the payments and you'd still blame me because these crooks changed the deal when they knew I had no other recourse.

And then you liken it to me buying an unnessecary sports car. Wow how inhuman are you?



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 11:19 AM
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So you have no substantiating evidence other than "I've been screwed!!!!"

You made the comment the war is illegal. The burden of proving it lies on your shoulders.

Of course, you could always stop getting your opinions from sites like DU,or alternet.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 11:21 AM
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I don't know but the way I see it. If you make 90% of the countries take home income, you need to pay 90% of the country's income tax. Not the other way around. he's not for redistribution of wealth. he's for the super rich elite pulling their weight and not screwing over the people who can't afford a slick CPA.

Part of my living is made from doing income taxes. Especially schedule K's (llp's,llc's,)
I can tell you that they do get away with writing everything off. they don't pay their full share of taxes. And they get pouty when they do have to pay their fair share. trust me these uber rich want to take and not give back. it's not fair in their mind that they are bound by the rules of everybody else. after all they are rich and that makes them special. rich people throw temper tantrums when they have to pay their full share of taxes. Obama is just trying to correct that and make them pick up the slack and do their fair share for the country.

I know you can come up with all sorts of stats that say the rich pay allllllll the taxes and the working man doesn't but that's in theory and on paper. in real life though it doesn't work that way.

how do you think they get to keep all of their money. by abusing slick loopholes that allow them to defer taxes nearly forever. Obama is trying to close those loopholes. time for most rich people to make their money honestly.

Yeah I said it. make their fortune honestly. Awe too bad. party's over.

Of course there are exceptions to every rule and if you are one of them than good. you have a clean conscious. thank you for doing your fair share if you are one of the few rich that are part of the exception to the rule.

PS. I also agree that if you are in debt taking on extra work will help one get out of some debt. Hell I work in three different fields to keep all my ends meet. but sometimes that works only in theory too. There is such think as a debt slave. it's more the norm now than not. deregulation has lead to the banking system turning into legal loan sharks. so much so that the mafia is getting jealous. recently the GAO came out with a report where they basically stated that those working in the banking industry would be technically felons if they tried what they did in any other REGULATED industry. they even siad that what they are doing is pretty much criminal except for the fact that some moron decided to deregulate the banking industry. Obama is simply trying to correct this.

The real problem is that we have gone from a country whos motto was e pluribus, unum. out of many, one. meaning that although as a country we are all unique individuals with individual freedoms we all come to gether to form a common good a thing called the UNITED states of america. A common vision and goal. now it's e pluribus, pluribus. out of many, many. meaning we are all out there for ourselves, screw community, screw the other man, screw any common vision or UNITY, it's all about meeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!

[edit on 15-10-2008 by BASSPLYR]



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 11:23 AM
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The burden of proof was for Bush to show unequivocally that Saddam had WMD's... Bush didn't... and we all know how that turned out.

You have to quit listening to the MSM and what Bush tells you all the time.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 11:24 AM
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exactly. thanks.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 11:25 AM
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What specific laws were broken?

Can you post them or not?



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 11:26 AM
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Yet you still signed the contract.

Perhaps you should have been more responsible and not put all your eggs in one basket until you actually signed the contract huh?

terms change, that is the nature of financing. Dont like it? Dont buy.

You can post all of the excuses in the world, yet the bottom line is YOU still signed a contract.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 11:31 AM
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Originally posted by Constitutional Scholar
reply to post by ATruGod
 


Yet you still signed the contract.

Perhaps you should have been more responsible and not put all your eggs in one basket until you actually signed the contract huh?

terms change, that is the nature of financing. Dont like it? Dont buy.

You can post all of the excuses in the world, yet the bottom line is YOU still signed a contract.


All I have left to say on this is, with your attitude you must be one of the crooked bankers.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 11:33 AM
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Nope, just a small business owner.

with your attitude, I am not surprised you have no job. You are irresponsible. You refuse to accept blame for your own actions, and instead blame others.

You cannot change the fact that YOU still signed the contract. Your fault.




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